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2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
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Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
1 more hour til' game 1 of 09-10 season, can't wait...fortunate enough in the upper valley to get fsn and will be catching the game.
i'm optimistic that this team will learn quickly and gel throughout the season and i do agree with others that even though they lost a lot up front, the additions of a solid Fr. class who can step in and play now combined with a D-unit that has logged a lot of hours and Madore in net gives me a lot of hope for this team. That said, think it's important to be patient and let this team develop. More than ever, think it's important to not get too high when things look good and not too low when things look ugly. As Sneddon has preached every year, the season is a process and I think the new look of this years team with the need for several returnees to step their game to the next level makes that statement very true this year. With the experience on D and a top notch goalie in net, it's expected that they'll be in every game, the next step will be "learning" how to win because you can expect every game to be close. Last year's team developed into "learning" how to win over the course of really a season and a half. Give this years team time to figure that very difficult aspect of the game. A split this weekend would be positive.
on a seperate note and i hate to say it as their seems to be a rivalry brewing, i said it late last year and i believe it as much this year that UML could be a special team that is really tough to beat. Look at their boxscore from tonight just from a line-up perspective, no holes, 4 solid lines, no big stars but solid, solid players everywhere. And goaltending is proven. They will be held in same regard as BC, BU this year as an opponent.
1 more hour til' game 1 of 09-10 season, can't wait...fortunate enough in the upper valley to get fsn and will be catching the game.
i'm optimistic that this team will learn quickly and gel throughout the season and i do agree with others that even though they lost a lot up front, the additions of a solid Fr. class who can step in and play now combined with a D-unit that has logged a lot of hours and Madore in net gives me a lot of hope for this team. That said, think it's important to be patient and let this team develop. More than ever, think it's important to not get too high when things look good and not too low when things look ugly. As Sneddon has preached every year, the season is a process and I think the new look of this years team with the need for several returnees to step their game to the next level makes that statement very true this year. With the experience on D and a top notch goalie in net, it's expected that they'll be in every game, the next step will be "learning" how to win because you can expect every game to be close. Last year's team developed into "learning" how to win over the course of really a season and a half. Give this years team time to figure that very difficult aspect of the game. A split this weekend would be positive.
on a seperate note and i hate to say it as their seems to be a rivalry brewing, i said it late last year and i believe it as much this year that UML could be a special team that is really tough to beat. Look at their boxscore from tonight just from a line-up perspective, no holes, 4 solid lines, no big stars but solid, solid players everywhere. And goaltending is proven. They will be held in same regard as BC, BU this year as an opponent.
Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
well i guess that's it, season's over
i guess that's what i was getting at in my pre-game post, learning how to win those close games which they will do as the season progresses. Little things like not losing your opposing centerman after losing a defensive zone draw but they'll see that on film and learn from it. No way Irwin should have got a 5 min. penalty. Smaller player turned last second and was falling to the ice as a result of his quick turn as a taller player comes in for the hit, and still he hit him on the side not from behind, but the team needs to fight through tough calls as it won't be the last mis-call of the season. A lot of positive things to take from this game, they came out aggressively attacking and playing to win instead of sitting back and being hesitant against a number one team. In the last 1:10 they had many chances to score and created several opportunities of face-offs. Tomorrow night they'll have to be a little better in trying to cut down on the blind passes that resulted in turnovers. Almost had to laugh when Cullity got his first penalty of the season within the first minute of the game on a hit after the whistle, first thought was here we go again but actually the DU player crumbled pretty softly. Will Cullity's first career goal be the beginning of a breakout goal-scoring season for him
All in all a good effort tonight with a lot to build on, sure they had a two goal lead that they would have liked to preserve but if they can secure a win tomorrow night they'll feel good about the weekend.
