Michigan Getting a Women's Team?

[Lindsay]

Women's month weekly: The time for Division I women's hockey is now

There were 16 minutes left on the clock. After a game-tying goal at the end of the third period, the United States women’s hockey team forced overtime against Canada in the Olympic gold medal game. A stretch pass traveled the length of the ice before landing on the tape of defenseman Megan...

www.michigandaily.com

Nothing too new here but pretty strong call out of Michigan for not having a team.

 

[Arreis]

Women's month weekly: The time for Division I women's hockey is now

There were 16 minutes left on the clock. After a game-tying goal at the end of the third period, the United States women’s hockey team forced overtime against Canada in the Olympic gold medal game. A stretch pass traveled the length of the ice before landing on the tape of defenseman Megan...

www.michigandaily.com

Nothing too new here but pretty strong call out of Michigan for not having a team.

One statement in the article gives you hope.

“I’m tired of watching Ohio State win,” Ilitch said.

But then later it states they have been exploring this since 1998. That unfortunately makes it feel like all they will do is find excuses not to add a women's team.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

But then later it states they have been exploring this since 1998. That unfortunately makes it feel like all they will do is find excuses not to add a women's team.

The main difference is the exploring of it has just been discussions here and there, now the Regents have funded and completed the feasibility study of it giving them two options. Expand Yost into the parking lot on the south end to accommodate locker, equipment and office space or build an entirely new arena with the idea of housing both the men & women's teams but the idea they would need to or should move the men out of Yost is absurd. They just don't want the cost of operating two separate facilities.

 

[Arreis]

The main difference is the exploring of it has just been discussions here and there, now the Regents have funded and completed the feasibility study of it giving them two options. Expand Yost into the parking lot on the south end to accommodate locker, equipment and office space or build an entirely new arena with the idea of housing both the men & women's teams but the idea they would need to or should move the men out of Yost is absurd. They just don't want the cost of operating two separate facilities.

Still feels like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown.

 

[Lindsay]

Yes it’s another version of “OSU is building a women’s rink”

The addition of Red Berensen is interesting. He was a villain in the narrative for years whether or not that was factual. I wonder what influence or level of interest he has.

Kind of feels like if Ilitch wants it, her family will need to fund it.

 

[Arreis]

Also, how is the NCAA advancing women's hockey by having OSU host regional playoffs in a rink that has 600 seats?

 

[BuckyB]

OSU should be prohibited from hosting ANY NCAA post season games in that dump of a rink.
It’s just flat out embarrassing and not a level playing field for the poor teams that draw that regional.
Michigan will never expand Yost to the south and eliminate parking for the precious football building… NEVER.
The answer is to build a new facility to host the Men and new Women’s hockey teams and the perfect scenario is to acquire the property at the now closed Concordia College on the North Side of campus.

 

[Lindsay]

OSU should be prohibited from hosting ANY NCAA post season games in that dump of a rink.
It’s just flat out embarrassing and not a level playing field for the poor teams that draw that regional.

Agreed. No excuses.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

OSU should be prohibited from hosting ANY NCAA post season games in that dump of a rink.
It’s just flat out embarrassing and not a level playing field for the poor teams that draw that regional.
Michigan will never expand Yost to the south and eliminate parking for the precious football building… NEVER.
The answer is to build a new facility to host the Men and new Women’s hockey teams and the perfect scenario is to acquire the property at the now closed Concordia College on the North Side of campus.

If you don't like it then stay out of it If you want to discuss the arena situation then fine, if you choose to post like a troll then go pound sand!

 

[Lindsay]

If you don't like it then stay out of it If you want to discuss the arena situation then fine, if you choose to post like a troll then go pound sand!

As someone who lives in Ohio and is raising a girl hockey player and a son who plays sports and has every privilege afforded to him I will say it again. The rink is a disgrace. Acceptable short term solution 30 years ago. Disgraceful today. Hope the new prez goes DEI and fixes it.

 

[Arreis]

As someone who lives in Ohio and is raising a girl hockey player and a son who plays sports and has every privilege afforded to him I will say it again. The rink is a disgrace. Acceptable short term solution 30 years ago. Disgraceful today. Hope the new prez goes DEI and fixes it.

Do you know what the female youth hockey levels are in Columbus? Part of me wonders if there actually isn't that much interest in the OSU women's team outside of a hard core 650. I remember that the attendance was not good when they hosted the Ice-Breaker at the Value Center. One would have thought they would be hosting the regional there as well and not the campus rink. The team has accomplished so much but in the football crazy environment it feels like it may be a lost dream that they get an improvement to stage their talents.

 

[Lindsay]

Do you know what the female youth hockey levels are in Columbus? Part of me wonders if there actually isn't that much interest in the OSU women's team outside of a hard core 650. I remember that the attendance was not good when they hosted the Ice-Breaker at the Value Center. One would have thought they would be hosting the regional there as well and not the campus rink. The team has accomplished so much but in the football crazy environment it feels like it may be a lost dream that they get an improvement to stage their talents.

