Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Not great. Should be dominating. Isn't.
We could go into why that may be (Conmy as a linemate, Greg Brown) but regardless, it's a mess over in Chestnut Hill.
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UNH- How Far West Do We Go?
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We could go into why that may be (Conmy as a linemate, Greg Brown) but regardless, it's a mess over in Chestnut Hill.
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Good luck with Conmy. You are seeing what most of us that watch UNH all the time already knew. He is a one dimensional player, only wants to shoot. He has two "moves," a one-timer or drive to the middle of the ice. He has no interest in going into corners or getting back on defense.
Yeah I’ve been there. Suffered through last weekends games. Will be in Lowell Friday and the Whit Sat. Will look for you. Or come up in between I’m always there.
You can’t talk about Sir Ryan Conmy or Corky will be upset. The question does beg to be asked, if he was that much of a loss why isn’t he carrying BC?
Maybe second line because Felix did not register a single SOG on Saturday night?Thanks great post! As far as 'boring' goes for me it was a reflection of a typical UNH UVM game. Agree with your points about Sat being a better game...and that is a team of 14 new players who need to gel / acclimate to D1. Felix...beast...why isn't he on the top line?!?
I still think Conmy was a big loss, especially given our inability to score goals.
HockeyRef
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Hmm maybe. But I can think of a top line player who hasn't scored a goal yet this season...
HockeyRef
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Agree
Here's hoping this improves..coz he's not walking through that door lol.Conmy scored 29 goals for UNH during as a freshman and sophomore playing for the least talented team in Hockey East. As Meathead, Buford and Elwood would say, "thank God he's gone".
HockeyRef
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Man...remember when guys like TyK and Potsy...Angus...who would put up 50 points in a season??? Sigh.
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I never said he couldn't score. He has an NHL caliber shot, he just doesn't have any interest in playing an all around game. I have also witnessed a fair amount of his shots get blocked and turned into an odd man rush because he HAD to shoot the puck. Personally, I think we miss Marty Lavins much more right now. The heart and leadership he has is huge and I'd take a team full of Marty Lavin's all day, over RC.
Lavins is a special player - not the most skilled but tons of leadership and plays a smart, high quality brand of hockey. Every team would love him. He's the modern day Savo Mitrovic, a late 80s /early 90s fan favorite. Savo was an excellent player that did whatever it took to help the team. His freshman year UNH needed better two way hockey and Savo was a terrific defensive forward. Sophomore year Savo put up 30 goals. A team first kid all the way.
Savo's Henry Carr and UNH teammate and best friend was Dominic Amodeo. Amodeo was first tier sniper. Terrific player and first class person. Amodeo wasn't quite as talented on the defensive end. Amodeo was extremely valuable and was an All American (I'm pretty sure).
Excellent teams have snipers as well as wonderful all around team first guys. Lavins is Mitrovic. Conmy is Amodeo. He's the guy that converts power play opportunities. He's the guy other teams have to game plan against. Certain posters on here said he was a prima donna and they were part of a group outside and inside of the program that were glad to see him leave. Such a shame.
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I remember the Mitrovic and Amodeo days. Yes, Lavins is special, thank you St. Cloud, for wanting him to play another year of juniors. Anyways, this team should have plenty of talent and goal scoring, game 1 out in East Lansing was an absolutely incredible effort from the top line to the bottom. I haven't seen a UNH team play like that in a lot of years. Four goals on Augustine is saying a lot. We need Oliver to figure it out, he is passing up shots. I know NCAA is a bit different for him, but he didn't score 50 goals in 62 games last year by accident. He had an absolute laser to the top corner against Maine in the exhibition. Hopefully he will get his first on Friday night and adds the confidence that he can score at this level. Everyone certainly puts in the effort for a full 60 minutes every game and here is hoping the hard work will pay off.
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Jellsville USA
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This is a great take. Agree 100%. As the lines get sorted and the new boys adjust to NCAA hockey style we are going to have one hell of a team. Conmy just didn't fit here, whatever the reason doesn't much matter at this point.
NESN changed things up several years ago so the schools pretty much are paying to have their games on TV, pretty much an infomercial for "NH's Flagship Research University". They provide the production, talent, content between periods, and lets not forget Natalie. Obviously some of the bigger games are able to pay their own advertising freight so they are separate.
UNH stepped up and did this for several years but fewer ad dollars in Durham these days. I guess you could also say less talent, fewer wins, inferior coaching and lower general enthusiasm as well.
UNH stepped up and did this for several years but fewer ad dollars in Durham these days. I guess you could also say less talent, fewer wins, inferior coaching and lower general enthusiasm as well.
Definitely missing someone on pace for 10 goals and zero assists playing with the #7 pick in the draft. I would rather have another year of Cronin who scored more goals with less offensive playing time.
So, MS7 got his own contract renewed for three years but was only able to get the UNH NESN contract renewed for one year?