well i guess that's it, season's over
i guess that's what i was getting at in my pre-game post, learning how to win those close games which they will do as the season progresses. Little things like not losing your opposing centerman after losing a defensive zone draw but they'll see that on film and learn from it. No way Irwin should have got a 5 min. penalty. Smaller player turned last second and was falling to the ice as a result of his quick turn as a taller player comes in for the hit, and still he hit him on the side not from behind, but the team needs to fight through tough calls as it won't be the last mis-call of the season. A lot of positive things to take from this game, they came out aggressively attacking and playing to win instead of sitting back and being hesitant against a number one team. In the last 1:10 they had many chances to score and created several opportunities of face-offs. Tomorrow night they'll have to be a little better in trying to cut down on the blind passes that resulted in turnovers. Almost had to laugh when Cullity got his first penalty of the season within the first minute of the game on a hit after the whistle, first thought was here we go again but actually the DU player crumbled pretty softly. Will Cullity's first career goal be the beginning of a breakout goal-scoring season for him
All in all a good effort tonight with a lot to build on, sure they had a two goal lead that they would have liked to preserve but if they can secure a win tomorrow night they'll feel good about the weekend.Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Watched it on TV ... A great two periods for the Cats ... a better third period for the Pioneers ... Colborne was solid for DU ... can't wait to see him in Bruins Black and Gold ... in fact is there any chance he could sign tomorrow?
Not an excuse ... just a thought ... did the altitude get to UVM in the third? They really seemed to lose a step ... then another step as the period went on.
Watched it on TV ... A great two periods for the Cats ... a better third period for the Pioneers ... Colborne was solid for DU ... can't wait to see him in Bruins Black and Gold ... in fact is there any chance he could sign tomorrow?
Not an excuse ... just a thought ... did the altitude get to UVM in the third? They really seemed to lose a step ... then another step as the period went on.
charliecatamount
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Denver 1 -Brayden Irwin 0
43-22 in shots... Hopefully we can see a rebound tommorow...
Denver 1 -Brayden Irwin 0
43-22 in shots... Hopefully we can see a rebound tommorow...
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
The five minute major was the turning point, you really can't take that penalty. Irwin seems jinxed on five minute majors, anything close and he is saddled with them. He has just got to figure it out.
It would have been nice to get the points last night, tough pill to swallow after coughing up a 3 goal lead. That said, Denver is really, really good, they remind me of last years swarming BU team. The good news is I actually feel pretty good about the prospects of this UVM team after that game, they need to fix some things, but they showed they can score and the freshmen looked decent.
The five minute major was the turning point, you really can't take that penalty. Irwin seems jinxed on five minute majors, anything close and he is saddled with them. He has just got to figure it out.
It would have been nice to get the points last night, tough pill to swallow after coughing up a 3 goal lead. That said, Denver is really, really good, they remind me of last years swarming BU team. The good news is I actually feel pretty good about the prospects of this UVM team after that game, they need to fix some things, but they showed they can score and the freshmen looked decent.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
The shots were not indicative of the game. Up until the questionable major on Irwin I thought VT was carrying the playing for the most part. The penalty minutes had a lot to do with the shot discrepencies.
Personally I thought Irwin was awfully close to be being shoulder to shoulder with maybe a 1/2 step behind the DU player. What I think got him was the elbow to the head that made it look even worse.
The 3rd period was rough as the penalty just killed them along with a the bad angle bank in goal.
The shots were not indicative of the game. Up until the questionable major on Irwin I thought VT was carrying the playing for the most part. The penalty minutes had a lot to do with the shot discrepencies.
Personally I thought Irwin was awfully close to be being shoulder to shoulder with maybe a 1/2 step behind the DU player. What I think got him was the elbow to the head that made it look even worse.
The 3rd period was rough as the penalty just killed them along with a the bad angle bank in goal.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
not sure what to think overall. Chevrie kind of gift wrapped the game for the Cats and they coughed it up. Two of the UVM goals were soft (Cullity and Burrows - having said that it was nice to see them each make plays and it was nice to see Stacey in front of the net to help screen and create disruption on the edge of the crease on the Burrows goal)
I thought the Cullity call was lame to start with. But whatever, they survived it.
The Irwin call was horrible though. Maybe it was two minutes but no way it's five and the game. That is just an awful call and I sure hope that it does not cause Irwin to go off the tracks and lose his self confidence - he was looking good up until then (excepting the earlier penalty at least).
