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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Buddha on a bratwurst, I did not expect another Santorum spurt.
RCP has Romney third in both states. The people have spoken. Well, they've emitted guttural noises and threatening gestures.
Buddha on a bratwurst, I did not expect another Santorum spurt.
RCP has Romney third in both states. The people have spoken. Well, they've emitted guttural noises and threatening gestures.
Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
How about an even funnier thought...the evangelicals all end up voting FOR Obama?
Counter-intuitive, but if Mitt wins, they're stuck with him as the face of the party for 4 years AND they're stuck running with him in 2016. If Obama wins, they're stuck with him for 4 more years, but at least they're off the hook and can regroup around someone else in time for 2016.
3) Lastly, its high time the media once again follows my brilliant commentaryand asks this question: will hard core Evangelics come out for Romney in the general election? I say not all of them. Too much groupthink is going around the idea that hatred for Obama will drive GOP turnout. I counter with this - what would happen if a Scientologist or a Buddhist was the GOP nominee? Would hard core Christians come out in their usual #s? Probably not, and one has to wonder if Romney's religion is going to lose him a critical 2-3% points in the Floridas and Virginias of the country as these people vote for Senate and the House but skip the Prez race.
How about an even funnier thought...the evangelicals all end up voting FOR Obama?
Counter-intuitive, but if Mitt wins, they're stuck with him as the face of the party for 4 years AND they're stuck running with him in 2016. If Obama wins, they're stuck with him for 4 more years, but at least they're off the hook and can regroup around someone else in time for 2016.
Foxton
Banned
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
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At least Santorum can sound halfway sane.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Saw Game Change last night. What you think of it as a whole will probably just come down to your political allegiance, but that aside many of the performances (Moore, Paulson, and I can't believe I'm writing this but Harrelson) were excellent.
It was also nice to see Peter from Office Space again. That bastard hasn't aged a day in ten years.
Saw Game Change last night. What you think of it as a whole will probably just come down to your political allegiance, but that aside many of the performances (Moore, Paulson, and I can't believe I'm writing this but Harrelson) were excellent.
It was also nice to see Peter from Office Space again. That bastard hasn't aged a day in ten years.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Seems pretty clear based on the numbers I heard last night that Romney cannot lock up enough delegates now even if he wins every winner take all state that is left. He's running Hillary's '08 campaign and it's blowing up in his face.
This is going to be fun.
Seems pretty clear based on the numbers I heard last night that Romney cannot lock up enough delegates now even if he wins every winner take all state that is left. He's running Hillary's '08 campaign and it's blowing up in his face.
This is going to be fun.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Not saying he might not lock it up, but "cannot" lock it up seems way too strong.
And why the hell is Mississippi MS, which is ambiguous, and not MP, which is not? Is there some Marshall Island that stole MP or something?
Edit: yes. Because the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands would naturally be abbreviated MP.
That has to be based on an extrapolation of current percentages (which is doubtful). Last I read Romney was above the trend line to hit the delegate mark, and I doubt AL/MS changed anything.
Not saying he might not lock it up, but "cannot" lock it up seems way too strong.
And why the hell is Mississippi MS, which is ambiguous, and not MP, which is not? Is there some Marshall Island that stole MP or something?
Edit: yes. Because the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands would naturally be abbreviated MP.
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Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
I think Romney gets close enough that Paul's delegates put him over the top. Ron Paul is both a fraud and an opportunist, so in exchange for a prime time speaking slot I'm sure he'll have no problem backing The Mittster despite allegedly not agreeing with him on any subject (although strangely not running any ads against him). This is sure to leave Santorum and Newt seething, but that's the breaks.
The problem with the anti-Mittens crowd is that they have different goals. Gingrich just wants to screw Romney and will keep this going for that purpose. Santorum I'm sure can "do the math" as Romney's annoying spokesman keeps saying. However, he surely also realizes that by amassing more and more delegates, he sets himself up as both the True Conservative and Next In Line for 2016 should Romney lose the general election. He also builds up goodwill with voters who can't stand Romney but want a chance to cast a vote for someone else (think Texas, where the race ought to pretty much be decided but will probably have a contested primary if Santorum sticks around).
Regardless, I doubt Romney expected to still be slugging it out at this point.
I think Romney gets close enough that Paul's delegates put him over the top. Ron Paul is both a fraud and an opportunist, so in exchange for a prime time speaking slot I'm sure he'll have no problem backing The Mittster despite allegedly not agreeing with him on any subject (although strangely not running any ads against him). This is sure to leave Santorum and Newt seething, but that's the breaks.
