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2012 D2 Football thread: Every day I'm shuffling!!!

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UMD beat a strong Augustana team last Saturday, and that is certainly something to be happy about. While I am also happy that we came out strong, having a great first half and a terrible second half leaves a taste in my that is worse than when we are close at half and pull away in the second. We still haven't played a complete defensive game this year, but this is the first time we were soundly beaten on the scoreboard in one half or the other. Hopefully this is one of those "non-losing wake-up calls" that proves that we can't ease-up after taking a big lead.

On the ride home I heard the announcer say that we thought it would take 5-6 weeks to truly get the defense settled with the new players and coaches, and I think he might be right. The defense has shown that it can play very well, it just need to continue to work out the kink, and I think we have the talent to do that. I have a good feeling that the defense will look much better by the end of the season.
 
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Still going to be pretty nervous about todays game up in Houghton.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Tech could've won this game - that first half was just awful, and sunk them.
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The air just goes out of Grand Valley this year when they start subbing guys up late. They're so beat up right now that they're not really twos, they're more like threes, and it shows. They let a 31 point lead get salted away until Tech just needed a TD and a two point conversion to tie the game up in Copper Country with NFL replacement refs doing the game. :p

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I told you stop sandbagging, you moron. :p
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So now can I start sandbagging for Ferris at GVSU next week?? :p
 
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First Time said:
Holy ****.
Huskies down 28-10 at the half, come back and beat UMD on the final play 51-49.
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Holy poop, they claim The Man Title Belt.

Going from the Delaware championship in 1979.

Delaware lost to Northern Michigan 7-22 on 10-18-80.
NMU lost to Eastern Illinois 28-35 on 11-08-80.
EIU lost to California Poly-SLO 13-21 on 12-13-80.
Cal Poly-SLO lost to Cal Poly-Pomona 35-21 on 09-26-81.
Cal Poly-Pomona lost to Cal-Davis 19-7 on 10-03-81.
Cal-Davis lost to Humboldt State 20-18 on 10-10-81.
HSU lost to Chico State 26-7 on 10-31-81.
Chico State lost to Cal-Davis 38-9 on 11-07-81.

Cal-Davis failed to make the playoffs in 1981. Texas State, then Southwest Texas won the Championship in 1981 and thus claiming an Interim The Man belt. Cal-Davis went on to win all their games in 1982, until the championship game, where the belts where unified.

Cal-Davis lost to Texas State, 34-9 on 12-11-82.
Texas State lost to Stephen F. Austin 27-24 on 10-22-83
SFA lost to ACU 24-10 10-29-83
ACU lost to Texas State 54-13 11-12-83
Texas State lost to Central State 24-16 11-26-83
Central State lost to North Dakota State 41-21 12-10-83
NDSU lost it to MSU-Mankato 28-21 on 09-15-84
MSU-Mankato lost it to Northern Colorado 24-22 on 09-22-84
UNC lost it to North Dakota 33-7 on 09-29-84
UND lost it to Nebraska-Omaha 28-3 on 10-20-84
UNO lost it to North Dakota State 25-14 on 12-01-84
NDSU lost it to Troy 18-17 on 12-08-84
Troy lost it to Mississippi College 45-21 on 10-19-85
MC lost it to West Geogia 30-28 on 11-02-85
WGU lost it to Delta State 25-20 on 11-09-85
DSU lost it to Valdosta State 39-20 on 11-16-85
VSU lost it to North Alabama 45-0 on 11-23-85
UNA lost it to NDSU 35-7 on 12-14-85
NDSU lost it to Northern Michigan 10-6 on 09-12-87
NMU lost it to Portland State 13-7 on 12-05-87
Portland lost it to Troy 31-17 on 12-12-87
Troy lost it to Central Florida 26-18 on 09-17-88
CFU lost it to New Haven 31-23 on 10-08-88
New Haven lost it to American International 51-21 on 10-15-88
AIC lost it to Bowie State 16-13 on 10-22-88
Bowie State lost it to Winston-Salem 16-14 on 11-05-88
Winston-Salem lost it to North Carolina Central 31-16 on 11-20-88
NC Central lost it to Sacramento State 56-7 on 11-27-88
Sac St lost it to NDSU 42-20 on 12-03-88
NDSU lost it to St. Cloud State 20-13 on 10-21-89
SCSU lost it to Mississippi College 55-24 on 11-18-89
MC lost it to IUP 27-8 on 12-03-90
IUP lost it to NDSU 51-11 on 12-10-90
NDSU lost it to GVSU 21-17 on 9/14/91
GVSU lost it to Butler 33-0 on 9/21/91
Butler lost it to Ferris State 7-6 on 10/19/91
Ferris State lost it to St Joseph's (IN) 16-10 on 11/9/91

St. Joseph's did not make the playoffs in 1991. Interim title of the Man goes to Pittsburg State for winning the NC in 1991.

