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0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

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ScoobyDoo said:
They needed Clinton to win. Once Trump and Gorsuch were in office the sales dropped. Pretty sad that company gets to take advantage of laws an average citizen cannot.
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Oh right, it couldn't possibly be because they were setup in Ilion NY and the governor effectively said they weren't welcome there. :rolleyes:
 
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And this is why we have a second amendment:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Suggests killing people to take their guns... Daryl Fisher candidate for sheriff in Buncombe County... <a href="https://t.co/pKyPATLx1h">pic.twitter.com/pKyPATLx1h</a></p>— The Red Elephants 🐘 (@RealRedElephant) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealRedElephant/status/977667911811719169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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ScoobyDoo said:
They needed Clinton to win. Once Trump and Gorsuch were in office the sales dropped. Pretty sad that company gets to take advantage of laws an average citizen cannot.
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That's the public excuse. They got bought out by a corporate raider (see Bain) in 2007 and have been sucking the money out ever since. Trump winning accelerated it, but it was inevitable.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
They needed Clinton to win. Once Trump and Gorsuch were in office the sales dropped. Pretty sad that company gets to take advantage of laws an average citizen cannot.
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Nah, they’re victims of the same thing that happened to Toys R Us. I doubt it will effect their operations much but a bunch of the debt holders will be taking a hair cut.
 
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Mr. Santorum, CPR doesn’t work if all the blood is on the ground. For a guy who says some stupid things, Santorum has topped even himself.

Since we all know there will be another mass shooting before election day, if the shooter is reading this and you are bound and determined to shoot someone other than yourself, please consider breaking into the U.S. Capitol Building when congress is in session. Please also limit your targets to those who were elected and leave the innocents alone. We all know you're out there. We all know this is going to happen again. Just leave school children, concert goers, club hoppers and cops just doing their jobs alone. Make your insanity and the current gun laws work for the rest of us. Ideally, you will come to your senses and throw away your guns before you hurt anyone. I'm just sayin' if that doesn't happen...
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Mr. Santorum, CPR doesn’t work if all the blood is on the ground. For a guy who says some stupid things, Santorum has topped even himself.

Since we all know there will be another mass shooting before election day, if the shooter is reading this and you are bound and determined to shoot someone other than yourself, please consider breaking into the U.S. Capitol Building when congress is in session. Please also limit your targets to those who were elected and leave the innocents alone. We all know you're out there. We all know this is going to happen again. Just leave school children, concert goers, club hoppers and cops just doing their jobs alone. Make your insanity and the current gun laws work for the rest of us. Ideally, you will come to your senses and throw away your guns before you hurt anyone. I'm just sayin' if that doesn't happen...
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He also said passengers on the Titanic should have had swimming lessons.
 
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5mn_Major said:
I love the willingness to do a complete mind shift in order to problem solve. Its a total relic.

Former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens : Repeal the Second Amendment

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/461672002/
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I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
 
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Kepler said:
I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
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Nobody seems to realize that the gun control measures that have been put in place on a federal level were found legal by the SCOTUS.

Including the recent "assault weapons" ban- who many thought was a terrible law because it was so vague.

Again, pretty much all of the ideas are similar to all of the legal restrictions put on the rest of the amendments. If you are limited to a 5 round magazine that can only empty that in 5 seconds, you STILL have a gun.
 
Kepler said:
I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
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Repealing the Second Amendment just makes things a lot easier. It’s the hill that the NRA and the ammosexuals fight on, so let’s get rid of it.
 
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"For all those who believe that schools are under siege like never before, it is instructive to take a statistical road trip back in time. ... Over the past quarter-century, on average about 10 students are slain in school shootings annually.

Compare the school fatality rate with the more than 100 school-age children accidentally killed each year riding their bikes or walking to school. Congress might be too timid to pass gun legislation to protect children, but how about a national bicycle helmet law for minors? Half of the states do not require them. There is no NRA — National Riding Association — opposing that." -- James Alan Fox, Lipman Professor of Criminology, Law and Public Policy at Northeastern University, in USA Today, Feb 19, 2018
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...istics-stretching-truth-fox-column/349380002/
 
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Kepler said:
I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
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Interesting thought, though. I wonder if an effort to repeal the 2nd would be divisive in the way the passage of the 13th was.
 
alfablue said:
Nobody seems to realize that the gun control measures that have been put in place on a federal level were found legal by the SCOTUS.

Including the recent "assault weapons" ban- who many thought was a terrible law because it was so vague.

Again, pretty much all of the ideas are similar to all of the legal restrictions put on the rest of the amendments. If you are limited to a 5 round magazine that can only empty that in 5 seconds, you STILL have a gun.
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Would you grandfather existing guns/mags?
 
Jimjamesak said:
Repealing the Second Amendment just makes things a lot easier. It’s the hill that the NRA and the ammosexuals fight on, so let’s get rid of it.
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Can you ever get 2/3 of the Congress, a signature from the President and 2/3 of the States?

I prefer to change the culture rather than change the fouundation.
 
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