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115th Congress. In Bridge, Can Hearts be Trumped? In Spades!

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This seems to me like a centrist bill. I'm sure it's probably "far left" though since the Democrats are sponsoring it and no way in hell the Republicans pass it or Trump signs it.

Name something on the agenda for Democrats in Congress and it's likely DOA — including a bill to protect LGBT kids, which the Republican majority let die last year without a hearing. And yet, buoyed by their progressive constituency and resolve to set themselves apart from the Trump administration, Democrats will take another shot this year. The bill — to be filed Tuesday by Sen. Patty Murray and Rep. Ted Lieu — would ban services that claim to turn gay people straight or make transgender people identify with their birth sex.

Known as conversion therapy, the treatment is denounced by critics who say it amounts to torturing kids, noting that top medical groups have repeatedly discredited the supposed cures as snake oil. Seven states prohibit the practice, most recently with a law approved this month in New Mexico.

Yet the programs remain legal in much of the United States, popular with some religious conservatives who say being LGBT is a choice. Vice President Mike Pence has faced scrutiny for comments he made during a Congressional run in 2000 — comments that he insisted were not about conversion therapy — supporting groups that "provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."

So Democrats have pressed on in Congress.

The Therapeutic Fraud Prevention Act, as filed in the Senate, would make it illegal to advertise or provide therapy that claims to "change another individual’s sexual orientation or gender identity" or to "eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals of the same gender." Both the Federal Trade Commission and state attorneys general could enforce it.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/bill-for-the-lgbt-kids?utm_term=.pb8VEqb87#.isdwDaGk3

This would fit right in with the discussion in the Nice Planet thread as well.
 
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I Think Republicans Are Trying to Lose the Health Care Debate

"The new Republican amendment, introduced Tuesday night, would allow states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions. This means that insurers could once again, under certain circumstances, charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people.

Republican legislators liked this policy well enough to offer it in a new amendment. They do not, however, seem to like it enough to have it apply to themselves and their staff. A spokesperson for Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) who authored this amendment confirmed this was the case: members of Congress and their staff would get the guarantee of keeping these Obamacare regulations. Health law expert Tim Jost flagged me to this particular issue."
 
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Handyman said:
I Think Republicans Are Trying to Lose the Health Care Debate

"The new Republican amendment, introduced Tuesday night, would allow states to waive out of Obamacare’s ban on pre-existing conditions. This means that insurers could once again, under certain circumstances, charge sick people higher premiums than healthy people.

Republican legislators liked this policy well enough to offer it in a new amendment. They do not, however, seem to like it enough to have it apply to themselves and their staff. A spokesperson for Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.) who authored this amendment confirmed this was the case: members of Congress and their staff would get the guarantee of keeping these Obamacare regulations. Health law expert Tim Jost flagged me to this particular issue."
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Yeah, I don't get that. What do they think everyone at the Town Hall was screaming about?
 
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Kepler said:
Didn't you hear? They were all paid by George Soros.
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It just feeds my narrative that there are no new good ideas or problem solving in Washington anymore. And we know why. That narrative feeds the GOP's election coffers that Washington can't solve people's problems. And as long as Government is bad, Republicans will continue to get elected and make millions off of government.

And that's Conservative. According to Rush. Which has redefined the term. Saw that he was pretty sad the other day over Trump caving on the Wall.
 
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It just boggles my mind...Obamacare supposedly sucks yet the Congressmen who want to repeal and replace it want to stay on it and keep their staff on it? The logic doesnt work...
 
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Handyman said:
It just boggles my mind...Obamacare supposedly sucks yet the Congressmen who want to repeal and replace it want to stay on it and keep their staff on it? The logic doesnt work...
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It's been the logic since Reagan. The GOP wants all the good but doesn't want to pay for it. Thus the debt. Obamacare has lots of "good" stuff that everyone supports. The problem is it costs money. So, the GOP keeps the good for their people and **** the electorate. Everybody wins.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
It's been the logic since Reagan. The GOP wants all the good but doesn't want to pay for it. Thus the debt. Obamacare has lots of "good" stuff that everyone supports. The problem is it costs money. So, the GOP keeps the good for their people and **** the electorate. Everybody wins.
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Tax and spend is better than borrow and spend.
 
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I am very dubious and very distrustful of Trump and GOP Congress on their tax plan. 35% to 15% does not convince me that revenues will be made up for even greater debt spending.

Some companies like GE don't pay 35%, they take advantage of loopholes to pay far less or almost no tax.

As it is, many companies are outsourcing work because the labor is dirt cheap. For instance, John Hancock is laying off many US workers and hiring workers in the Philippines for far less. So even if it is lowered to 15% I don't see how it will pay our bills with lost revenues. Mnunchin says it will create jobs here but I am skeptical that it will do what it is suppose to do and boost the economy.

Other economists can poke holes through their plans and you get the idea that the GOP is just spinning and cramming this plan down our throats to benefit certain people. When you asked questions or bring up real facts, they quickly dismiss it or quickly give you an answer that doesn't answer the question. Why ? Because they have no answer and hope you swallow everything they tell you.
 
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BCeagle said:
I am very dubious and very distrustful of Trump and GOP Congress on their tax plan. 35% to 15% does not convince me that revenues will be made up for even greater debt spending.

Some companies like GE don't pay 35%, they take advantage of loopholes to pay far less or almost no tax.

As it is, many companies are outsourcing work because the labor is dirt cheap. For instance, John Hancock is laying off many US workers and hiring workers in the Philippines for far less. So even if it is lowered to 15% I don't see how it will pay our bills with lost revenues. Mnunchin says it will create jobs here but I am skeptical that it will do what it is suppose to do and boost the economy.

Other economists can poke holes through their plans and you get the idea that the GOP is just spinning and cramming this plan down our throats to benefit certain people. When you asked questions or bring up real facts, they quickly dismiss it or quickly give you an answer that doesn't answer the question. Why ? Because they have no answer and hope you swallow everything they tell you.
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I would be willing to make the corporate tax rate 0% if we made the personal income tax rate over $1M 50% and over $10M 90%.

Companies can generate jobs, that's fine, don't tax that. Tax the people who are getting rich through the manipulation of columns of figures. Anybody can do that; they don't need to be compensated with insane wealth.
 
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Say what you will about her, but Elizabeth Warren was brilliant on Real Time last night.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Say what you will about her, but Elizabeth Warren was brilliant on Real Time last night.
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I'll stop at "brilliant", because anyone with a working brain knows that trickle-down and student loans are a fallacy that has led to America's crumbling infrastructure, and the indentured servitude of many Millennials (I'm fortunate not to be in this trap, but I know many peers for whom it is a reality). I'll say this - she didn't cut any corners while making a case. It's too bad that only libs watch Maher.

I did figuratively vomit when she said, "I went to Trump's inauguration. I wanted to SEE it with my EYES!!!!!" :rolleyes:

She's not electable though. A Harvard prof-turned-Senator? Half of America already sees her as Hillary with designer glasses.
 
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Didn't say she was electable. Only I thought her message was powerful and very well constructed along with her conviction.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/30/ros-lehtinen-congress-florida-237813

Another longtime Republican is leaving the House. More evidence of rats fleeing a sinking ship or just normal churn?
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Sounds like a case of a weary Bush Republican calling it a career amidst the current chaos.

Chaffetz, on the other hand, is probably going to lay low and aim for Gov. of Utah or the Senate in a few years.
 
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