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2011-12 Minnesota Season Thread (Pride On Ice Returns!)

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Stauber1 said:
I agree with you on Ness. He became a pretty solid defensive defenseman by the end of last year. And just think about how improved his offensive numbers would have looked with the scoring ability of guys like Bjugstad and Rau this year.

I wasn't pleased with much of Thompson's play Saturday, outside of what I thought was a really stupid decision on the misconduct penalty.
He was chasing around behind the net quite a bit and taking some pretty poor angles. Those things would probably improve with increased game time, but as it stands he didn't acquit himself very well.
And that penalty was really stupid. It's one thing if you're a daily guy and happen to make that play, but when you (likely) put yourself in the doghouse for taking too many and over-the-top penalties, that is just a hit you do NOT make.
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I agree about the penalty. You just can't hit a guy with an arm extension high in the body (or head) and put the referees in a position to make that call. Right or wrong, guy falling or not....you can't do that. Keep your arms in and suddenly it is a completely legal hit and nobody is stuck trying to "defend" you.

I like the comment on Isaakson. I saw that too. He is starting to figure out where he is supposed to be on the ice. I think that is the hardest thing for a freshman. Just to know where you need to be to be able to make a play.

Is Sam Warning in Lucia's doghouse? He is getting minutes, but doesn't seem to be making the most of them? Good speed, decent hands...a little behind on hockey sense?
 
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Stauber1 said:
In regards to sitting Marshall or Parenteau:
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I didn't want either of them out on Saturday, I was kind of curious why Parenteau sat and they played Thompson. I figured you may as well keep both of them in the lineup but meh at least we came out hungry and got the win.
 
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GS: Minnesota may be without Rau and Nick Bjugstad for the Mariucci Classic. That is 33 percent of your scoring. Who do you think is going to step up and score?

DL: We will have to do it by committee. We can move forward with a couple of our lines intact, but that would take away two-thirds of our top line and our two leading goal scorers, who also play on the power play and the penalty kill. We have to have some other guys play now and that is one of the reasons we played a whole different line last Saturday, because we know we will need those guys coming up. When we come back for those two games we know that other guys are going to get an opportunity. We do not know who yet, or how we are going to reconfigure our lines, but we need other guys to step forward. That may be guys who have not played a lot. A guy like Joey Miller, who played his first game of the year last Saturday found a way to score a goal.



Not sure why they gave Thompson time on Saturday, but this explains a little more why we saw Joey Miller. I think he played really well too.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
GS: Minnesota may be without Rau and Nick Bjugstad for the Mariucci Classic. That is 33 percent of your scoring. Who do you think is going to step up and score?

DL: We will have to do it by committee. We can move forward with a couple of our lines intact, but that would take away two-thirds of our top line and our two leading goal scorers, who also play on the power play and the penalty kill. We have to have some other guys play now and that is one of the reasons we played a whole different line last Saturday, because we know we will need those guys coming up. When we come back for those two games we know that other guys are going to get an opportunity. We do not know who yet, or how we are going to reconfigure our lines, but we need other guys to step forward. That may be guys who have not played a lot. A guy like Joey Miller, who played his first game of the year last Saturday found a way to score a goal.



Not sure why they gave Thompson time on Saturday, but this explains a little more why we saw Joey Miller. I think he played really well too.
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It will be nice to see a guy like Sachetti get another chance to prove himself. Kind of surprised at his lack of playing time this year. Might have to use him down the stretch more as a fourth line center. Easy argument is to get the freshman playing time and we definitely have some depth.
 
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It will be nice to see a guy like Sachetti get another chance to prove himself. Kind of surprised at his lack of playing time this year. Might have to use him down the stretch more as a fourth line center. Easy argument is to get the freshman playing time and we definitely have some depth.
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Totally agree on Sachetti.
 
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Koho said:
I agree with a lot of what you put in your post about Parenteau and Marshall before this one, but not so much this one. While he didn't live up to the high expectation placed on him, and took a couple years to get there, Ness was the most consistent and smartest D on the Gophs last year. (Although I wouldn't describe Marshall as looking 'lost', very often. It is more miscues with the puck that stand out, or just an occasional defensive gaffe.)

And Lucia defended Thompson on the radio tonight saying he played well. I didn't necessarily like the way he looked last time. One time making a hit he didn't have to that ended in a questionable call (also thanks to the guy falling forward into the hit) shouldn't be the sole basis for judging his play.
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Koho....I should have put a smiley face after this! I think Ness came around, but agree...he didn't live up to the advanced billing. That being said....I think Marshall is going to find himself given time. The Gophers have a couple of really defensive minded defensemen this year (Helgeson and Parenteau) which is good. IMO Marshall will need a year to find himself. I talked extensively in the off season with people about how disappointed I was in the lack of production from Nate Schmidt last year. I am happy to continue to eat a side helping of crow for that one this year. He has really taken off and is commanding the power play.

