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2012 Elections Part I: All Politics is Yokel

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Handyman said:
The best part is Romney is going to have to run away from the fact that his program made Mass pretty much the healthiest state in the union.
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Not quite. MA has been in the top 10 healthiest states since 1992 (11th & 12th the two prior years). They've been a healthy state long before Rommneycare came into effect. Probably the most important factors in which states are the healthiest or sickest is not what type of insurance programs the state has but the number of physicians per population. Eight of the top ten healthiest states are in the top ten of physicians per capita (ID & UT being the exceptions). However, half of the sickest ten states are also in the bottom ten in physicians per capita and only two states, TN & LA, are in the top half in number of docs.
 
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5mn_Major said:
So the debates start yet? My CNN isn't working. Any fun yet?
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HuffPo was all over it: :rolleyes:

Following the second debate during this election cycle, the Huffington Post's Sam Stein actually wrote an article about Mitt Romney having knowledge of a hockey game going on at the same time Republican presidential candidates were swapping jabs, and whether that may have violated the rules:

"It was, in the end, a minor bit of political pandering in a debate that featured its fair share. But when former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney announced to the New Hampshire crowd on Monday night that the Boston Bruins (a favorite in the Granite State) had jumped to a 4-0 lead in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals, eyebrows were raised.

How, after all, had Romney found out about the score while onstage with his fellow Republican candidates for president?"
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SteveP said:
HuffPo was all over it: :rolleyes:
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It was a very serious debate. Candidates had to answer the tough questions like iPhone or Blackberry, paper or plastic, Coke or Pepsi, McDonald's or Burger King, Greedo or Han Solo? I am sorry I watched hockey instead of the debate. No, wait. I'm not.

But I'm glad the Echo Chamber media were there to defend the candidates from the vicious liberal media.
 
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In this edition of Republican Primaries: the Race to the Bottom, a graphical illustration of TPaw's (presumably posturing) proposal.

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Non-starters like this are important in moving the Overton window of what is considered within the bounds of discussion. A liberal equivalent would be suggesting a return to the highest marginal rates in history -- a Sanders or Kucinich type should absolutely be campaigning for a 1955 tax structure as a counterweight.

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TPaw's in Gingrich land. Done. He wimped out on stage in the debate and is getting crucified for it in every article that has been written since. He was even asked on a talk show how he felt about losing the debate.
 
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I have to vote for Obama since he says nice things, you know, the things people want to hear. However, his record shows he is a white-chocolate G W Bush. Go Patriot Act! Unemployment 9.5%. Gas ~3.80 per gallon. Escalation in Afghanistan. Continues presence in Iraq. Race baiting administration. Whaffle House with Libya, ignore Egypt. Suadi's squash an uprising - he remains silent. What happened to the transparency of the new White House and Administration?! All Obama lies - are you going to be fooled again?!

"It is the economy, stupid!" where is the liberal outrage?! Oh, that only applies when a (R) is in the White House.

LOL :D

Maybe Obie can get the votes if he amnesties the illegals in the US. Republican are not against immigrants, we are against illegal aliens - you know, the guys who commit the crimes us rich white guys do not want to commit. :P
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
TPaw's in Gingrich land. Done. He wimped out on stage in the debate and is getting crucified for it in every article that has been written since. He was even asked on a talk show how he felt about losing the debate.
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It's June, and the rest of the field looks self-destructive. All he has to do is stay in it, raise money, and let others expend their intra-party good will taking down Romney. Huntsmen is well to his left so he's protected from nimrod attacks. You can't, of course, be too far right in the GOP primary. I think he's fine for now.
 
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Kepler said:
It's June, and the rest of the field looks self-destructive. All he has to do is stay in it, raise money, and let others expend their intra-party good will taking down Romney. Huntsmen is well to his left so he's protected from nimrod attacks. You can't, of course, be too far right in the GOP primary. I think he's fine for now.
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Wimps don't get elected President.
Prodded by moderator John King, of CNN, to repeat his Obamneycare barb, Pawlenty steadfastly refused, insisting his target when coining the phrase was Obama, not Romney. King pointed out that Romney was standing just a few feet away, so why not say it? Pawlenty again refused.

And oh how he’s suffered for it.

"Pawlenty of Nothing" shrieked one headline on the Wall Street Journal’s website.

One Republican strategist questioned his manhood, saying debates were for "alpha dogs." Another asked how Pawlenty could possibly be trusted to go head-to-head with Obama in 2012 if he’s too chicken to take on Romney.

Others wondered if the two camps had perhaps struck some overnight deal that would see Pawlenty become Romney’s running mate if the frontrunner wins the nomination.
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http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/1248749.html
 
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I'd actually prefer the guy with the launch codes not have a tough guy knuckledragger machismo born of deep sexual insecurities.

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Kepler

Liked the graphs. But the deductions and other "goodies" (income averaging, for example) in the tax code prior to 1981 pretty much lowered the "true" rate. If we get rid of the current "goodies" and lower the rates a bit, the tax code may actually reflect raising revenue for Uncle Sam vs. social engineering.
 
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joecct said:
Kepler

Liked the graphs. But the deductions and other "goodies" (income averaging, for example) in the tax code prior to 1981 pretty much lowered the "true" rate. If we get rid of the current "goodies" and lower the rates a bit, the tax code may actually reflect raising revenue for Uncle Sam vs. social engineering.
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On the latter, every tax code promotes a particular view, just like any legal code -- they are all "social engineering."
 
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It would be nice to get Robert Reich contributing in some way.


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fritz said:
It would be nice to get Robert Reich contributing in some way.


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No matter what he or Elizabeth Warren say it never will get any traction with the average Tea Party voter (or anyone who identifies themselves as right wing or conservative). Somehow the ones with power to change the laws as he pointed out in this video have the power to create a vast grass roots movement out of average Americans that go against their very interests.

That's why I anticipate US Bankruptcy to be inevitable.


Tim Pawlenty, Herman Cain, John Huntsman, and Rick Santorum are all losing to Palin and Guiliani in NH.

Overall, Romney leads the GOP field with 42% of the vote, followed by Paul and Bachmann at 10% each. Sarah Palin got 7% and Rudy Giuliani earned 6%; both are still trying to decide whether to enter the 2012 race.

Tim Pawlenty received 5% in the poll, followed by Newt Gingrich with 4%, Herman Cain and Jon Huntsman with 3% each, and Rick Santorum at 2%.
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http://content.usatoday.com/communi...le-bachmann-new-hampshire-poll-mitt-romney-/1
 
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