I thought UVM had the game well under control until that major penalty and I was comfortable with the two goal lead. However, losing Irwin, who the FSN announcers was praising as being dangerous, at that point in the game, and having to kill 5 minutes of PP just killed UVM and gave all the momentum to Denver. It certainly contributed to being fatigued in the 3rd, plus they had to mix the lines up to cover the lost center.
I was a bit disappointed in our D and in Madore coughing up those bad angle goals.
Pleased with the freshman line. They seem to struggle in the D zone but they cycle well in the O zone and have a nice combination of speed, size and skill. Nice to see Stalberg get a point, it was a nice pass to Downing and Downing ripped it, sweet goal. Stacey looked good, he's going to carry his portion of the load. Roloff looked good, I think he should be with Stacey to create an even more dynamic and dangerous first line. Not sure about Marshall and Vock yet. We need more out of them.
I thought the fourth line was pretty invisible, of course they got dismantled when Irwin was tossed, but they are a weakness that puts too much 3rd period ice time on the other lines. The Cats need Milo and McCarthy on the ice to solidify the fourth line.
Would have liked Higgins to do more with the odd man rush - he put it right into Chevrie's gut.
I fear that UVM is going to have to play a LOT better tonight to have a shot. DU weathered the storm and is going to be confident tonight.
Comment on UML. Yes, they might be better than UVM this year (blanking SLU is not really a test - how would they have faired vs. DU?) but it's a once every four year phenomina given their unbalanced roster.
I would rather be consistently competitive year in and year out like the Cats have become. UVM will have a shot at home ice this year. But they will likely need to run the table on the five remaining OOC games after tonight to have a decent shot at the NCAA's. Last year it was 3 points from Miami and four from BU plus only losing one OOC game (at SLU) that got them in.
not sure what to think overall. Chevrie kind of gift wrapped the game for the Cats and they coughed it up. Two of the UVM goals were soft (Cullity and Burrows - having said that it was nice to see them each make plays and it was nice to see Stacey in front of the net to help screen and create disruption on the edge of the crease on the Burrows goal)
I thought the Cullity call was lame to start with. But whatever, they survived it.
The Irwin call was horrible though. Maybe it was two minutes but no way it's five and the game. That is just an awful call and I sure hope that it does not cause Irwin to go off the tracks and lose his self confidence - he was looking good up until then (excepting the earlier penalty at least).
I thought UVM had the game well under control until that major penalty and I was comfortable with the two goal lead. However, losing Irwin, who the FSN announcers was praising as being dangerous, at that point in the game, and having to kill 5 minutes of PP just killed UVM and gave all the momentum to Denver. It certainly contributed to being fatigued in the 3rd, plus they had to mix the lines up to cover the lost center.
I was a bit disappointed in our D and in Madore coughing up those bad angle goals.
Pleased with the freshman line. They seem to struggle in the D zone but they cycle well in the O zone and have a nice combination of speed, size and skill. Nice to see Stalberg get a point, it was a nice pass to Downing and Downing ripped it, sweet goal. Stacey looked good, he's going to carry his portion of the load. Roloff looked good, I think he should be with Stacey to create an even more dynamic and dangerous first line. Not sure about Marshall and Vock yet. We need more out of them.
I thought the fourth line was pretty invisible, of course they got dismantled when Irwin was tossed, but they are a weakness that puts too much 3rd period ice time on the other lines. The Cats need Milo and McCarthy on the ice to solidify the fourth line.
Would have liked Higgins to do more with the odd man rush - he put it right into Chevrie's gut.
I fear that UVM is going to have to play a LOT better tonight to have a shot. DU weathered the storm and is going to be confident tonight.
Comment on UML. Yes, they might be better than UVM this year (blanking SLU is not really a test - how would they have faired vs. DU?) but it's a once every four year phenomina given their unbalanced roster.
I would rather be consistently competitive year in and year out like the Cats have become. UVM will have a shot at home ice this year. But they will likely need to run the table on the five remaining OOC games after tonight to have a decent shot at the NCAA's. Last year it was 3 points from Miami and four from BU plus only losing one OOC game (at SLU) that got them in.
bottomdweller
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
This whole unbalanced roster "phenomenon" was a thing of the past. After this season, UML will be bringing in 7 or 8 players. That would give them 6 seniors, 5 juniors, 7 sophomores and 7 or 8 freshmen... doesn't seem too unbalanced to me.