St. Joseph's lost it to Grand Valley State 28-18 on 09-05-92
GVSU lost it to Indiana University (PA) 45-27 on 09-12-92

IUP did not lose to another D2 that year but missed the playoffs. Jacksonville State will claim PSU's Interim title from 91 in 92. Jacksonville leaves D2 that year with the interim belt.

IUP lost it to North Alabama 41-34 on 12-11-93
UNA did not lose to another D2 school until 1996.

UNA lost it to Albany State 17-10 on 08-31-96
Albany St lost it to Miles 29-24 on 09-07-96
Miles lost it to Tuskegee 37-36 on 09-21-96
Tuskegee lost it to Albany State 38-14 on 09-28-96
Albany St lost it to Valdosta State 38-28 on 11-23-96
VSU lost it to Carson-Newman 24-19 on 11-30-96
C-N lost it to Northern Colorado on 12-14-96
Northern Colorado lost it to Western State 14-13 on 9-13-97
Western State lost it to Fort Hays State 28-15 on 10-18-97
Fort Hays State lost it to New Mexico Highlands 35-28 on 10-25-97
NMH lost it to Nebraska-Kearney 49-48 on 11-08-97

UNK did not make the playoffs in 97. Interim Title of The Man goes to Northern Colorado for winning the NC that year.

UNK lost it to Missouri Western 26-23 on 9-5-98
MWSU lost it to Truman St. 41-15 on 9-19-98
Truman lost it to Central Missouri 10-7 on 9-26-98
CMSU lost it to Pittsburg St. 32-14 on 10-15-98
PSU lost it to Northwest Missouri 23-18 on 10-24-08
NWMSU lost to Nebraska-Omaha 40-17 on 9-4-99.
UNO lost to Northern Colorado 43-39 on 10-4-99.
UNC lost to North Dakota 24-16 on 10-16-99.
UND lost to South Dakota State 21-7 on 10-23-99.
SDSU lost to UNO 40-34 on 10-30-99.
UNO lost it to Augustana 31-24 on 11-6-99.
Augustana lost it to UNC 48-32 on 11-13-99.
UNC lost it to NWMSU 41-35 on 11-27-99.
NWMSU lost it to North Dakota State 34-17 on 11-18-00.
NDSU lost it to Delta State 34-16 on 12-2-00.
DSU lost it to Valdosta State 70-12 on 10-6-01.
VSU lost it to Catawba 37-34 on 11-24-01.
Catawba lost it to Grand Valley State 34-16 on 12-1-01.
GVSU lost it to UND 17-14 on 12-8-01.
UND lost it to Central Washington 43-7 on 9-7-02.
CWU lost it to UC Davis 24-6 on 11-23-02
UC Davis lost it to Texas A&M-Kingsville 27-20 on 11-30-02
TAMUK lost it to VSU 21-12 on 12-7-02.
VSU lost it to GVSU 31-24 on 12-14-02.
GVSU lost it to Saginaw Valley State 34-16 on 10-18-03.
SVSU lost it to GVSU 10-3 on 11-29-03.
GVSU lost it to SVSU 31-20 on 10-16-04.
SVSU lost it to Michigan Tech 38-18 on 10-30-04.
MTU lost it to GVSU 24-7 on 11-06-04.
GVSU lost it to UND 19-15 on 11-27-04.
UND lost it to Pittsburg State 31-19 on 12-04-04.
PSU lost it to VSU 36-31 on 12-11-04
VSU lost it to Harding 16-13 on 9-17-05.
Harding lost it to North Alabama 35-6 on 9-24-05.
UNA lost it to Central Arkansas 29-26 on 10-1-05.
UCA lost it to UNA 41-38 on 12-01-05.
UNA lost it to NWMSU 25-24 on 12-08-05.
NWMSU lost it to GVSU 21-17 on 12-15-05.
GVSU lost it to NWMSU 34-16 on 12-8-07.
NWMSU lost it to VSU 25-20 on 12-15-07.
VSU lost it to DSU 27-24 on 10-02-08.
DSU lost it to UNA 55-34 on 11-29-08.
UNA lost it to NWMSU 41-7 on 12-06-08.
NWMSU lost it to Minnesota-Duluth 21-14 on 12-13-08.
UMD lost it to Central Washington 13-10 on 09-03-09.
CWU lost it to NWMSU 21-20 on 11-28-09.
NWMSU lost it to TAMUK 16-7 on 09-02-10.
TAMUK lost it to Abilene Christian 31-24 on 10-02-10.
ACU lost it to Central Missouri 55-41 on 11-27-10.
CMU lost it to NWMSU 37-20 on 12-04-10.
NWMSU lost it to Minnesota-Duluth 17-13 on 12-11-10.
UMD lost it to Wayne State College 7-0 on 9-17-11
WSC lost it to Concordia-St. Paul 27-24 on 10-15-11.
CSP lost it to Winona State 58-24 on 10-22-11.
WSU lost it to UMD 9/08/2010 38-16 on 09-08-12.
UMD lost it to St. Cloud State 51-49 on 09-29-12.


