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0 Days Since Last Mass Killing: Maybe It's the Person, Not the Gun...

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Drew S. said:
Not much of a surprise. Most gun owners are decent people. It would be interesting to see more research into guns that are ‘stolen.’
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You failed to include irresponsible in there somehow. :rolleyes: Super frickin duper irresponsible.
 
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jerphisch said:
You failed to include irresponsible in there somehow. :rolleyes: Super frickin duper irresponsible.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My main beef with gun owners. Too many are irresponsible and don't follow basic safety rules.
 
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Brenthoven said:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My main beef with gun owners. Too many are irresponsible and don't follow basic safety rules.
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Coupled with that, carriers are typically very self centered. Often, they are afraid to go out their front door or cowboys waiting for the opportunity to kill them some injuns. Increased risk for others is of no concern.
 
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Brenthoven said:
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My main beef with gun owners. Too many are irresponsible and don't follow basic safety rules.
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The inability to follow safety rules should not mean that they should be completely barred, especially if exception is given to those who "have the gold".

My biggest concern are these people with fascist tendencies, coupled with the "false flag" events. Once again, "false flag" does not mean that it was faked, nor does it mean "crisis actors". These events actually happen. The true motive behind them, however, are for political gain in trampling rights, by using the human's instinct to fear to their advantage. In these cases, there are more victims than those killed or wounded.
 
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Drew S. said:
Not much of a surprise. Most gun owners are decent people. It would be interesting to see more research into guns that are ‘stolen.’
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Yeah, decent people who can't keep their own **** together.

One of the more concerning findings in the study was that for the majority of guns recovered (62 percent), "the place where the owner lost possession of the firearm was unknown."

"We have a lot of people with a lot of guns," Fabio said, referencing statistics on the large number of guns in circulation. "And some of them aren't keeping track of them for different reasons — maybe because they have a lot of them and they don't use them that often."
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St. Clown said:
Yeah, decent people who can't keep their own **** together.
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See last sentence of my post. The stat they throw out doesn’t really provide any context. I’d be curious what actually happened in those cases. Did someone have their whole house robbed or just a few guns? What is the time period when all these alleged crimes occurred? How many guns over time have these alleged crime victims purchased? I’d bet quite a few of those folks are straw purchasers who haven’t been caught yet.
 
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Drew S. said:
See last sentence of my post. The stat they throw out doesn’t really provide any context. I’d be curious what actually happened in those cases. Did someone have their whole house robbed or just a few guns? What is the time period when all these alleged crimes occurred? How many guns over time have these alleged crime victims purchased? I’d bet quite a few of those folks are straw purchasers who haven’t been caught yet.
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When it's "unknown," like the first sentence of the quote posted from the article, that's not generally a burglary that's wiping out the house; owners will report those guns as stolen. In 62% of those lost/stolen guns, the location of the loss/theft could not be identified by the owners. If I'm carrying a weapon, I'm going to know whether or not it's on my body from the time I strap on the holster to the time I put it in my gun safe at night.

Get your **** together, gun owners.
 
St. Clown said:
When it's "unknown," like the first sentence of the quote posted from the article, that's not generally a burglary that's wiping out the house; owners will report those guns as stolen. In 62% of those lost/stolen guns, the location of the loss/theft could not be identified by the owners. If I'm carrying a weapon, I'm going to know whether or not it's on my body from the time I strap on the holster to the time I put it in my gun safe at night.

Get your **** together, gun owners.
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Do you do anything to the person with an unregistered weapon who fires at a picnic full of kids?

I think we've all lost sight of something that has happened along the way (then again - maybe not). Life, instead of being treated as an asset, is being treated as fungible goods. If we value life, then using a weapon to settle arguments would be greatly diminished.
 
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joecct said:
Do you do anything to the person with an unregistered weapon who fires at a picnic full of kids?
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WTH kind of question is that? Where does that one even originate?
 
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joecct said:
Do you do anything to the person with an unregistered weapon who fires at a picnic full of kids?

I think we've all lost sight of something that has happened along the way (then again - maybe not). Life, instead of being treated as an asset, is being treated as fungible goods. If we value life, then using a weapon to settle arguments would be greatly diminished.
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We've all? Who's out there trying to end Social Security, Medicare, any aspect of a social safety net, and any kind of decent medical care for non-wealthy people?


Why don't we start making the changes there? Ok? Since you value life and all. All life being precious and whatever. :rolleyes:
 
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joecct said:
Do you do anything to the person with an unregistered weapon who fires at a picnic full of kids?
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Yeah, usually, they're arrested and thrown in jail. You mean that doesn't happen?
 
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joecct said:
This is rude and uncalled for. But it is the new normal

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08/07/black-lives-matter-crash-cop-wedding/
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This is also rude and uncalled for. But it is the new normal as well.

https://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/crime_police/article_4489ee48-95f3-11e8-b9f2-c3f1746e0adc.html

*edit* And watch the whole video. Watch the man, who they refused to produce a warrant for, who was put into a life threatening choke hold because he didn't get off his tractor *BECAUSE* they didn't have the paperwork to show him, die because they suffocated him. And refused to administer any medical help to him.
 
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joecct said:
This is rude and uncalled for. But it is the new normal

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2018/08/07/black-lives-matter-crash-cop-wedding/
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Did anyone die?

Then what's the problem. Life appears to matter to you so much so as long as everyone lived and can die of sickness, or whatever old age is there shouldn't be a problem. Cause we never have any money in this country to improve the quality of anyone's life except the 1% anyway.

So, Oxygen and hopefully enough food to survive for everyone should be enough. Let's make sure those babies are born. Let's keep everyone alive as long as we can. The rest of it will sort itself out.
 
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joecct said:
Do you do anything to the person with an unregistered weapon who fires at a picnic full of kids?

I think we've all lost sight of something that has happened along the way (then again - maybe not). Life, instead of being treated as an asset, is being treated as fungible goods. If we value life, then using a weapon to settle arguments would be greatly diminished.
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You've actually touched on the real reason of outrage from the left: "unregistered". The government wants complete control of firearms, a violation of the rights of the 2nd amendment. It is a right, not a privilege. Governments grant privileges, people take rights.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You've actually touched on the real reason of outrage from the left: "unregistered". The government wants complete control of firearms, a violation of the rights of the 2nd amendment. It is a right, not a privilege. Governments grant privileges, people take rights.
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Then where can I buy my tank and my grenades? Cause those are my rights.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Then where can I buy my tank and my grenades? Cause those are my rights.
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You actually can own a tank. Seriously, it's legal. Ammunition might be difficult to procure, but the tank itself is legal.

Grenades are not.
 
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