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115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
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How old is Paul Ryan?
ScoobyDoo
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Ironic that the Party of Youth has someone pushing 80 and the Crotchety Old Party is lead by a relative kid
They need an Obama style person in leadership. Nancy has been a good soldier for years but new blood is needed at the top.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
You know the expression. The only thing sadder than an old hippie is a young conservative.
Ironic that the Party of Youth has someone pushing 80 and the Crotchety Old Party is lead by a relative kid
You know the expression. The only thing sadder than an old hippie is a young conservative.
ScoobyDoo
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That's fine. I personally don't care about age, sex, religion, or color. I only care about policy. Nancy is years younger to me than Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan's ideas are older than dirt and more dangerous than plutonium.
Ironic that the Party of Youth has someone pushing 80 and the Crotchety Old Party is lead by a relative kid
They need an Obama style person in leadership. Nancy has been a good soldier for years but new blood is needed at the top.
That's fine. I personally don't care about age, sex, religion, or color. I only care about policy. Nancy is years younger to me than Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan's ideas are older than dirt and more dangerous than plutonium.
Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
A good exercise is to figure out which Dem Congresscritters you've actually heard of and who've made a good impression. That presumably would be a good place to start for the next Speaker.
I know of Steny Hoyer for example as well as John Lewis. Hoyer is about Pelosi's age and Lewis while a Civil Rights legend must also be getting up there in years. So discount those two.
Schiff in CA and Elijah Cummings from MD have done a stellar job fighting GOP knucks in hearings and investigations. Cummings is pushing 70 but Schiff is only in his 50's.
From my home state Moulton and Kennedy have been pretty high profile. Kennedy is probably biding his time for a Senate seat to open up (both MA senators are in their 70's while he's in his 30's). Like how Moulton took down a thoroughly corrupt Dem congressman in a primary a few years ago.
Other than Tim Ryan can't think of anybody else that stands out.
A good exercise is to figure out which Dem Congresscritters you've actually heard of and who've made a good impression. That presumably would be a good place to start for the next Speaker.
I know of Steny Hoyer for example as well as John Lewis. Hoyer is about Pelosi's age and Lewis while a Civil Rights legend must also be getting up there in years. So discount those two.
Schiff in CA and Elijah Cummings from MD have done a stellar job fighting GOP knucks in hearings and investigations. Cummings is pushing 70 but Schiff is only in his 50's.
From my home state Moulton and Kennedy have been pretty high profile. Kennedy is probably biding his time for a Senate seat to open up (both MA senators are in their 70's while he's in his 30's). Like how Moulton took down a thoroughly corrupt Dem congressman in a primary a few years ago.
Other than Tim Ryan can't think of anybody else that stands out.
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You need good cat herders, something Nancy and Steny are very good at. The policy wonks get committee chairs, but the top needs to keep the Party on (the same) message
Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
Indeed. Need a messenger and a strategist/parliamentarian. That's why I favor one of these people who've been duking it out with the Nunes and Gowdys of the world on these bogus investigative committees. They essentially have to do both and in the examples I listed have done a good job (Schiff and Cummings).
Indeed. Need a messenger and a strategist/parliamentarian. That's why I favor one of these people who've been duking it out with the Nunes and Gowdys of the world on these bogus investigative committees. They essentially have to do both and in the examples I listed have done a good job (Schiff and Cummings).
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Schiff or Lieu would be good choices. Ellison has too much baggage.
Schiff or Lieu would be good choices. Ellison has too much baggage.
I absolutely disagree with this. I think there is a huge group of Americans with an unconscious, unacknowledged, probably unacknowledgeable bias against women and minorities. A lot of them probably vote D occasionally...just not if it's a woman. But not because of her gender, you understand - they just happen not to like her policies or personality or trustworthiness, or.....
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Kepler
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Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
No, that was true in the 1980s. Since then they have all migrated to the GOP as part of the Great Mitosis where all the other scum have moved to the right and been sealed inside the Echo Chamber.
No, that was true in the 1980s. Since then they have all migrated to the GOP as part of the Great Mitosis where all the other scum have moved to the right and been sealed inside the Echo Chamber.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
I agree that Schiff would be a good choice. Knows how to use judo -- look at the way he's run circles around Dump and his syndicate -- and understands media.
I agree that Schiff would be a good choice. Knows how to use judo -- look at the way he's run circles around Dump and his syndicate -- and understands media.
ScoobyDoo
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Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
I'm with you on this one.
I'm with you on this one.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.
Maybe the Olds. But I want to believe the portion of the electorate with functioning brain cells isn't still f-cked up by that stuff. Homophobia, absolutely, that won't go away for a while -- maybe ever given the war zone of the elementary school yard for boys -- but sexism ought to be a dead letter and racism ought to be restricted now only to those who live in utterly segregated communities. Most of those are actually in the North. Not a lot of lily white slave state rural areas, but plenty in places like western NY, central PA, and broad swathes of the Midwest and West.
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Maybe the Olds. But I want to believe the portion of the electorate with functioning brain cells isn't still f-cked up by that stuff. Homophobia, absolutely, that won't go away for a while -- maybe ever given the war zone of the elementary school yard for boys -- but sexism ought to be a dead letter and racism ought to be restricted now only to those who live in utterly segregated communities. Most of those are actually in the North. Not a lot of lily white slave state rural areas, but plenty in places like western NY, central PA, and broad swathes of the Midwest and West.
<img src="http://cdoovision.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/percent-white-county-map-us-whitesmap.gif" />
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ScoobyDoo
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There is no question that most of them fall into that 33%. But there is always exceptions in every group and it's just a matter of how large that exception is.
There is no question that most of them fall into that 33%. But there is always exceptions in every group and it's just a matter of how large that exception is.
Kepler
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Sure, but as always I'm talking normal distribution. I think if you map racism against political affiliation the racism mean falls about 2 sigma to the right of the political mean. That would be 95.45 + 4.55/2 = 97.725% of racists to the right of the political spectrum. Not 100% to be sure, but...
<img src="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bin_Wang111/publication/273955667/figure/fig3/AS:339883190177813@1458045875582/The-confidence-intervals-correspond-to-3-sigma-rule-of-the-normal-distribution.png" height="300" />
Sexism is maybe 90% and homophobia 80%.
For racism I'm counting white racism against blacks. Black racism against whites is probably about 99% on the left.
None of this has anything to do with the percentage of people who are racist -- only the percentage we find in each quadrant. Assuming 50% of the country is right and 10% of the country is racist, we'd expect about 19% of the right to be racist and 1% of the left.
Sure, but as always I'm talking normal distribution. I think if you map racism against political affiliation the racism mean falls about 2 sigma to the right of the political mean. That would be 95.45 + 4.55/2 = 97.725% of racists to the right of the political spectrum. Not 100% to be sure, but...
<img src="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Bin_Wang111/publication/273955667/figure/fig3/AS:339883190177813@1458045875582/The-confidence-intervals-correspond-to-3-sigma-rule-of-the-normal-distribution.png" height="300" />
Sexism is maybe 90% and homophobia 80%.
For racism I'm counting white racism against blacks. Black racism against whites is probably about 99% on the left.
None of this has anything to do with the percentage of people who are racist -- only the percentage we find in each quadrant. Assuming 50% of the country is right and 10% of the country is racist, we'd expect about 19% of the right to be racist and 1% of the left.
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