It will be nice to see a mix of players during the Classic. I was really disappointed Friday night in what I see being the feed Bjugstad show. I would like to see guys get the puck to the net and let Bjugstad use his size and reach to continue getting goals and points. Rau and Budish were both guilty of the overfeed. I think just having some new blood in the line-up will freshen some things up and I am hoping it is a positive for Budish to step out of the shadow and establish his game.
 
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There is no one I would sit so Nico could play. The lower lines have been the most consistent and I don't think putting Nico in there is going to improve them any.

And Ness may have been the best d-man we had last year, but that was because we had no good D men last year. He was soft, half the time looked shellshocked with the puck and his defensive positioning was brutal. He played good for a frosh, problem was he was a junior. His accelerating in school and our lack of defensive coaching set him back.
 
Handyman said:
There is no one I would sit so Nico could play. The lower lines have been the most consistent and I don't think putting Nico in there is going to improve them any.

And Ness may have been the best d-man we had last year, but that was because we had no good D men last year. He was soft, half the time looked shellshocked with the puck and his defensive positioning was brutal. He played good for a frosh, problem was he was a junior. His accelerating in school and our lack of defensive coaching set him back.
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so, I guess this means you would like to see Isackson and Miller suit up in place of Bjugstad and Rau? I am ok with that. And I also agree that the 4th line shouldn't be broken up. So, the question becomes, who do you put on a line with Budish?
 
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Well as someone who wants Budish off the top line I guess I would have to say...anyone ;)

I never was very good at making lines so I dont pretend to try but Budish on the top line is not working at the moment.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
so, I guess this means you would like to see Isackson and Miller suit up in place of Bjugstad and Rau? I am ok with that. And I also agree that the 4th line shouldn't be broken up. So, the question becomes, who do you put on a line with Budish?
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Condon Matson Budish

Warning Haula Hansen

Larson Boyd Ambroz

Miller Isackson Sachetti

2nd and 4th line stay the same as last Saturday night
 
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Driftryder said:
Condon Matson Budish

Warning Haula Hansen

Larson Boyd Ambroz

Miller Isackson Sachetti

2nd and 4th line stay the same as last Saturday night
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Interesting....except for two big bodies in Boyd and Ambroz on the same line.....this looks pretty solid. Happy to see Joe Miller in the line-up. My guess is they would put him on the 4th line with Sachetti. N. Larson could definitely be the guy who could easily get shuffled as his game is pretty decent and he would compliment 2nd or 3rd line pretty well.

Haula and Matson switched I think would make a very good top two lines. Matson is not a first line center....but could easily be a second line center and definitely has tons of pride and energy on the ice. I think Haula and Budish could make a nice compliment and it might help them both get out of the mild "funk" they are in.
 
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Sometimes a guy might need to sit out for disciplinary reasons...
 
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Since Brent decided to blow up the series thread, I thought I'd post a link to the video/audio and my article about the final period of Saturday's game: http://bit.ly/vG99yM
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
Dude, let it go. My God.

And when I'm telling you to let it go, you're REALLY beating a dead horse :)
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Actually, he and Flashy Man run the Tech Hockey Guide, and do get some good dirt on the team, and have some connections. They are rather knowledgeable. The article and FM's posting of the last 3 minutes of the game on FSN, unedited, were the only two reasons I thought about not blowing up the thread, since many of us at the game weren't at the right angles to see all the hubbub in front of the benches.

I was especially curious at how the coaches' argument started, and how the MTU guy's helmet went a-flying. The video shows those things.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Actually, he and Flashy Man run the Tech Hockey Guide, and do get some good dirt on the team, and have some connections. They are rather knowledgeable. The article and FM's posting of the last 3 minutes of the game on FSN, unedited, were the only two reasons I thought about not blowing up the thread, since many of us at the game weren't at the right angles to see all the hubbub in front of the benches.

I was especially curious at how the coaches' argument started, and how the MTU guy's helmet went a-flying. The video shows those things.
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Thanks Brent, I didn't post it because I thought JDUBBS and the rest would actually care about what I had to say, but I thought they might still want the link to the video, audio and quotes from the coaches, which is all there.
 
Shirtless Guy said:
Thanks Brent, I didn't post it because I thought JDUBBS and the rest would actually care about what I had to say, but I thought they might still want the link to the video, audio and quotes from the coaches, which is all there.
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My bad man. I thought you were just trying to continue the argument, which had been beaten completely dead. I apologize. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions.
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
My bad man. I thought you were just trying to continue the argument, which had been beaten completely dead. I apologize. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions.
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accepted, notice I didn't mention attendance even once in that extremely long article ;)
 
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JDUBBS1280 said:
My bad man. I thought you were just trying to continue the argument, which had been beaten completely dead. I apologize. I shouldn't have jumped to conclusions.
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There's a fine line with many posters, and yes, I toe that line at best. SG does too.

Overall, get the feel to the board, it takes time. But you will figure out who's a blowhard, and who's not. :)
 
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