Girls hockey scene is growing. Columbus is Adding a new team almost every year as the girls grow up. They just added another girls 16u team. Don’t know the numbers off hand but it’s been reported in the last year in nhl.com articles.

Cleveland market added a girls developmental team, 4 part time girls teams (supplemental to co Ed) and a new full time girls 14 u team, plus brought back their 16u team in the last 5 years. That is in addition to the previously existing 4 girls teams. Still growing and 2 Olympians are leading the latest evolution of elite girls hockey here, the Cleveland Flames.

I think a rink like Penn state Would make sense at OSU. Put men and women in there, if you can’t give a proper women’s only rink. I acknowledge they won’t fill a 4k rink or anything. More than being a football town, people’s schedules are packed.

Nationwide is used by boys hockey this weekend, Value center (schottenstein) is used for boys and girls wrestling. I don’t think they even carve out the parking lot for women’s hockey fans specifically on this busy weekend they have to compete with other events. Whole thing is just dumb.

 

[Lindsay]

Columbus will have days in there local rinks where it’s girls hockey all day long, and the community is also in the works of building a new rink for one of the AAA programs. So others may know more than me but it’s growing to say the Least

 

[robertearle]

If you don't like it then stay out of it If you want to discuss the arena situation then fine, if you choose to post like a troll then go pound sand!

Honest question, because I don't remember the answer, and it came up talking to people between periods at the UW game today.

If you look online, it will say the capacity is 1200 or some such, but "in reality" it's only 650. I knew the "650" part, and said that to people, but I couldn't explain the discrepancy when they asked.

 

[Arreis]

Honest question, because I don't remember the answer, and it came up talking to people between periods at the UW game today.

If you look online, it will say the capacity is 1200 or some such, but "in reality" it's only 650. I knew the "650" part, and said that to people, but I couldn't explain the discrepancy when they asked.

I believe it was originally 1200 but became 650 after renovations. Could be wrong but remember hearing that somewhere.

 

[BuckyB]

If you don't like it then stay out of it If you want to discuss the arena situation then fine, if you choose to post like a troll then go pound sand!

Only visit when tetanus booster is current

 

[Lindsay]

Would it actually be better for women’s hockey if there was a big ten league? I don’t know the answer but at a minimum as I said previously it would be nice to get some of the matchups on the real B1G network on tv.

Would that kill the wcha or is there some realignment that could happen whereby everyone keeps their auto bid but the non B1G wcha teams have a chance of winning a championship. Same goes for AHA but to a lesser extent since it’s just one team? You’d have a bunch of league championships and then a B1G team would win national championship each year in my vision.

Awkward for me to say this as it may look like sour grapes. On the one hand maybe there is prestige of having big ten teams in your hockey conference. On the other hand based on resources they really shouldn’t lose ever. Is that what we want for eternity (some of you can skip this question).

I have a hard time imagining a non B1G team winning the natty at this point…

Or are there reasons to keep the b1g tens intermingled with others? Are they propping something up?

I realize it’s not even possible until more big ten teams join.

 

[Windchill22]

Using the Men as a case study:
As a very much unofficial (my counting) - using 2013 as the cutoff (the year Big Ten Conference formed) - Before that time - Big Ten Teams have 22 of 66 National Championships - so about 1/3. Since then - Big Ten teams have not won 0. The leftover teams from the WCHA Plus a couple Michigan teams did however do pretty well: Winning 7 of the 11. So by this case study - forming a Big Ten Tournament would improve the chances of a National Championship of UMD, Minnesota State St. Cloud State, St. Thomas and Bemidji State considerably.

 

[wildfire]

Would it actually be better for women’s hockey if there was a big ten league? I don’t know the answer but at a minimum as I said previously it would be nice to get some of the matchups on the real B1G network on tv.

Would that kill the wcha or is there some realignment that could happen whereby everyone keeps their auto bid but the non B1G wcha teams have a chance of winning a championship. Same goes for AHA but to a lesser extent since it’s just one team? You’d have a bunch of league championships and then a B1G team would win national championship each year in my vision.

Awkward for me to say this as it may look like sour grapes. On the one hand maybe there is prestige of having big ten teams in your hockey conference. On the other hand based on resources they really shouldn’t lose ever. Is that what we want for eternity (some of you can skip this question).

I have a hard time imagining a non B1G team winning the natty at this point…

Or are there reasons to keep the b1g tens intermingled with others? Are they propping something up?

I realize it’s not even possible until more big ten teams join.

Can't put women's hockey on the main B1G channel. How would we get the 146th showing of B1G football in 60 of Purdue vs. Rutgers?

A B1G on the women's side with the 2 Michigan schools/Penn St would definitely increase visibility. Heck bring in Syracuse too. At least they are a name people outside of hockey recognize.

 

[robertearle]

Can't put women's hockey on the main B1G channel. How would we get the 146th showing of B1G football in 60 of Purdue vs. Rutgers?

I'm pretty sure they have carried a couple Wisconsin-Minnesota-Ohio State games in the past. And they televised the NCAA Final Four for three years, including the 2018 final between non-B1G Clarkson vs Colgate. :-o