Kepler
Si certus es dubita
This. I personally know dozens of federal workers who got RIF'ed. They're all pissed we caved, and none of them believe Dump and the GOP will ever honor their end.
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This. I personally know dozens of federal workers who got RIF'ed. They're all pissed we caved, and none of them believe Dump and the GOP will ever honor their end.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
We still have to. That's the thing about fighting fascism. The alternative is "When they kick in your front door / How you gonna come?"
What this means is we need to take over the Democratic party 50x more now.
The Far Right didn't abandon the GOP, they colonized it and purged the centrists. The two parties are the only mechanisms of political change in the United States. So the only route to political power is to control one of them.
Or, if you're the billionaires, both.
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walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Angus has always been a POS yet Maine keeps electing him for some reason? Mostly because no one else has the machine he does or maybe name recognition? Maybe its because he is older than dirt so he fits in the senate.
Didn't Trumps shut down last term end because of air traffic controllers?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)
Shaheen: "When I talk to my constituents in New Hampshire, you know what they say to me? They say, 'Why can't you all just work together to address the problems that are facing this country?'"
bsky.app
Is this woman on meth? She must be to be this stupid.
ticapnews
Never graduate.
You can't be this gullible. She's not stupid (or on meth) - she's complicit.Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)
Shaheen: "When I talk to my constituents in New Hampshire, you know what they say to me? They say, 'Why can't you all just work together to address the problems that are facing this country?'"
Is this woman on meth? She must be to be this stupid.
But just in case you are that gullible, I have a gorgeous plot of land just five miles east of Galveston that is priced to move! It's currently undeveloped so you can build it to suit your purposes. Just send an email to gullible(at)anothergulliblevictim.com and we can get the ball rolling!
While I'm at it, I'll throw open this opportunity to everyone. My cousin is a former Nigerian prince and he needs help in moving hundreds of millions of dollars worth of diamonds out of the country. Venmo me all the money in your savings account to help cover fees. You'll get at least $10 million once the diamonds are securely out of the country, which could be as early as next month!
So, how would this happen, short of Schumer stepping down?
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DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN RO KHANNA SAYS SENATOR CHUCK SCHUMER IS “NO LONGER EFFECTIVE AND SHOULD BE REPLACED,” CALLING FOR NEW LEADERSHIP IN THE SENATE.
ticapnews
Never graduate.
My guess on how Mike Johnson reconvenes the House for a vote but gets around swearing in Grijalva: he says he wants the House as it was constituted at the time of the shutdown to vote to end the shutdown then he'll swear her in. The Democrats, being Democrats and having no spine or being 100% complicit, go along with the plan. The vote gets held and then he adjourns without swearing her in. Democrats express surprise and outrage at Lucy pulling the football away once again.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
The problem is...they were winning. Real leadership (I know you know this) would have pivoted from the plan when tbe voters said "we approve of this keep it up" on a massive scale.
They arent counting on the voters being smart (smart voters would hold this against them) tbey are counting on voters to forget in a year and not blame them. Same game they played last time they help the GOP pass a budget. Their support tanked and donations from anyone not affiliated with massive wealth dried up.
The Left is going to flee and half the base will too. When the price of health care goes up the Dems will be blamed. When the GOP sends out worthless checks they will be heroes. The Midterms will go sideways. Gerrymandering might save a slim majority in the House...a hollow victory when they were set for a huge wave election.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
You’re confusing recission and impoundment.
If congress passes a law and he signs it that says plain letter “no more RIFs until 2030, even this scotus won’t allow that
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
I quote a few I saw last night "My family and I didnt suffer and worry for this".
The infuriating thing is there was zero pressure on the Dems to cave. I mean if polling was bad or if Tuesday had been a hit or miss night then sure...but the people supported tbe Dems, came out and voted and said at every protest and PC to keep fighting.
But the people dont matter in these equations. And Chucky will be leader for like another 4 years...
ticapnews
Never graduate.
As far as I can tell, Senate rules say a single member of the minority party can force a recall vote at any time. No one does this because Schumer would easily win a vote and retaliation for a failed attempt would be severe.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
There absolutely was pressure to cave. People were starting to miss rent and mortgage. People were running out of SNAP benefits. Hell, there was a near miss at LAX this weekend.
Did all of them want the Dems to cave? Nope. But to take a few anecdotes being reported of snap beneficiaries and federal workers apply them to 40+ million people is just wrong.
Again, I didn’t want them to cave. So don’t read this as supporting the cave. But your painting of this as a fully supported shutdown with no concessions from the cave is absolutely incorrect.
Edit: the ATC union has called for the shutdown to end. There have been rumors of other unions doing the same behind the scenes.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
I’m convinced there have been talks behind closed doors. But it’s clearly not enough votes. Probably by a fairly decent margin.
Senators like not having to work. The only way to fix this is to volunteer and donate to primary challengers. The only way to get a senator to do their job is to threaten it.
ticapnews
Never graduate.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
No I am not I am speaking to the overall point which is in what universe are any of these rules being followed? (The piint Mr. Patent Guy would block people for saying) And yes this SCOTUS 100% will let him. This isnt civics class these people don't care about the rules or what is right. SCOTUS is only going to murder the tariffs because it helps the people they care about. (Rich people like Lutnicks kids)
Abregio-Garcia is still in detention and likely getting deported despite court orders, SNAP was being held up despite 2 court orders, the National Guard and CPB are still kidnapping people despite court orders...The Judicial Branch has zero pull anymore. Anything the GOP offers is useless because no one can force Trump to follow the rules.
And again...there is no guarantee any of the "concessions" happen anyways. The House GOP is under no obligation to do anything and the Dems have no recourse because they cashed in their one chip. (Government is now open) And if they try this again it will go the exact same way.
What are the two biggest reasons the Dems won on Tuesday? Health Care prices and affordability. They had a chance to fix one of those twice and refused to. Didnt even suggest it. Come Jan 1 the rate hikes are owned as much by Dems as the GOP. I know Chucky thinks people will only care about the vote but Dem voters aren't goldfish...they will remember the Dems didnt even try to force the issue.
No one will care about the RIFS.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Federal workers said to fight. They were the ones missing those payments. Notice how none of them are dancing in the streets? Heck half of them might still get fired anyways. If they were putting pressure on they would have run to the press to beg for a deal...they never did. (Just like last time Schumer caved and they told him not to)
But lets get one thing straight, the Dems didnt cave because of them anyways. They caved because the airlines came calling. Thousands of flights being canceled during the biggest travel season of the year would kill their bottom line. Airports couldn't be staffed and a full walkout was coming because no one was getting paid. They either threatened or bribed and Chucky and the Centrists did what they do best. That is why the deal is so bad the Dems needed the GOP to give them concepts of a concession to justify it.
Democrats in 2025: sorry you cant afford health care or groceries...but at least the flights will be on time! Sure you can't take them but we appreciate your sacrifice from First Class!
And then in comes the GOP with their Trump Checks next spring (which Dems will vote for under the guise of helping people) and everyone scratches their head as to why the Dems cant connect with voters.
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