This whole unbalanced roster "phenomenon" was a thing of the past. After this season, UML will be bringing in 7 or 8 players. That would give them 6 seniors, 5 juniors, 7 sophomores and 7 or 8 freshmen... doesn't seem too unbalanced to me.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Watched the game on TV... and feeling a bit like Andy Rooney........was it just me but was that one lousy feed, grainy picture, lots of technical glitches.....
But, was far better than listening to with the SID ....errr I mean the Voice of the Catamounts on the radio.
Watched the game on TV... and feeling a bit like Andy Rooney........was it just me but was that one lousy feed, grainy picture, lots of technical glitches.....
But, was far better than listening to with the SID ....errr I mean the Voice of the Catamounts on the radio.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
The numbers on the roster are a season away from balancing out. Now, if you want to talk about the talent Lowell graduates this spring, sure, it's obviously a concern.
About the game:
Agree with you on two points: that major was a terrible call and your dissapointment with the defense. I can see a minor being called there, but the 5 was just an overreaction.
The defense: for such a hyped defense corps, giving up two 2-goal leads has to be frustrating. Denver is a top ten team, but UVM has a big, experienced defense that should be able to hold a lead.
The numbers on the roster are a season away from balancing out. Now, if you want to talk about the talent Lowell graduates this spring, sure, it's obviously a concern.
About the game:
Agree with you on two points: that major was a terrible call and your dissapointment with the defense. I can see a minor being called there, but the 5 was just an overreaction.
The defense: for such a hyped defense corps, giving up two 2-goal leads has to be frustrating. Denver is a top ten team, but UVM has a big, experienced defense that should be able to hold a lead.
Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
line up changes from last night to tonight:
Franzon in for Burrows and paired with Cullity...Burrows a give away that created a breakaway off post last night....probably keeps him thinking to be sharp at all times beacause Franzon is capable of being in the line-up.
Albertson in for Franklin....has Franklin ever done anything that made you say nice play or good shift?
Switch Downing and Vock, thus top 2 lines are:
Downing-Roloff-Marshall
Vock-Irwin-Stacey , this line will be asked to step up to the challenge.
hoping the team comes in hungry for a win knowing they let one get away, they were the agrressor last night and no need to change that tonight. Shore up some defensive responsibilities and play with confidence. See a lower scoring game tonight.
line up changes from last night to tonight:
Franzon in for Burrows and paired with Cullity...Burrows a give away that created a breakaway off post last night....probably keeps him thinking to be sharp at all times beacause Franzon is capable of being in the line-up.
Albertson in for Franklin....has Franklin ever done anything that made you say nice play or good shift?
Switch Downing and Vock, thus top 2 lines are:
Downing-Roloff-Marshall
Vock-Irwin-Stacey , this line will be asked to step up to the challenge.
hoping the team comes in hungry for a win knowing they let one get away, they were the agrressor last night and no need to change that tonight. Shore up some defensive responsibilities and play with confidence. See a lower scoring game tonight.
Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
for those wondering where Eric Perrin is these days he is playing in what is now the Russian elite league khl.ru for avangard. Heard you can make as much there as you can in the nhl....jaromir jagr is on his team, eric may even be his center.
for those wondering where Eric Perrin is these days he is playing in what is now the Russian elite league khl.ru for avangard. Heard you can make as much there as you can in the nhl....jaromir jagr is on his team, eric may even be his center.
Catamount93
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Excellent split on the road at the preseason #1. Almost had 'em both nights, but tough to argue with taking 2 of 4 points from a team of Denver's caliber.
Looks like we might have ourselves a little more offense thant we thought!
Excellent split on the road at the preseason #1. Almost had 'em both nights, but tough to argue with taking 2 of 4 points from a team of Denver's caliber.
Looks like we might have ourselves a little more offense thant we thought!
Ogilthorpe
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
great win against a really good team, DU has a bunch of talent, little suspect in net but they'll be a force in the ncaa's.
