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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Of course they are.
Romney wins the debate again. I don't see how he's any different than John Kerry, just flops more to the other side is all.
Of course they are.
Romney wins the debate again. I don't see how he's any different than John Kerry, just flops more to the other side is all.
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Surprised at how bad a candidate Perry is. Not sure I remember a time when a candidate with so much going for him self destructed this bad. Michelle Bachmann was never going to win the nomination. Neither was Cain. Perry though had more than even odds going in, and he's single handedly killed his chances. Memo to Rick: We just got done with a Texas dumb @ ss in the White House, and it was a disaster. We really don't need another one. Remember those bumper stickers with Bush II's picture and the caption "Miss Me Yet?". With Perry's implosion, I think the answer to that question is an emphatic NO.
The Mittster could be the most unliked nominee by his own party that I've ever seen. Even with Kerry it wasn't so much you didn't like the guy but that he was bland and uninspiring (and a little clueless). From the base's perspective, Romney is from the wrong part of the country, the wrong religion, is a conventional politician when people are looking for a rebel, and is on tape taking positions on issues directly opposite of the party just a few short years ago. Styling his hair like Ronald Reagan isn't going to overcome all of that.
Surprised at how bad a candidate Perry is. Not sure I remember a time when a candidate with so much going for him self destructed this bad. Michelle Bachmann was never going to win the nomination. Neither was Cain. Perry though had more than even odds going in, and he's single handedly killed his chances. Memo to Rick: We just got done with a Texas dumb @ ss in the White House, and it was a disaster. We really don't need another one. Remember those bumper stickers with Bush II's picture and the caption "Miss Me Yet?". With Perry's implosion, I think the answer to that question is an emphatic NO.
The Mittster could be the most unliked nominee by his own party that I've ever seen. Even with Kerry it wasn't so much you didn't like the guy but that he was bland and uninspiring (and a little clueless). From the base's perspective, Romney is from the wrong part of the country, the wrong religion, is a conventional politician when people are looking for a rebel, and is on tape taking positions on issues directly opposite of the party just a few short years ago. Styling his hair like Ronald Reagan isn't going to overcome all of that.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
The only winner of this series of debates was Obama.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
I was thinking of it as a tactical issue to put on ballots to increase the turnout of their fringe. The GOP used gay marriage like that in 2004 in states where there wasn't a chance in heck that it was ever going to be legalized, to inflame the sore and push their numbers in elections that were close. If Romney is the nominee they are going to need something to pull their base to the polls.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Perry was so far out ahead on his last election his camp refused to even have debates with the Democratic challenger. That whole "not having to campaign in the last 5 years" is coming home to roost.
Perry was so far out ahead on his last election his camp refused to even have debates with the Democratic challenger. That whole "not having to campaign in the last 5 years" is coming home to roost.
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
It took the Texas Toolbox to prove that Soundbyte Sarah was correct about one thing-- WRITE IT ON YOUR HAND!!
Since there will be more debates with these clown car denizens, it's time to give them a theme song.
http://www*.youtube.c*om/watch?v*=q526mSA3T*Rs
It took the Texas Toolbox to prove that Soundbyte Sarah was correct about one thing-- WRITE IT ON YOUR HAND!!
Since there will be more debates with these clown car denizens, it's time to give them a theme song.
http://www*.youtube.c*om/watch?v*=q526mSA3T*Rs
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Lol @ Perry. Not that he had a shot anyway, but this was so gratifying to see.
Romney will get the nomination and get trounced in the general election. He is a lot like Kerry, minus the intelligence and personability.
Lol @ Perry. Not that he had a shot anyway, but this was so gratifying to see.
Romney will get the nomination and get trounced in the general election. He is a lot like Kerry, minus the intelligence and personability.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
I don't know about 'trounced', as I think there are enough POed conservatives who can hold their nose on the Mormon thing and vote just to try and get rid of "The Chosen One", but in a scenario with Romney as the nominee, it's definitely looking like Obama wins again. And to be honest, I don't see much of a difference between the two. Obamney 2012!
I don't know about 'trounced', as I think there are enough POed conservatives who can hold their nose on the Mormon thing and vote just to try and get rid of "The Chosen One", but in a scenario with Romney as the nominee, it's definitely looking like Obama wins again. And to be honest, I don't see much of a difference between the two. Obamney 2012!
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
It's cute that you attribute a GOP nominee's chances to racism and illiteracy rather than - oh, I don't know - a ****ty economy.
People would vote for an inanimate carbon rod if they believed it would improve their job prospects.
It's cute that you attribute a GOP nominee's chances to racism and illiteracy rather than - oh, I don't know - a ****ty economy.
People would vote for an inanimate carbon rod if they believed it would improve their job prospects.
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
If McCain can get 47% of the vote in 2008 with a lousy running mate, *any* Republican has a decent shot in 2012.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
TimP has always been one of the true losers on this board. I can't recall a single of his posts in the politics threads that don't accuse someone of being a racist. Usually because they don't vote Democrat.
TimP has always been one of the true losers on this board. I can't recall a single of his posts in the politics threads that don't accuse someone of being a racist. Usually because they don't vote Democrat.
P
Priceless
Guest
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
If that was true, all the GOP candidates would poll better than Obama in the Swing States. Only Romney manages that. So people seem to think sticking with Obama will mean better job prospects than handing the economy over to any of the loons the GOP is running.
In the states where the racism vote carries weight, the Democratic candidate doesn't stand a chance anyway.
