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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

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PA high school turns down a $5000 grant from the bogeyman, I mean the NRA, to buy new equipment for the HS rifle team. School board calls it "dirty money".

But then the local community, local business, raises close to $7000 to buy guns for the same HS rifle team. And a go-fund-me page is close to raising another $5000. But that's from local citizens, not the NRA, so it's good, clean, not dirty?

I thought the NRA was just bad, evil citizens who are infatuated with firearms. These local fundraisers are good, pure, local citizens giving dollars to the same cause to buy the same firearm? Or is it that some money for guns is fine and other is not. Or is it the wrong people giving the money.

Or is it the locals wanted their HS rifle team to still have proper firearms equipment and training. If it's this, an Article V push might face more headwinds than some here believe because the money still showed up somehow from the local, everyday citizenry.

No matter what, it's a fascinating case study so far.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...am-gets-big-donation-after-nra-grant-rejected
 
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Local citizens have more than their personal enrichment as a goal.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
PA high school turns down a $5000 grant from the bogeyman, I mean the NRA, to buy new equipment for the HS rifle team. School board calls it "dirty money".

But then the local community, local business, raises close to $7000 to buy guns for the same HS rifle team. And a go-fund-me page is close to raising another $5000. But that's from local citizens, not the NRA, so it's good, clean, not dirty?

I thought the NRA was just bad, evil citizens who are infatuated with firearms. These local fundraisers are good, pure, local citizens giving dollars to the same cause to buy the same firearm? Or is it that some money for guns is fine and other is not. Or is it the wrong people giving the money.

Or is it the locals wanted their HS rifle team to still have proper firearms equipment and training. If it's this, an Article V push might face more headwinds than some here believe because the money still showed up somehow from the local, everyday citizenry.

No matter what, it's a fascinating case study so far.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...am-gets-big-donation-after-nra-grant-rejected
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The NRA made their bed. Why is that difficult to understand? They're getting everything they deserve and it's only going to get worse, not better.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The NRA made their bed. Why is that difficult to understand? They're getting everything they deserve and it's only going to get worse, not better.
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Let's hope so, but we have to drive the stake in now while we can, before the gen pop gets bored and goes back to watching Roseanne.
 
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Kepler said:
Let's hope so, but we have to drive the stake in now while we can, before the gen pop gets bored and goes back to watching Roseanne.
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A majority of us understand now that they are NOT a gun safety organization. They are a lobbying organization for gun manufacturer's. Sure, the 33% will never believe that, but the rest of us will. Anyone with a functioning cortex.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
A majority of us understand now that they are NOT a gun safety organization. They are a lobbying organization for gun manufacturer's. Sure, the 33% will never believe that, but the rest of us will. Anyone with a functioning cortex.
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The 33% don't matter, in anything. They have become part of the physical landscape we have to deal with; they aren't responsive to reason or even reality. They are the wholly-owned farm animals of their malevolent masters.

The easiest way to deal with them is to wake up the entire 67%. Then we can push them onto their reservations and contain them as a pernicious menace to public health. They can have their 30 senators and 140 Members in perpetuity, and even establish their apartheid theocracies in the failed states they call home. The Founders gave us the tools to make sure these dumbf-cks never threaten anyone but themselves and never interfere with our lives again.
 
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Kepler said:
The 33% don't matter, in anything. They have become part of the physical landscape we have to deal with, they aren't responsive to reason.

The easiest way to deal with them is to wake up the entire 67%. Then we can push them onto their reservations and contain them as a pernicious menace to public health. They can have their 30 senators and 140 Members in perpetuity, and even establish their apartheid theocracies in the failed states they call home. The Founders gave us the tools to make sure these dumbf-cks never threaten anyone but themselves and never interfere with our lives again.
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Oh, they matter. They've figured out how to maximize their power. The supposed 67% hasn't learned anything yet.
 
The Sicatoka said:
PA high school turns down a $5000 grant from the bogeyman, I mean the NRA, to buy new equipment for the HS rifle team. School board calls it "dirty money".

But then the local community, local business, raises close to $7000 to buy guns for the same HS rifle team. And a go-fund-me page is close to raising another $5000. But that's from local citizens, not the NRA, so it's good, clean, not dirty?

I thought the NRA was just bad, evil citizens who are infatuated with firearms. These local fundraisers are good, pure, local citizens giving dollars to the same cause to buy the same firearm? Or is it that some money for guns is fine and other is not. Or is it the wrong people giving the money.

