119th congress: must be at least 75 to chair a committee!

[bronconick]

They've decided on affordability for 2026. Anyone with half a brain knows that by November that will be the last thing anyone is thinking about. All people will be thinking about is two things, Greenland and when does the police knock on my door so they can deport me.

You think Americans who probably can't find North America on a map care about Greenland when they go to the polls? Really? I'll give you ICE, but foreign policy sits about 5th unless something like 9/11 pops up

 

[ScoobyDoo]

You think Americans who probably can't find North America on a map care about Greenland when they go to the polls? Really? I'll give you ICE, but foreign policy sits about 5th unless something like 9/11 pops up

Yeah, they're the same ones that couldn't find Iraq on a map.

 

[Kepler]

Sorry dog, vote blue no matter who is how we got into this mess, it’s not going to get us out of it.

Then give me another solution.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

We are offered 2 methods by history:

1) Take over / threaten / bribe the Dems to do the people's will.
2) This.


Look around. See any rebels? I don't either.

We have to colonize the mechanisms of power or use violence. Those are the choices. I posit Americans are too fat, lazy, and self-absorbed to ever be rebels. Never have been; never will be. We are a lethargic mass of obesity in both body and mind.

 

[Handyman]

Stolen from Bluesky:

GOP: We are sending armed perverts to assault families. Even babies. We are in open warfare against all things good.

Schumer: People call him TACO, but these days it's getting hard to afford one! Can you chip in $5 today to help us hold Mr. Trump accountable for these soft shell economic policies?

10/10 no notes!

 

[Jimjamesak]

Then give me another solution.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

We are offered 2 methods by history:

1) Take over / threaten / bribe the Dems to do the people's will.
2) This.


Look around. See any rebels? I don't either.

We have to colonize the mechanisms of power or use violence. Those are the choices. I posit Americans are too fat, lazy, and self-absorbed to ever be rebels. Never have been; never will be. We are a lethargic mass of obesity in both body and mind.

Easy, don’t vote and let them lose.

If they’re not going to do anything to help when they’re in power, then they don’t need to be there.

 

[rufus]

We can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Affordability does not elbow out fascism as a focus. In fact fascism argues "give up your rights we'll make you fat and rich." Affordability is a rearguard attack on the false promises of fascists.

And just when do you suppose they'll get around to mentioning the fascism?

How many need to be killed before it gets a mention? Just give me a number.

 

[rufus]

You think Americans who probably can't find North America on a map care about Greenland when they go to the polls? Really? I'll give you ICE, but foreign policy sits about 5th unless something like 9/11 pops up

They don't need to know where it is on a map. All they need to know is that America, at least in recent years, is not in the business of starting wars to take over other countries. Especially other countries we view as allies. And you can see by polling that a lot of Americans feel this way.

 

[rufus]

Easy, don’t vote and let them lose.

If they’re not going to do anything to help when they’re in power, then they don’t need to be there.

My personal method is to vote for anyone running against my Dem representative in the primary. Hopefully, they win. If they don't, I hold my nose and vote for the Dem. And then try again.

 

[Handyman]

And just when do you suppose they'll get around to mentioning the fascism?

How many need to be killed before it gets a mention? Just give me a number.

They will get around to it when right after they are done ignoring all of us that got doxxed because of Charlie Kirk and lost our jobs...

Its hilarious that the Dems literally ran on Democracy and stopping fascism and they cant even be bothered to do even basic performative theater as federal thugs destroy a Blue Stronghold. Even when it polls really well...nah dont want to ruffle feathers. Stick to affordability the donors don't mind that cause the Dems eont fix shit anyways.

Like Warren is right its a fucking tragedy that no Dem President or Congress (or both) have raised the minimum wage...but thats on all of them and it ranks well behind human beings being kidnapped, beaten, tortured, deported and killed as Gestapo goes door to door. Sorry but the price of eggs is irrelevant right now.

 

[Slap Shot]

Yeah, they're the same ones that couldn't find Iraq on a map.

They can't find Minnesota on a map. Kep maybe too.

 

[bronconick]

They will get around to it when right after they are done ignoring all of us that got doxxed because of Charlie Kirk and lost our jobs...

Its hilarious that the Dems literally ran on Democracy and stopping fascism and they cant even be bothered to do even basic performative theater as federal thugs destroy a Blue Stronghold. Even when it polls really well...nah dont want to ruffle feathers. Stick to affordability the donors don't mind that cause the Dems eont fix shit anyways.

Like Warren is right its a fucking tragedy that no Dem President or Congress (or both) have raised the minimum wage...but thats on all of them and it ranks well behind human beings being kidnapped, beaten, tortured, deported and killed as Gestapo goes door to door. Sorry but the price of eggs is irrelevant right now.

It's simpler than that. They ran last year almost exclusively on "stopping the fascist and saving democracy" which then lost to a fascist complaining about the price of groceries. You now want them to run exclusively on stopping the fascist again. Is that going to work now? It didn't in November 2024. That's probably while they're hedging.

 

[Kepler]

And just when do you suppose they'll get around to mentioning the fascism?

How many need to be killed before it gets a mention? Just give me a number.

SMH.

The Dems aren't why we lose.

This is why we lose.

 

[psych]

Then give me another solution.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

We are offered 2 methods by history:

1) Take over / threaten / bribe the Dems to do the people's will.
2) This.


Look around. See any rebels? I don't either.