The Interim Title of the Man for 91 thru 96.

PSU won the title 23-6 against Jacksonville State.
PSU lost it to JSU 17-13 on 12-12-92
Jacksonville St. did not lose to another D2 school until 96.
JSU lost it to WGU 30-10 on 09-07-96
WGU lost it to Henderson St. 20-13 on 9-28-96
HSU lost it to DSU 24-0 on 10-05-96
DSU lost it to UNA 27-17 on 10-19-96
UNA lost it to CAU 21-20 on 11-02-96
CAU lost it to VSU 63-30 on 11-09-96
VSU lost it to WGU 42-21 on 11-16-96
WGU lost it to Carson-Newman 41-19 on 11-23-96
CN beat VSU 24-19 on 11-30-96 to Unify the titles.

Interim Title of The Man for 98
Northern Colorado lost it to Nebraska-Omaha 15-3 on 10-24-98
Nebraska-Omaha lost it to Northwest Missouri 28-14 on 11-21-98
NWMSU was the current holder of The Man title, so that game unified the title.

Interim Title of The Man for 2012
Pittsburg State University claimed it against Wayne State University 35 - 21 on 12-17-2011

St. Cloud State University now currently holds the title of "The Man" now. I'm pretty sure I had all of the dates from 1980 to present all filled out, I used this website here.... http://michigan-football.com/ncaa/ncaa_ii.htm and I pretty much used that site from there on to determine "The Man". It does get harder to figure out when teams moved up back then, but usually poking thru their older media guides will give you the dates you need, and you also might fight the info to confirm what division a school was when it played somebody who my have been a holder of the title belt then. If anybody can fill in those missing dates or track it back from an earlier champion, it would be a big help as well. In theory here, all NC winners were the Man, even if it was just an interim title.

I think I've stumbled across another website that will make it much easier to track it down all the way to the orginial "The Man" Louisiana Tech in 1973.
http://cfreference.net/cfr/cfr.s
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UMD's D has been brutal in at least one half of every game this season. IMO, they'll never be great this season, but they've shown signs that they could gel and become a serviceable unit. With how good our O is, serviceable is all we really need. If they continue to play the way they are now, they might not even make the playoffs this season.
 
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HumRsky said:
UMD's D has been brutal in at least one half of every game this season. IMO, they'll never be great this season, but they've shown signs that they could gel and become a serviceable unit. With how good our O is, serviceable is all we really need. If they continue to play the way they are now, they might not even make the playoffs this season.
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You're just going to have to see how they respond to this loss. it might just be the thing that brings focus to the Bulldogs. One loss shouldn't knock you out of the playoff chase, but it does mean you gotta pick up the pace more.
 
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In hindsight, Tech finally showed their youth at QB and on defense tonight. Last year's team would've probably beaten this GV team, and by a wider margin than 2011.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
In hindsight, Tech finally showed their youth at QB and on defense tonight. Last year's team would've probably beaten this GV team, and by a wider margin than 2011.
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Umm.... GVSU snuck out a win against Tech in 2011, 2010 is the last time Tech beat the Lakers.
 
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HumRsky said:
UMD's D has been brutal in at least one half of every game this season. IMO, they'll never be great this season, but they've shown signs that they could gel and become a serviceable unit. With how good our O is, serviceable is all we really need. If they continue to play the way they are now, they might not even make the playoffs this season.
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They looked really good in the first half and then SCSU made adjustments and found out they could throw on UMD and did to the tune of 466 and 5 TD's.
Amazing win and kept our season alive.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
You're just going to have to see how they respond to this loss. it might just be the thing that brings focus to the Bulldogs. One loss shouldn't knock you out of the playoff chase, but it does mean you gotta pick up the pace more.
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For your "The Man" research, if you haven't used the http://cfbdatawarehouse.com, I would look there. Many of the current D2 teams are still in the "incomplete teams" section, but it appears that they still at least have game-by-game results for every team at every 4-year level of college football.