Madore was the story of this game absolutely saving their bacon in the first period with great save after great save. Uvm came out and played physical and what I take from their play this weekend is they mentally aren't looking back at the players they've lost but looking ahead at the opportunity they have to be the next Stalberg, Lenes, Strong. Irwin was a force and we can only hope he plays like this every night. Downing looks poised to take his game to the next level. He didn't get a lot of time but I like what I saw from Albertson, he's big and strong and plays like he wants a spot in the line-up. The freshman line cycled the puck well and those guys all look like players. When Milo and McCarthy get back they'll be some really tough decisions on who's in and who's out, great problem to have.
Nice confidence builder this weekend heading into the Bc game. Good work 09-10' cats!
great win against a really good team, DU has a bunch of talent, little suspect in net but they'll be a force in the ncaa's.
Madore was the story of this game absolutely saving their bacon in the first period with great save after great save. Uvm came out and played physical and what I take from their play this weekend is they mentally aren't looking back at the players they've lost but looking ahead at the opportunity they have to be the next Stalberg, Lenes, Strong. Irwin was a force and we can only hope he plays like this every night. Downing looks poised to take his game to the next level. He didn't get a lot of time but I like what I saw from Albertson, he's big and strong and plays like he wants a spot in the line-up. The freshman line cycled the puck well and those guys all look like players. When Milo and McCarthy get back they'll be some really tough decisions on who's in and who's out, great problem to have.
Nice confidence builder this weekend heading into the Bc game. Good work 09-10' cats!
charliecatamount
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Nice win tonight... did the cats score 10 goals in a weekend ever last year? looks like the offense is in good order. Hopefully it wasnt just a weak Denver d-corp and a rookie netminder.
Suprised Denver was even ranked #1 with an unproven goalie, and what seems like a sub par blue line, at least thats what their coach said...
Will be nice to see what BC looks like next weekend, hopefully the goals keep comming and we can get out to a solid HE start.
Nice win tonight... did the cats score 10 goals in a weekend ever last year? looks like the offense is in good order. Hopefully it wasnt just a weak Denver d-corp and a rookie netminder.
Suprised Denver was even ranked #1 with an unproven goalie, and what seems like a sub par blue line, at least thats what their coach said...
Will be nice to see what BC looks like next weekend, hopefully the goals keep comming and we can get out to a solid HE start.
jcarter7669
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Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
I didn't think the loss of Vik was going to break the offense, but I didn't expect the offense to put up 10 goals against #1 Denver. Tough to lose game one, but I have to give the guys credit for coming back out and battling for the win. Nice job and a great PWR win.
Now lets hope they bear down and take start the conference schedule off strong as well.
I didn't think the loss of Vik was going to break the offense, but I didn't expect the offense to put up 10 goals against #1 Denver. Tough to lose game one, but I have to give the guys credit for coming back out and battling for the win. Nice job and a great PWR win.
Now lets hope they bear down and take start the conference schedule off strong as well.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
Always can use the out of Conference wins.
Impressed with the goal scoring effort, as many seemed to come through with solid efforts.
Denver has great forwards, with explosive speed and finishing skills, so I hope that the 9 goals given up by the d is not indicative of the talent of the team because at the end of the day, this team needs to be solid defensively.
I am sure the flight back from Denver was made much better by the solid results from game 2.
Always can use the out of Conference wins.
Impressed with the goal scoring effort, as many seemed to come through with solid efforts.
Denver has great forwards, with explosive speed and finishing skills, so I hope that the 9 goals given up by the d is not indicative of the talent of the team because at the end of the day, this team needs to be solid defensively.
I am sure the flight back from Denver was made much better by the solid results from game 2.
Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread
This is probably a gross generalization, but it seems like the Western teams play a much more wide open style of hockey. This series had a ton of odd man breaks off of counter-attacks, much like the early season series with Miami last year. UVM just doesn't play games within HE like that very often, if ever. It was fun to watch.
This is probably a gross generalization, but it seems like the Western teams play a much more wide open style of hockey. This series had a ton of odd man breaks off of counter-attacks, much like the early season series with Miami last year. UVM just doesn't play games within HE like that very often, if ever. It was fun to watch.
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