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2009-2010 NHL Season Thread 2: Its all going up in flames!

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Earlier in the day, Burke said he has grown tired of hearing about all of the supposed problems at the "Glitch Games."

"I've been to four Winter Olympics," Burke said. "This is the best one I've been to in terms of organization. ... I think it's been extraordinarily well run. I wish people would quit *****ing about it."
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As much as it pains me to say it: Brian Burke is pretty awesome.
 
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What did Heir Betteman say about NHL'ers in the Olympics going forward? I heard he was interviewed.
 
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The Leafs have to be happy that Grabowski is healing his broken wrist by going around punching people.
 
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Dirty said:
The Leafs have to be happy that Grabowski is healing his broken wrist by going around punching people.
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I'm not sure that's what Conn Smythe had in mind when he said "How are you going to beat 'em on the ice if you can't beat 'em in the alley."

:rolleyes:
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
What did Heir Betteman say about NHL'ers in the Olympics going forward? I heard he was interviewed.
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From another board-
Asked if a game like tonight makes a case for keeping the NHL in the Olympics, Bettman said they try to do the right thing internationally, but it's not without an impact on the NHL season and it's a balancing act. In North America venues (Vancouver, Salt Lake City) it's different than if halfway around the world, especially with time zones. No decision on 2014 has been made yet. They'll talk and see if it makes sense to go to the 2014 games. He calls it a "balancing act."
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I tend to ignore what he says because last I looked, the Olympics are included in the CBA. If the players want to go that badly, they'll trade something for it during the negotiations in a couple years.
 
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Nice response by Betteman :rolleyes:. Everything that man says is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
 
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The response was solid from Bettman. The Olympics in Sochi are NOT in the CBA. Players will not want to give up anything for it either.
 
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Not sure how it performed in other parts of the country, but the US/Canada game outperformed NBC's programming among key demographics here in Chicago last night:

USA vs. Canada on MSNBC
A1849 (5.9/15)
M1849 (7.4/18)
M2554 (8.3/18)

Prime Olympics on NBC
A1849 (5.6/14)
M1849 (5.1/13)
M2554 (7.5/16)

As outlined in NBC's reasoning for having the game on MSNBC in the first place, prime programming still won the night overall, thanks to two key groups:

USA vs. Canada on MSNBC
W1849 (4.3/11)
W2554 (5.0/11)

Prime Olympics on NBC
W1849 (6.2/16)
W2554 (8.6/19)

I still think the game, if on NBC, would have attracted far more casual viewers than NBC estimated. And anything lost would have been made up many times over the course of the remaining NHL on NBC Game of the Week schedule, particularly on March 14 when there is one VERY interesting matchup included in NBC's flex options.
 
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Another board had the game actually beating the NBC rating in Buffalo. 14.6 to 14.4. Probably similar in Pittsburgh and Detroit, if I had to guess.
 
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I would guess that it did very well in the Twin Cities. I was very surprised that so many people that I know were watching, people that I never expected to watch a hockey game, and it was only a pool game!

I too think that the game would have done much better than expected on NBC. You'd get so many people tuning in because it was the Olympics, and I don't think they would turn the channel after watching for a little bit, since there was no part of that game that was boring.
 
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I did, however, enjoy watching the game almost entirely without commercial interruption. Wouldn't have been possible on NBC, and with the way the Olympic contests have no media timeouts, who knows what might have been missed (potentially Rafalski's second goal?).
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
The response was solid from Bettman. The Olympics in Sochi are NOT in the CBA. Players will not want to give up anything for it either.
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So? The man is getting two weeks of free advertising for his product and he's playing politics with his answer.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
So? The man is getting two weeks of free advertising for his product and he's playing politics with his answer.
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He has to. He needs this bargaining chip to extract concessions from both the union and the IIHF/IOC down the line. Doesn't make any sense to show your hand one way or the other.
 
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I thought Bettman played the Olympics thing well. There's going to be some negotiations when it comes to the next Olympics and he's going to have to flex his muscles because there's some serious drawbacks to sending NHL players over there.

Of course I also heard him on TV just a few hours after the US's big win answering a question about how hockey gets into the US mainstream with football and baseball by using the phrase "Hockey is Canada's game". Moron.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
So? The man is getting two weeks of free advertising for his product and he's playing politics with his answer.
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Free advertising on MSNBC, CNBC and USA. OMG! :rolleyes:

I don't blame him and the owners for being less than enthused about the Olympics. You shut down for two weeks, probably 3 if you go in 2014, your games are shown on cable channels that are right around where VS is anyway, or on tape delay to half the country, risking injuries to their star players, you make no money, in fact, by doing the Olympics instead of the World Cup of Hockey they used to have, they're losing money and handing it to the IOC and IIHF.

I think they'll still end up going, but there's a reason why the players will have to negotiate for it instead of getting it for free from the owners.
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
Hahahaha. He's getting two weeks of free advertising on MSNBC? Woohoo! :rolleyes:
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Great choice by the network. If it had been on NBC half the game would have been cut out for commercials. But I guess that's lost in everything.

I guess the game last night which has more buzz than any hockey game in oh, say, 30 years will do nothing to boost the NHL. Nothing at all.

But, as always, everything is politics and negotiations.
 
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