Chuck Murray
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Been away for the last few days ... UNH's inability to complete a (home) sweep over one of the league's perennial cupcakes does not bode well for what's to follow for the remainder of this season. I'm on the record as saying that UNH has to come out of early January at least 4-5 games over .500 to have a realistic shot at accomplishing anything, and now we're approaching the quarter post of the RS, still one game under .500. The 'Cats really need to find their form over the next 7 games (Lowell home & away, UConn ditto, and RPI, Union and Bentley on the road) with something like 5 out of 7 W's to climb up to two games over .500 before the UMaine away weekend pops up as a HUGE challenge. I hate to say this, but I think it's FAR more likely we'll see UNH still languishing at or near .500 when the meat of the HEA schedule arrives in mid-January, than we'll see them on the rise several games over .500 at that key point of the season.
Yes, UNH has a LOT of new skaters, and it may indeed take more time for them to sort out the line-up, pairings, etc. But to differing degrees, isn't that pretty much the same for most if not all D-1 programs? There is a lot left in front of us this season, but splitting a pair of white-knuckle home games against one of the league's lesser lights sounds an ominous tone (for me), and I just don't see this group OR its coaching staff being up to the challenge of stringing together enough wins to be a serious factor for destinations like March in Boston, much less the big tournament later on in early Spring.
WIS assessment at the RS quarter post = leaning pessimistic
Current take on the Conmy situation at BC, since it was raised by Nick ... Conmy is a 5th round pick, which may register prominently these days in Durham NH, but makes him a JAG on the current BC roster. His scoring was an absolute asset for UNH the last two seasons, and it's probably fair to say that Conmy was overperforming his draft level while he was a big fish in the little pond that is the current state of the UNH program. He transferred to BC of his own free will, not because of some unkind comments posted on an Internet message board, but rather because it was the opportunity of a lifetime to try to continue developing his game for the next level. So far, it seems perhaps that the 5th round pick has returned to his draft level, and is no longer overperforming as a would-be 3rd or 4th rounder. That doesn't mean his game might not come around later this season, or even next season? But it does mean that where at UNH, he had the luxury of patience from his coaches to work through slumps and blips ... at BC, if he can't establish himself as a regular on a top six forward assignment, there will be no shortage of competition for that space, and a LOT less patience if slumps continue, and other players step in and flourish.
As far as discussion of his previous fit in the UNH program, it's a moot issue now, isn't it? Knowing some of the posters who posted comments on that front, I have a decent idea who their sources are, and I would dismiss the accuracy of their postings and feedback at your peril. But at the end of the day, it's just a huge red herring, isn't it? It sounds to me akin to the usual teenage angst involved when a young couple splits, followed up by the post-mortem of who broke up with whom first etc. ad nauseum. As if any of it matters. UNH won nothing with Conmy, and is on track to do the same again without Conmy. Conmy was a one-dimensional player, and that got him picked in the 5th round, was that same one-dimensional player at UNH, and seems to be that once again with BC.
Much ado about a player who probably was more important to UNH, and apparently has a LOT more to do to make BC's mid-career recruitment worthwhile.
Yes, UNH has a LOT of new skaters, and it may indeed take more time for them to sort out the line-up, pairings, etc. But to differing degrees, isn't that pretty much the same for most if not all D-1 programs? There is a lot left in front of us this season, but splitting a pair of white-knuckle home games against one of the league's lesser lights sounds an ominous tone (for me), and I just don't see this group OR its coaching staff being up to the challenge of stringing together enough wins to be a serious factor for destinations like March in Boston, much less the big tournament later on in early Spring.
WIS assessment at the RS quarter post = leaning pessimistic
Current take on the Conmy situation at BC, since it was raised by Nick ... Conmy is a 5th round pick, which may register prominently these days in Durham NH, but makes him a JAG on the current BC roster. His scoring was an absolute asset for UNH the last two seasons, and it's probably fair to say that Conmy was overperforming his draft level while he was a big fish in the little pond that is the current state of the UNH program. He transferred to BC of his own free will, not because of some unkind comments posted on an Internet message board, but rather because it was the opportunity of a lifetime to try to continue developing his game for the next level. So far, it seems perhaps that the 5th round pick has returned to his draft level, and is no longer overperforming as a would-be 3rd or 4th rounder. That doesn't mean his game might not come around later this season, or even next season? But it does mean that where at UNH, he had the luxury of patience from his coaches to work through slumps and blips ... at BC, if he can't establish himself as a regular on a top six forward assignment, there will be no shortage of competition for that space, and a LOT less patience if slumps continue, and other players step in and flourish.
As far as discussion of his previous fit in the UNH program, it's a moot issue now, isn't it? Knowing some of the posters who posted comments on that front, I have a decent idea who their sources are, and I would dismiss the accuracy of their postings and feedback at your peril. But at the end of the day, it's just a huge red herring, isn't it? It sounds to me akin to the usual teenage angst involved when a young couple splits, followed up by the post-mortem of who broke up with whom first etc. ad nauseum. As if any of it matters. UNH won nothing with Conmy, and is on track to do the same again without Conmy. Conmy was a one-dimensional player, and that got him picked in the 5th round, was that same one-dimensional player at UNH, and seems to be that once again with BC.
Much ado about a player who probably was more important to UNH, and apparently has a LOT more to do to make BC's mid-career recruitment worthwhile.
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