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116th Congress: Episode 1 - Trial by Fire

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Who’s the bald dude with the hair hitting his back?
 
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mookie1995 said:
Is there any other that got tD elected? Cause not sure those matter more?
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Yeah, the trade deals. Which he has systematically made worse. But, whatever. He also ran on eliminating the debt in 8 years. After two it grew 2 trillion. So, we got 6 years left to get rid of it.
 
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mookie1995 said:
Is there any other that got tD elected? Cause not sure those matter more?
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I guess I'm not quite ready to accept that morons and racists define what issues matter the most in this country. 2020 will tell me whether that's the world we will be living in.
 
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joecct said:
Illegal v legal immigration. Who would be in favor of illegal?

If the border is porous like tD says, stop the leaks. If you have a better idea than a wall, what is it?
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The border is not "porous". There are technological improvements that could be made to surveillance, without building the d@mn wall and without resorting to "shoot to kill" orders. Trump has been offered appropriations to make those border improvements, and he has obstinately insisted on building a wall.

Not to mention, how do you secure all of the private lands where parts of the wall need to be built? Oh right, eminent domain. Taking people's duly-owned property by force, aka communism.
 
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GrinCDXX said:
I guess I'm not quite ready to accept that morons and racists define what issues matter the most in this country. 2020 will tell me whether that's the world we will be living in.
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Them and Corporations. Have for quite a while now. Almost 40 years.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The border is not "porous". There are technological improvements that could be made to surveillance, without building the d@mn wall and without resorting to "shoot to kill" orders. Trump has been offered appropriations to make those border improvements, and he has obstinately insisted on building a wall.

Not to mention, how do you secure all of the private lands where parts of the wall need to be built? Oh right, eminent domain. Taking people's duly-owned property by force, aka communism.
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Why thank you - an alternative. At least, this time, you actually added something to the conversation instead of shouting down "wrong thinking".

If Border Patrol can ensure that illegally crossing the border is made as difficult as possible, I don't care how. A wall is low tech. Sonic disrupters, maybe, as a high tech solution?
 
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The alternative is making it easier to legally immigrate here and maybe tweeking the trade deals to make Mexico better off economically. As far as enforcing the border itself you could potentially do a better job of that if ICE's resources weren't being dedicated to rounding up maids and farm workers who contribute positively to our society.
 
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joecct said:
Why thank you - an alternative. At least, this time, you actually added something to the conversation instead of shouting down "wrong thinking".

If Border Patrol can ensure that illegally crossing the border is made as difficult as possible, I don't care how. A wall is low tech. Sonic disrupters, maybe, as a high tech solution?
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Did someone really need to explain that alternative to you? Is that not embarrassing?
 
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trixR4kids said:
The alternative is making it easier to legally immigrate here and maybe tweeking the trade deals to make Mexico better off economically. As far as enforcing the border itself you could potentially do a better job of that if ICE's resources weren't being dedicated to rounding up maids and farm workers who contribute positively to our society.
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Still doesn't solve the green card issue. Or the employment issue. We should spend some time figuring out what jobs immigrants are taking and why they're taking them. And why when their green card expires they aren't leaving.

Instead we worry about Caravans.

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joecct said:
Why thank you - an alternative. At least, this time, you actually added something to the conversation instead of shouting down "wrong thinking".

If Border Patrol can ensure that illegally crossing the border is made as difficult as possible, I don't care how. A wall is low tech. Sonic disrupters, maybe, as a high tech solution?
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Cracking down on companies that hire them. That's number one. If there's no drug dealers, there's no drug users.

But that puts the responsibility on the executive, and both Donnie is and Bushie was silent on that one.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Cracking down on companies that hire them. That's number one. If there's no drug dealers, there's no drug users.

But that puts the responsibility on the executive, and both Donnie is and Bushie was silent on that one.
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If there are no suppliers of drugs, then there is no demand for drugs...I don't think that's how it works. Also, that may be the most straightforward GOP-based line of criminal economics you've ever stated.
 
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St. Clown said:
If there are no suppliers of drugs, then there is no demand for drugs...I don't think that's how it works. Also, that may be the most straightforward GOP-based line of criminal economics you've ever stated.
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Prioritizing the pursuit of drug dealers over drug users? Yeah, that's how it works. At least that's law enforcement's approach. Beyond that, not really following.

And if your goal is to stop illegal immigration...seems it doesn't help to turn a blind eye to companies illegally hiring illegal immigrants. Am I wrong?
 
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5mn_Major said:
Prioritizing the pursuit of drug dealers over drug users? Yeah, that's how it works. At least that's law enforcement's approach. Beyond that, not really following.

And if your goal is to stop illegal immigration...seems it doesn't help to turn a blind eye to companies illegally hiring illegal immigrants. Am I wrong?
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Yes, it's law enforcements' approach to the situation. How has that worked out for the nation throughout the entirety of the War on Drugs?

If you kill the demand for the illegal labor by placing high enough penalties on the employers, then you'll stifle the supply of illegal labor as the laborers will not benefit from being here.
 
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