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12.15 announcement on Big Ten expansion

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They just took an $18 million hit with Charlie Weis.

I don't know how much the buyout actually was, but I'm convinced that it was substantially less than $18 MM. The consistent note from insider types is that the public speculation about the buyout is significantly higher than it really was. (Well, that's one consistent note; the other consistent note is that the actual amount is never getting out.)
 
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If the Big XII loses Nebraska or Missouri (the reason either would leave is because the B12 has become the SWC 2.0 and all the power is in Texas now, supposedly) their first choice would probably be BYU, since that was who they almost invited before Governor Richards of Texas force fed Baylor to the new conference. BYU's decent in most sports, travels well for bowls,has a decent following outside of Utah being the premier Mormon school in the country.

s/Governor Richards/Lt. Governor Bullock/

(And according to one report I've read, the same one that said it was Bullock rather than Richards that pushed the issue, Baylor did have a stronger case for inclusion at the time.)
 
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I don't know how much the buyout actually was, but I'm convinced that it was substantially less than $18 MM. The consistent note from insider types is that the public speculation about the buyout is significantly higher than it really was. (Well, that's one consistent note; the other consistent note is that the actual amount is never getting out.)
According to Bloomberg...

The firing may have been a costly decision for Notre Dame, which is forced to buy out the remainder of Weis’s contract. The Sporting News reported this month that the school owes Weis $18 million and more than $1 million for the guaranteed contracts of his assistant coaches. Other media reports say Weis’s buyout may be as low as $4 million.
 
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The way that I've heard it, the "other media reports" are probably more reliable.
 
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What about all of this talk about the Big Ten trying to go to 14?? Personally, I think its just a bit more Saber-ratting intended to get the Big East to do something to force about the endgame that most of the Big Ten wants, the Irish in the Big Ten. If you have the Big Ten talking about how they're looking to bring in 3 new teams, probably about 2 of those teams would be from the Big East. The Big East is probably nervous enough about loosing one of their football schools right now, and losing 2 would drop them down from BCS status guaranteed. There's about only 2 ways for the Big East to prevent that. They would have to get ND football into the fold, giving everybody in the league a shot at the Irish on the Gridiron, or maybe the smarter move all around, kick the rest of ND sports out of the Big East so that the Big Ten will just go after them and leave the other Big East Football schools alone.
 
Re: 12.15 announcement on Big Ten expansion

What about all of this talk about the Big Ten trying to go to 14?? Personally, I think its just a bit more Saber-ratting intended to get the Big East to do something to force about the endgame that most of the Big Ten wants, the Irish in the Big Ten. If you have the Big Ten talking about how they're looking to bring in 3 new teams, probably about 2 of those teams would be from the Big East. The Big East is probably nervous enough about loosing one of their football schools right now, and losing 2 would drop them down from BCS status guaranteed. There's about only 2 ways for the Big East to prevent that. They would have to get ND football into the fold, giving everybody in the league a shot at the Irish on the Gridiron, or maybe the smarter move all around, kick the rest of ND sports out of the Big East so that the Big Ten will just go after them and leave the other Big East Football schools alone.

If notre dame doesn't join the richest conference in college football they aren't going to join the big east.
 
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I just don't see Texas heading for the Big Ten.

I don't know, I don't really see it either. They'd lose rivalries with OU, A&M and other Big 12 schools.
At the same time, let's not kid ourselves, Texas would win the Big 10 in football 9 out of every 10 years. That has to be kind of attractive to Mack Brown.
 
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I don't know, I don't really see it either. They'd lose rivalries with OU, A&M and other Big 12 schools.
At the same time, let's not kid ourselves, Texas would win the Big 10 in football 9 out of every 10 years. That has to be kind of attractive to Mack Brown.

PSU thought the same thing and look what happened to them.;)
 
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