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Expedia is apparently bending lots of people over on credits they issued for trips canceled due to the pandemic. Say they can't find your original tickets & won't honor the credits, even if you have emails that they say they will. My dad one of many to recently discover this.

I get why 3rd party travel sites like that exist (they target inexperienced travelers). Pulling stuff like that may very well kill the golden goose however. This is NOT the time to screw with your clientele, especially given that we are going to be traveling a lot less as a whole for god knows how much longer...
 
Expedia is apparently bending lots of people over on credits they issued for trips canceled due to the pandemic. Say they can't find your original tickets & won't honor the credits, even if you have emails that they say they will. My dad one of many to recently discover this.

You can only skin the sheep once.
 
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/11/business/nobel-prize-economics-winner-2021-intl/index.html

London (CNN Business)A trio of economists were awarded the Nobel Prize on Monday for showing that precise — and surprising — answers to some of society's most pressing questions can be gleaned from experiments rooted in real life.


David Card was recognized by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences for groundbreaking work on minimum wages, immigration and education. He showed, using a natural experiment — where researchers study situations as they unfold in the real world — that increasing the minimum wage does not necessarily lead to fewer jobs.

The other half of the prize was awarded to Joshua Angrist and Guido Imbensfor demonstrating how precise conclusions about cause and effect can be drawn from natural experiments.

A Nobel Prize! I'm told you cannot argue with the results of those in any way.
 
And I'm pretty sure that we get to cross-apply that to UBI, universal healthcare, infrastructure, and other unrelated topics to claim that our position must be right.

No, you can only use it in situations where all respectable authorities and experts in the field disagree with you, that's the only time when "OMG NOBEL" is a magical amulet or some shit. I mean, come on, there are rules here.
 
Not sure to put this here, in the GEAR GRINDING thread, or the TRAVEL thread:

Last night I drove to Columbus, OH for the US/Costa Rica WCQ. On the way, I decided to grab dinner around 9pm in some random town on I-70 East of Indianapolis. It was my usual travel routine for a quick bite: Just watch the signs for a town with 4-5 common restaurants on the sign along with a couple hotels/gas stations (showing that the place is more than 6 people basically). This was at 9pm EST.

Pull off the highway into a town with basically all your common fast food options.

Burger King was up first: CLOSED w/ Staffing note on door. OK =(
Then pull up to a Wendy's. SAME >=(
Third time was a Taco Bell and they were open, but drive through only. Just three young kids inside that I could see.

Food was good, but the realization that I absolutely need to start planning meal stops ahead of time really grinds my gears. I just don't like traveling like that and I guess I always took the fact that one could find fast food 24/7 for granted I suppose. The times are a-changin kids....
 
Not sure to put this here, in the GEAR GRINDING thread, or the TRAVEL thread:

Last night I drove to Columbus, OH for the US/Costa Rica WCQ. On the way, I decided to grab dinner around 9pm in some random town on I-70 East of Indianapolis. It was my usual travel routine for a quick bite: Just watch the signs for a town with 4-5 common restaurants on the sign along with a couple hotels/gas stations (showing that the place is more than 6 people basically). This was at 9pm EST.

Pull off the highway into a town with basically all your common fast food options.

Burger King was up first: CLOSED w/ Staffing note on door. OK =(
Then pull up to a Wendy's. SAME >=(
Third time was a Taco Bell and they were open, but drive through only. Just three young kids inside that I could see.

Food was good, but the realization that I absolutely need to start planning meal stops ahead of time really grinds my gears. I just don't like traveling like that and I guess I always took the fact that one could find fast food 24/7 for granted I suppose. The times are a-changin kids....

So why do you believe this is happening?

(I've heard all the claims from one political POV. Looking for something new.)
 
That's what I was wondering. Personally I think everyone with kids has switched to one worker family models cause childcare is so expensive. So, that pulls a lot of folks out of the workforce.

That's an answer that I can believe.

And the problem is double-headed: child care is expensive with the impact you point out; child care workers are some of the lowest paid so the jobs are open so folks with kids stay home because child care is not available.
 
Maybe they're getting better jobs? I hear that lots of companies in all sorts of fields are having trouble finding people.

So, as you point out, it's more than fast food. But if folks are getting better jobs, why are there the open jobs you point to?

Where'd all the workforce go?

Is it what Scoob says (I can believe that), or is there even more to the story?
 
That's what I was wondering. Personally I think everyone with kids has switched to one worker family models cause childcare is so expensive. So, that pulls a lot of folks out of the workforce.

I think it's a combination of a lot of factors. First, we were going to be facing a bit of a worker crunch anyway as the boomer generation moves through retirement. Even two or three years ago I was attending meetings where I'd see workforce representatives here in Minnesota talk about anticipated job openings far outpacing any population growth expected.

Oddly enough, I think for some families or individuals the pandemic actually relieved some financial stress. There was simply no way to spend money, so pretty much all discretionary spending went away. Coupled with some temporary relief in the form of payments from the government, unemployment supplements and relief from rent, it gave some workers a little breathing room to make job decisions based upon the desirability of the job, child care, etc...

I also think that there is a segment that has chosen not to go back because they are afraid of the pandemic. Plus, I think that people have realized that with adjustments to their lives, they can maybe live on less.

I guess we'll see over the next few years.
 
So, as you point out, it's more than fast food. But if folks are getting better jobs, why are there the open jobs you point to?

Where'd all the workforce go?

Is it what Scoob says (I can believe that), or is there even more to the story?

Well, a lot of them, especially fast food jobs, come here from other countries on temporary work visas, those were first heavily curtailed by your hero Wee Donnie One-term's administration, and then pretty much killed completely due to the pandemic.

Also, as he said, perhaps they've figured out during the pandemic they don't need as much money to get by. They were working from home, taking care of the kids, not eating out or spending money on luxury items, maybe they found that they preferred it that way.

Finally, quit being such a fuckiing disingenuous troll douchebag.
 
I think it's a combination of a lot of factors. First, we were going to be facing a bit of a worker crunch anyway as the boomer generation moves through retirement. Even two or three years ago I was attending meetings where I'd see workforce representatives here in Minnesota talk about anticipated job openings far outpacing any population growth expected.

Oddly enough, I think for some families or individuals the pandemic actually relieved some financial stress. There was simply no way to spend money, so pretty much all discretionary spending went away. Coupled with some temporary relief in the form of payments from the government, unemployment supplements and relief from rent, it gave some workers a little breathing room to make job decisions based upon the desirability of the job, child care, etc...

I also think that there is a segment that has chosen not to go back because they are afraid of the pandemic. Plus, I think that people have realized that with adjustments to their lives, they can maybe live on less.

I guess we'll see over the next few years.

All reasonable conclusions to draw. A lot of close to retirement people probably said screw it, I'm done. We have a wealth of people wanting to come here to work. Too bad we apparently don't have the people to vet them, and don't have a population to welcome them here. Instead we want to build walls and piss on the Statue of Liberty.
 
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