Or is it the locals wanted their HS rifle team to still have proper firearms equipment and training. If it's this, an Article V push might face more headwinds than some here believe because the money still showed up somehow from the local, everyday citizenry.

No matter what, it's a fascinating case study so far.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...am-gets-big-donation-after-nra-grant-rejected
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I’m really happy they got there in the end. Those kids will have a lot of fun and it’s better than them sitting about playing on their phones.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
PA high school turns down a $5000 grant from the bogeyman, I mean the NRA, to buy new equipment for the HS rifle team. School board calls it "dirty money".

But then the local community, local business, raises close to $7000 to buy guns for the same HS rifle team. And a go-fund-me page is close to raising another $5000. But that's from local citizens, not the NRA, so it's good, clean, not dirty?
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Its certainly 'dirty'. Because the locals are taking the same actions the NRA took - its easy to believe they would support the organizations' original stance had they not been forced to show that they favor the NRA.

Drew S. said:
I’m really happy they got there in the end.
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Looks like the NRA is in good company then.

You do realize that each of the participants on that team just likely had their odds go up of getting killed early?
 
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The Sicatoka said:
PA high school turns down a $5000 grant from the bogeyman, I mean the NRA, to buy new equipment for the HS rifle team. School board calls it "dirty money".

But then the local community, local business, raises close to $7000 to buy guns for the same HS rifle team. And a go-fund-me page is close to raising another $5000. But that's from local citizens, not the NRA, so it's good, clean, not dirty?

I thought the NRA was just bad, evil citizens who are infatuated with firearms. These local fundraisers are good, pure, local citizens giving dollars to the same cause to buy the same firearm? Or is it that some money for guns is fine and other is not. Or is it the wrong people giving the money.

Or is it the locals wanted their HS rifle team to still have proper firearms equipment and training. If it's this, an Article V push might face more headwinds than some here believe because the money still showed up somehow from the local, everyday citizenry.

No matter what, it's a fascinating case study so far.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...am-gets-big-donation-after-nra-grant-rejected
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I don't have a problem with either action. The NRA is a joke, but that doesn't mean we need to shutdown in the school rifle team.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The NRA is a joke, but that doesn't mean we need to shutdown in the school rifle team.
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More a cancer than a joke, but yes.

It's not the guns that are the problem, it's the death merchants who refuse to let the protection of lives get in the way of their profits. The Second Amendment and gun owners have nothing to do with the NRA's agenda. The latter is pure profit. If there was one dollar more in grinding people into dog food the NRA would become the fiercest proponent of their corporations' inalienable right -- nay, duty -- to do that.

Anybody who supports the NRA who doesn't own a gun company is a fool and a pawn.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
Exactly, especially considering the school rifle team is likely using .22 air rifles or something.
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And anyone who can’t see a difference between taking donations from local moms and pops and the NRA is moron
 
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Rifle teams for schools shouldn't be shut down. But I'm not 'cool' with rifle teams as they are not a healthy outcome at the school and going forward in these students lives.

Guns increase the likelihood of death for the gun possessor. They increase the likelihood of death for random people in the vicinity of the gun carrier. And if students decide to keep guns in the future, they increase the likelihood of those in a household with a gun - for children 5 to 11 yo, death is increased 11x. https://www.vox.com/cards/gun-violence-facts/gun-house-death-risk
 
5mn_Major said:
Its certainly 'dirty'. Because the locals are taking the same actions the NRA took - its easy to believe they would support the organizations' original stance had they not been forced to show that they favor the NRA.



Looks like the NRA is in good company then.

You do realize that each of the participants on that team just likely had their odds go up of getting killed early?
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If they’re not involved with drugs or gangs there isn’t much for them to be worried about.
 
5mn_Major said:
Rifle teams for schools shouldn't be shut down. But I'm not 'cool' with rifle teams as they are not a healthy outcome at the school and going forward in these students lives.

Guns increase the likelihood of death for the gun possessor. They increase the likelihood of death for random people in the vicinity of the gun carrier. And if students decide to keep guns in the future, they increase the likelihood of those in a household with a gun - for children 5 to 11 yo, death is increased 11x. https://www.vox.com/cards/gun-violence-facts/gun-house-death-risk
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I’m sure a lot more kids died playing HS football last year than they did during shorting competitions.
 
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