If that was true, all the GOP candidates would poll better than Obama in the Swing States. Only Romney manages that. So people seem to think sticking with Obama will mean better job prospects than handing the economy over to any of the loons the GOP is running.
In the states where the racism vote carries weight, the Democratic candidate doesn't stand a chance anyway.
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Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
It's because the only possible reason someone would vote for a GOP candidate is because they're a filthy racist. duh. It was also proven recently (I forget the columnist, sorry) that a supporter of Herman Cain has to be a racist, because he's black, or something.
I don't think I can cast a vote for either major party. Politics has no remaining dignity. You're either a racist redneck, or a "libtard".
It's because the only possible reason someone would vote for a GOP candidate is because they're a filthy racist. duh. It was also proven recently (I forget the columnist, sorry) that a supporter of Herman Cain has to be a racist, because he's black, or something.
I don't think I can cast a vote for either major party. Politics has no remaining dignity. You're either a racist redneck, or a "libtard".
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Not necessarily. With all these pointless GOP debates, many of the candidates gain a great deal of (negative) exposure. If the unemployment situation remains as-is through next November, whoever becomes the GOP nominee will be - at worst from the GOP's perspective - in a likely dead heat with Obama. When the economy isn't performing well, it tends to trump every other issue. To put it another way: Clinton (who was elected due to a combination of Perot taking votes from Bush and the US recovering from a recession) wasn't exactly the presumptive nominee/frontrunner early in the primary process in '91-'92, and I am guessing that at this point in 1991, nobody thought Bush would lose his re-election bid (Obama's approval ratings are < 50% which generally spells trouble for an incumbent president).
That will almost certainly change once the debates involve him (as opposed to just the GOP candidates arguing amongst themselves).
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One note though. Obama gets the nod even in a medeocre economy. He connects with people, he's largely a known quantity and even with the economy down...his decision making has been pretty solid (he did rescue this country from a total meltdown...can he now get the budget in order?).
This is evidenced is shown in public opinion. Opinion says the economy is horrible. Obama's public approval is bad but much better than that of the economy...and indeed, he doesn't get much blame for the situation. His approval is vastly better than congress. Indeed, even with the baggage...he's only a bit behind a generic Republican (which usually is a best case Republican). And against the top Republican prospect, Romney, he's at worst in a deadheat. Even then, much of Romney's support is coming from the NE USA...where Obama will likely sweep anyways. And in polls numbers, he is trouncing every other GOP candidate.
So future prospects? Economic numbers seem a bit better than we expected this summer (note the run up in the stock market). So prospects of a double dip are down. Likewise when Obama gets in front of people...he's only likely to remind everyone of the leadership characteristics that won him huge support in 2008 (while not being saddled with questions in some quarters about electing a black president for the first time).
One note though. Obama gets the nod even in a medeocre economy. He connects with people, he's largely a known quantity and even with the economy down...his decision making has been pretty solid (he did rescue this country from a total meltdown...can he now get the budget in order?).
This is evidenced is shown in public opinion. Opinion says the economy is horrible. Obama's public approval is bad but much better than that of the economy...and indeed, he doesn't get much blame for the situation. His approval is vastly better than congress. Indeed, even with the baggage...he's only a bit behind a generic Republican (which usually is a best case Republican). And against the top Republican prospect, Romney, he's at worst in a deadheat. Even then, much of Romney's support is coming from the NE USA...where Obama will likely sweep anyways. And in polls numbers, he is trouncing every other GOP candidate.
So future prospects? Economic numbers seem a bit better than we expected this summer (note the run up in the stock market). So prospects of a double dip are down. Likewise when Obama gets in front of people...he's only likely to remind everyone of the leadership characteristics that won him huge support in 2008 (while not being saddled with questions in some quarters about electing a black president for the first time).
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busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
The Kool-Aid seems a little strong this AM
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
What's your point...that Obama is done? Go on believing that.
What's your point...that Obama is done? Go on believing that.
leswp1
Well-known member
Re: 2012 Elections: Corndogs for everyone!
Listening to the radio the other day and heard something that I wondered why it hasn't become the battle cry for the Dems. The caller was frustrated with Brown (Mass) who he had voted for and felt wasn't getting it done/not actively pushing for anything even tho the Reps were in a strong position. Not going to be able to get it exactly right but something like this- If people were wondering what we would get when we had the GOP we were looking at it. That many of the non-actions regarding things were what the GOP espoused- they don't want bigger gov't to intervene and altho they said they were going to be better we were watching the exact policies they want.
The program was one where they had one person from each party to address current issues making points about what policies were being promoted, who was trying to act, etc. The guy called in disgusted and very eloquent. After listening to discourses on either side it was succinct and the way he said it was very convincing. He was POd that the GOP was bankrupt, he didn't want no gov't he wanted intelligent govt yaddah, yaddah, yaddah.
Listening to the radio the other day and heard something that I wondered why it hasn't become the battle cry for the Dems. The caller was frustrated with Brown (Mass) who he had voted for and felt wasn't getting it done/not actively pushing for anything even tho the Reps were in a strong position. Not going to be able to get it exactly right but something like this- If people were wondering what we would get when we had the GOP we were looking at it. That many of the non-actions regarding things were what the GOP espoused- they don't want bigger gov't to intervene and altho they said they were going to be better we were watching the exact policies they want.
The program was one where they had one person from each party to address current issues making points about what policies were being promoted, who was trying to act, etc. The guy called in disgusted and very eloquent. After listening to discourses on either side it was succinct and the way he said it was very convincing. He was POd that the GOP was bankrupt, he didn't want no gov't he wanted intelligent govt yaddah, yaddah, yaddah.
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