We have to colonize the mechanisms of power or use violence. Those are the choices. I posit Americans are too fat, lazy, and self-absorbed to ever be rebels. Never have been; never will be. We are a lethargic mass of obesity in both body and mind.

Correct on all of this.

SMH.

The Dems aren't why we lose.

This is why we lose.

Equally incorrect on all of this…since…

My personal method is to vote for anyone running against my Dem representative in the primary. Hopefully, they win. If they don't, I hold my nose and vote for the Dem. And then try again.

This is my method, and I’m assuming yours, based on what we have at our current disposal. rufus isn’t the problem. Follow your own golden rules you love to set out on display, and recognize no one on here outside of maybe three posters are actually the fucking problem.

 

[rufus]

SMH.

The Dems aren't why we lose.

This is why we lose.

WTF does that even mean? Cause I expect my elected representatives to actually DO something once they're in office?

Answer the fucking question. When do the Dems even mention the third world goon squads disappearing citizens on our streets?

And it's acceptable to you that they don't? Bigger goals and such to worry about?

 

[Slap Shot]

WTF does that even mean? Cause I expect my elected representatives to actually DO something once they're in office?

Answer the fucking question. When do the Dems even mention the third world goon squads disappearing citizens on our streets?

And it's acceptable to you that they don't? Bigger goals and such to worry about?

No, but if they're not in office it doesn't matter. How are so many of you so fucking clueless? What's the fucking alternative?

 

[rufus]

But they ARE in office. They keep sitting on their asses doing nothing, they might not be.

The people are looking for someone, anyone, to stand up and fight back against this administration, not keep their heads down, don't cause a fuss, and hope Republicans get voted out of office. Hope is not a plan.

If Democrats want to retake control of government, give people a reason to vote for them. Something a little more concrete than, "but we're not Trump".

 

[Handyman]

It's simpler than that. They ran last year almost exclusively on "stopping the fascist and saving democracy" which then lost to a fascist complaining about the price of groceries. You now want them to run exclusively on stopping the fascist again. Is that going to work now? It didn't in November 2024. That's probably while they're hedging.

I dont want them to run on anything...I want them to stand up for something. Tell me, if you are a neutral observer what is it that the Dems stand for? Before and during the Shutdown it was Health Care until they sold out on that one. Now its the vague term "affordability". Cool...

The voters hate Dems because they do exactly what they are doing right now...going with the winner. No one that has any say in that party cares one iota about any issue except what puts money in their coffers and keeps them in their cushy jobs. Try getting a hold of them some time.

This is not some wonky debate about tax levels for chistsakes people are being fucking shot and killed with zero recourse. Children being gassed, citizens amd legal immigrants put in fucking concentration camps. Take a goddamned stand for once. Because right now they are on the wrong side of history and this bullshit gambit is going to destroy whats left of this country.

Then again, this is the perfect party for a sleezeball fascist wannabe like Gavin Newsom to lead. He definitely would sell out Minnesota to win an election...just like Dem Leadership is.

 

[Handyman]

SMH.

The Dems aren't why we lose.

This is why we lose.

We lose because we never actually force the Dems to do anything. The Left gives up its power in order to win but never holds the Center to account.

If) The Centrists are why we lose.
If) The Centrists control the Democratic Party
Then) The Democrats are why we lose

You are old enough to know this. You are also smart enough to know that we are in a fight for the soul of this country, and the Dems are riding the fence hoping to stall out a win...which means they are nothing but spineless collaborators.

Sorry man, but whatever this version of the Democratic Party is not who is going to save Democracy...in part because they honestly don't care. Fascism will be fine as long as they keep their jobs. The Senate Dems have been proving that for a year.

 

[Handyman]

Correct on all of this.

Equally incorrect on all of this…since…

This is my method, and I’m assuming yours, based on what we have at our current disposal. rufus isn’t the problem. Follow your own golden rules you love to set out on display, and recognize no one on here outside of maybe three posters are actually the fucking problem.

Am I one of them? Because I wont lie at this point I kind of want to be!

 

[Kepler]

WTF does that even mean? Cause I expect my elected representatives to actually DO something once they're in office?

Answer the fucking question. When do the Dems even mention the third world goon squads disappearing citizens on our streets?

And it's acceptable to you that they don't? Bigger goals and such to worry about?

I apologize for the ad hom, rufus; I was tired.

Not voting out of spite does not work. That's all it means.

Many times in history, Left voters have flounced because the Left-Center and Center and Center-Right parties have not been fighting hard enough against the Far Right party. It has always ended with the Far Right party consolidating more power. Often, the Far Right eventually burns the whole democratic edifice and becomes all-powerful.

Here is what I want to do as a Far Lefty. Be a Far Lefty in public. Give the Left-Center party cover to propose and, in power, enact watered-down Left policies, and more importantly unwind Far Right policies. When the Far Left flounces they make the Schumer types the far left of the Overton window, and the voters think that Centrism is as "extreme" as Nick Fuentes. And that is why we lose.

Our job is to stretch the coverage. We run deep so the Dems can catch passes under the coverage. We run thirty yard routes so the Dems can make 10 yard gains.

If we can colonize the Democratic party and take over the leadership and run deep routes with half the electorate at our beck and call, great. Let's work on that in the primaries. That is what FDR did. But in the mean time, we have a role and we have no choice unless you know ten thousand A-class Marine snipers and some nitroglycerine experts.