The problem with the anti-Mittens crowd is that they have different goals. Gingrich just wants to screw Romney and will keep this going for that purpose. Santorum I'm sure can "do the math" as Romney's annoying spokesman keeps saying. However, he surely also realizes that by amassing more and more delegates, he sets himself up as both the True Conservative and Next In Line for 2016 should Romney lose the general election. He also builds up goodwill with voters who can't stand Romney but want a chance to cast a vote for someone else (think Texas, where the race ought to pretty much be decided but will probably have a contested primary if Santorum sticks around).
Regardless, I doubt Romney expected to still be slugging it out at this point.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
You know no matter how much you repeat this, it's still just an opinion, right?
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
You can't help but chuckle that assuming that Romney does get to 1144, the vast majority of his delegates and wins will come from states that are either heavily Democratic or states where Obama will be very competitive. The only red states he's won so far have been Arizona, Idaho and Wyoming.
You can't help but chuckle that assuming that Romney does get to 1144, the vast majority of his delegates and wins will come from states that are either heavily Democratic or states where Obama will be very competitive. The only red states he's won so far have been Arizona, Idaho and Wyoming.
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Would it be better for the GOP to nominate someone with no appeal outside states that the GOP would win anyway?
Anyway, this is fantastic. The dream of a Santorum nomination is a wee bit closer to reality this morning. Excellent.
Would it be better for the GOP to nominate someone with no appeal outside states that the GOP would win anyway?
Anyway, this is fantastic. The dream of a Santorum nomination is a wee bit closer to reality this morning. Excellent.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
It's more the fact that they're talking about New York and California being his ultimate stopgap.
Those states aren't voting for him in November.
It's more the fact that they're talking about New York and California being his ultimate stopgap.
Those states aren't voting for him in November.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Newt is feeding his ego, selling merchandise, and moving up the depth chart for his new show, Fox & Fiends.
I wonder if the Frothmeister is trying to force Mittens' hand for the VP slot. It helps that there is zero overlap among their supporters. The Norquist types won't like that ticket, but they'll back it for fear that the Dems get credit for saving the country from a Republican-Bankster Depression again. Last time that happened the Dems held the House for fifty years.
Given the nullity of Romney's groundgame (well, the nullity of Mitt's entire Being), I shudder to think what the ad saturation will look like in battlegrounds this fall.
This will be the first election in my voting lifetime where it's the Dem who runs badass defense policy ads and paints the Republican as a clueless milquetoast. That will make for an interesting change of pace.
Newt is feeding his ego, selling merchandise, and moving up the depth chart for his new show, Fox & Fiends.
I wonder if the Frothmeister is trying to force Mittens' hand for the VP slot. It helps that there is zero overlap among their supporters. The Norquist types won't like that ticket, but they'll back it for fear that the Dems get credit for saving the country from a Republican-Bankster Depression again. Last time that happened the Dems held the House for fifty years.
Given the nullity of Romney's groundgame (well, the nullity of Mitt's entire Being), I shudder to think what the ad saturation will look like in battlegrounds this fall.
This will be the first election in my voting lifetime where it's the Dem who runs badass defense policy ads and paints the Republican as a clueless milquetoast. That will make for an interesting change of pace.
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Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
Ah yes, the 80's and specifically the Duke campaign. A time all conservatives would like to go back to.
In some regards Romney is in the same position as McCain with the states he's winning for the nomination being out of play in the general as some of you as mentoined. Difference is the war hero aura that Mittens is falling a wee bit short on.
Oh and yes it is my opinion that Ron Paul is a fraud and a sleazeball. I submit as Exhibit A the Klanspeak newsletter he made a million bucks off of.
Ah yes, the 80's and specifically the Duke campaign. A time all conservatives would like to go back to.
In some regards Romney is in the same position as McCain with the states he's winning for the nomination being out of play in the general as some of you as mentoined. Difference is the war hero aura that Mittens is falling a wee bit short on.
Oh and yes it is my opinion that Ron Paul is a fraud and a sleazeball. I submit as Exhibit A the Klanspeak newsletter he made a million bucks off of.
leswp1
New member
Re: 2012 Elections in 3-D!
No, no, no- you have it all wrong. The gubmint can mess with your personal life, just not with corporations and guns and stuff. It is their job to reclaim the Christian idenitity of the country and stop all the immoral behaviors. (those poor Theist founding fathers may have drilled allthe way to China by now...)
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