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0 Days Since Last Shooting: But the Second Amendment!

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Drew S. said:
I really don’t know how would have time to see that someone was going to run over a pedestrian and get your gun out and start shooting. I don’t necessarily think what they did was wrong but the story doesn’t add up.
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I love the Extra Texas touch that it all took place in an Elementary School parking lot.
 
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Drew S. said:
I really don’t know how would have time to see that someone was going to run over a pedestrian and get your gun out and start shooting. I don’t necessarily think what they did was wrong but the story doesn’t add up.
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While he was running her over.
 
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https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...-mandatory-gun-liability-insurance/624914002/

Duh.

The mass shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas doesn't have to be like all the others.
This time – finally – we can do more than wring our hands and sling accusations.
We can meet in the middle and say: OK. Guns are fine. Americans have a constitutional right to own guns.
But those who decide to own guns must take responsibility.
They must buy mandatory firearm liability insurance.
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Two big benefits of liability insurance
This does two things.
It increases awareness that the gun in your closet has the potential to be used to create death and destruction. That’s a risk that demands liability insurance.
It also creates a source of compensation for those who become victims of gun violence.
Society doesn’t need to be protected from guns. There are legitimate sporting and self-defense reasons for owning a weapon.
Society needs to be protected from gun violence.
Mandatory gun liability insurance won’t do that by itself.
But it would represent a common-sense response that goes beyond the usual painful, pointless arguments that follow massacres like the latest one in a high school in Texas.
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ScoobyDoo said:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...-mandatory-gun-liability-insurance/624914002/

Duh.
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Saddest thing is that the proposed gun control items are really insignificant in solving gun violence.

We need meaningful legislation banning classes of weapons, mandatory in home lock ups and ridding society of the pervasive weaponry of conceal to save significant numbers of lives. None of this conflicts with the second.
 
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Drew S. said:
The only time insurance would apply in a murder would be if someone bought coverage that insured against them being shot. No insurance company is going to pay out for an intentional act.
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Yes, they will. All you have to do is claim self defense.

The NRA describes Carry Guard as a state-of-the-art policy to help gun owners when they use their firearm for 'self-defense' and end up in a “legal nightmare.”

https://thinkprogress.org/insurer-lockton-ends-nra-gun-owner-insurance-5d682b9f36ab/

Note: insurance companies recently left the program.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Explain what? Conceal puts guns where they wouldn't otherwise be.
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A conceal carry permit does not allow me to carry into already statutorily preempted places, so your statement is not wholly accurate.
 
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5mn_Major said:
Yes, they will. All you have to do is claim self defense.

The NRA describes Carry Guard as a state-of-the-art policy to help gun owners when they use their firearm for 'self-defense' and end up in a “legal nightmare.”

https://thinkprogress.org/insurer-lockton-ends-nra-gun-owner-insurance-5d682b9f36ab/

Note: insurance companies recently left the program.
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That’s a different situation than what I was talking about. Any of the cases you are talking about would undoubtedly get litigated and could go either way.
 
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Drew S. said:
The only time insurance would apply in a murder would be if someone bought coverage that insured against them being shot. No insurance company is going to pay out for an intentional act.
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Wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2013/02/21/the-myth-of-gun-liability-insurance/#59fc592c1028
https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/opinions/yang-gun-violence/index.html

Two more articles that support the concept. This is an idea that is LONG past due.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
A conceal carry permit does not allow me to carry into already statutorily preempted places, so your statement is not wholly accurate.
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The average American can't get food without the possibility of being endangered by the presence of a gun. Its accurate enough.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2013/02/21/the-myth-of-gun-liability-insurance/#59fc592c1028
https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/opinions/yang-gun-violence/index.html

Two more articles that support the concept. This is an idea that is LONG past due.
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I say this with all due respect, I don’t think either you or the people who wrote those articles understand who insurance works. It’s not intended to be punitive on the policy holders. The fact that I have or don’t have insurance doesn’t change any sort of lawsuit someone brings against me.
 
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5mn_Major said:
The average American can't get food without the possibility of being endangered by the presence of a gun. Its accurate enough.
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So you're relying upon the truthiness of your statement rather than full-fledged facts. That's mighty Republican of you.
 
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