St. Cloud still is my 2nd favorite team when it comes to football, so there is a part of me that's happy they kept their season alive and didn't waste a good crowd.
 
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HumRsky said:
For your "The Man" research, if you haven't used the http://cfbdatawarehouse.com, I would look there. Many of the current D2 teams are still in the "incomplete teams" section, but it appears that they still at least have game-by-game results for every team at every 4-year level of college football.

St. Cloud still is my 2nd favorite team when it comes to football, so there is a part of me that's happy they kept their season alive and didn't waste a good crowd.
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Thanks! The one real sticking point with researching the games back that far is trying to figure out what schools were what division at the time when they were holding the title. Needless to say, its really a mess in the seventies with only one of the 7 champions from there still a D2 school, our very own Northern Michigan. And not only have those schools moved up, a lot of their conferencemates from back then have moved up, or even worse, folded their programs.
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Thanks! The one real sticking point with researching the games back that far is trying to figure out what schools were what division at the time when they were holding the title. Needless to say, its really a mess in the seventies with only one of the 7 champions from there still a D2 school, our very own Northern Michigan. And not only have those schools moved up, a lot of their conferencemates from back then have moved up, or even worse, folded their programs.
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Isn't it a 15 yard penalty for using "Champions" and "NMU Football" in the same sentence :p
 
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RaceBoarder said:
Isn't it a 15 yard penalty for using "Champions" and "NMU Football" in the same sentence :p
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Check the trophy case in the YooperDome. I know its older than myself by 4 years, and I'm turning 33 on Friday, and probably covered in dust, but there is an NCAA Championship trophy in there. It probably hasn't been dusted since they put it in there in that brand new Yooperdome a few years back.

And well, maybe 4 years from now, NMU will be back on a more winning tack.
 
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D2Football.com's Top 25 poll for this week


1 Pittsburg State 4-0 1
2 Grand Valley 5-0 3
3 CSU-Pueblo 5-0 4
4 Missouri Western 5-0 5
5 Minnesota State 5-0 7
6 Winston-Salem 5-0 8
7 New Haven 5-0 9
8 West Alabama 4-1 10
9 Northwest Missouri 4-1 11
10 Bloomsburg 5-0 12
11 Minnesota Duluth 4-1 2
12 Hillsdale 4-1 13
13 West Texas A&M 4-1 15
14 Midwestern State 3-1 14
15 California 4-1 6
16 Saginaw Valley 4-1 17
17 Central Missouri 4-1 18
18 Ashland 5-0 19
19 Ouachita Baptist 4-0 20
20 Shippensburg 5-0 21
21 IUP 4-1 23
22 Washburn 4-1 24
23 Sioux Falls 5-0 25
24 West Chester 4-1 NR
25 Henderson State 5-0 NR


Duluth slided down to eleventh on the poll, while Michigan Tech falls from the poll itself. Still a lot of football yet to be played, and I believe in two weeks the regional rankings start.
 
bigmrg74 said:
D2Football.com's Top 25 poll for this week


1 Pittsburg State 4-0 1
2 Grand Valley 5-0 3
3 CSU-Pueblo 5-0 4
4 Missouri Western 5-0 5
5 Minnesota State 5-0 7
6 Winston-Salem 5-0 8
7 New Haven 5-0 9
8 West Alabama 4-1 10
9 Northwest Missouri 4-1 11
10 Bloomsburg 5-0 12
11 Minnesota Duluth 4-1 2
12 Hillsdale 4-1 13
13 West Texas A&M 4-1 15
14 Midwestern State 3-1 14
15 California 4-1 6
16 Saginaw Valley 4-1 17
17 Central Missouri 4-1 18
18 Ashland 5-0 19
19 Ouachita Baptist 4-0 20
20 Shippensburg 5-0 21
21 IUP 4-1 23
22 Washburn 4-1 24
23 Sioux Falls 5-0 25
24 West Chester 4-1 NR
25 Henderson State 5-0 NR


Duluth slided down to eleventh on the poll,h while Michigan Tech falls from the poll itself. Still a lot of football yet to be played, and I believe in two weeks the regional rankings start.
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Is Minnesota State that good? I'm much more of a D-1 guy and have Iowa season tickets so haven't been able to see them play.
 
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MavHockey14 said:
Is Minnesota State that good? I'm much more of a D-1 guy and have Iowa season tickets so haven't been able to see them play.
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You've got better odds of being able to give the Landcows the old eyeball test than me. I'm sure there's a home game for Mankato that would line up with an Iowa away game. go there, tailgate it. Odds are somebody will have the game on TV or radio there.
 
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