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2014-15 College Football Part II: SEC vs World

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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Tom Brady was a 6th Round draft pick. John Randle wasn't even drafted in a 12 round draft. Is the NFL draft meaningless?
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No, that just shows that there are misses even when you add in the additional data and much greater visability provided by a college career. If there is that much inaccuracy at that level, it has to be multiplied many times over at the High School level.
 
bigblue_dl said:
No, that just shows that there are misses even when you add in the additional data and much greater visability provided by a college career. If there is that much inaccuracy at that level, it has to be multiplied many times over at the High School level.
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I disagree. The odds of a four or five star recruit excelling in college football are significantly higher than that of a two or three star recruit. The same idea applies to the NFL draft. A first or second round pick is significantly more likely to excel in the NFL compared with late round or undrafted players.
 
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In the first round last year (2014), of the 32 players picked 17 were 4 or 5 star recruits and 15 were 2 or 3 star recruits. Seems like a pretty even split. Percentage wise, more 4 and 5 stars succeed, because there are less of them total. But just as many 2 and 3 star ranked players do succeed.
 
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Since drafting doesn't matter the league should just randomly assign players to each team.

The team could tell the league their positions of need in order of importance, but have no other say in the process.
 
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bronconick said:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...96710/nfl-draft-recruits-five-stars-two-stars
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I enjoyed this...

Four- and five-star recruits were 995 percent more likely to be drafted in the first round than their lesser-ranked counterparts.
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995 Percent!

Also, in looking at the Pro Football Hall of Fame...

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/general/draft/round.aspx

104 members were 1st Round Draft Picks (46.84%)
32 members were 2nd Round Draft Picks (14.41%)
21 members were 3rd Round Draft Picks (9.46%)
8 members were 4th Round Draft Picks
6 members were 5th Round Draft Picks
1 member was a 6th Round Draft Pick
9 members were 7th Round Draft Picks
3 members were 8th Round Draft Picks
5 members were 9th Round Draft Picks
2 members were 10th Round Draft Picks
1 member was an 11th Round Draft Pick
2 members were 12th Round Draft Picks
1 member was a 13th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 14th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 15th Round Draft Pick
2 members were 17th Round Draft Picks
1 member was an 18th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 19th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 20th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 21st Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 27th Round Draft Pick
18 members were either a "special" selection or not drafted.

In other words, 157 members of the Hall of Fame (70.72%) were drafted in the first three rounds. 65 members were drafted after the fourth round, or not at all.

MavHockey14 said:
Would you rather have 15 first round picks or 15 6th round picks?
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Exactly.

Nobody is saying that every 4 or 5 star recruit is going to be a hall of famer. However, to ignore the evidence that those players are usually far more successful and say that Rankings are meaningless is simply being willfully ignorant of clear data to the contrary. Rankings are not a perfect measure, but historically, they have done a pretty good job.

Congrats to all those teams with good recruiting classes...I was quite pleased to see Clemson finish with a top 5 class. Not so coincidentally, Clemson's rise back to prominence also coincided with the Tigers' recruiting classes being higher ranked.
 
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Makes sense. There are hidden gems amongst the lesser recruited players, and some coaches have a knack for finding them. But there's a reason that for the most part the teams that get the highest rated recruits have the most success.
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I enjoyed this...



995 Percent!

Also, in looking at the Pro Football Hall of Fame...

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/general/draft/round.aspx

104 members were 1st Round Draft Picks (46.84%)
32 members were 2nd Round Draft Picks (14.41%)
21 members were 3rd Round Draft Picks (9.46%)
8 members were 4th Round Draft Picks
6 members were 5th Round Draft Picks
1 member was a 6th Round Draft Pick
9 members were 7th Round Draft Picks
3 members were 8th Round Draft Picks
5 members were 9th Round Draft Picks
2 members were 10th Round Draft Picks
1 member was an 11th Round Draft Pick
2 members were 12th Round Draft Picks
1 member was a 13th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 14th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 15th Round Draft Pick
2 members were 17th Round Draft Picks
1 member was an 18th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 19th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 20th Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 21st Round Draft Pick
1 member was a 27th Round Draft Pick
18 members were either a "special" selection or not drafted.

In other words, 157 members of the Hall of Fame (70.72%) were drafted in the first three rounds. 65 members were drafted after the fourth round, or not at all.



Exactly.

Nobody is saying that every 4 or 5 star recruit is going to be a hall of famer. However, to ignore the evidence that those players are usually far more successful and say that Rankings are meaningless is simply being willfully ignorant of clear data to the contrary. Rankings are not a perfect measure, but historically, they have done a pretty good job.

Congrats to all those teams with good recruiting classes...I was quite pleased to see Clemson finish with a top 5 class. Not so coincidentally, Clemson's rise back to prominence also coincided with the Tigers' recruiting classes being higher ranked.
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I'm more impressed that Clemson got 15-16 early entrants. Getting guys in for spring practice is awesome.
 
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I thought I recently read something that the super bowl was more than half two star recruits this year.
 
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Need to brag a little about my Idaho Vandals- they are going to honor a scholarship of a player who may not be able to play a down due to recently being diagnosed with cancer.

Idaho is one of the bottom teams in the country, and can really use the scholarship to get players. Instead they support the player who committed to them a while ago.

Here's one story from a local Spokane paper- http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/feb/06/west-valleys-jace-malek-signs-with-vandals-but/

I saw it on ESPN this morning when they interviewed him live, and Vandal Alumni Mark Schlereth got quite into the interview, too.

Go Vandals!
 
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