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Gun Control 1: Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang

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Drew S. said:
It was on the ballot in Maine in 2016 and didn’t pass.
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Two things, based on your "definition"- that should not have even been on the ballot. So pull your head out of your rear end on what you think democracy is.

Second- on a national level, a majority of people support gun control.

You still don't get it that guns ONLY design criteria is their ability to kill whatever you are shooting at. And the fact that you so easily accept kids dying for your sick fascination with such deadly things is sick. Can you look the parents of dead kids in their eyes and tell them that you want your guns over their lives? Because that's where we are now.

We've made negative progress in the killing of people with your favorite toy. And you just keep thinking that it's better that you have your toys over their lives.
 
Drew S. said:
Not sure if this is real or not but apparently the headline for a story on NYT’s website was ‘The mass shooting places Michigan St back in an uncomfortable national spotlight.’
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You should feel proud that the shooter was able to get a gun and put MSU back into the negative spot light. It's exactly what you want.
 
MichVandal said:
Second- on a national level, a majority of people support gun control.
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MichVandal said:
FWIW, I looked it up, and it's a pretty tight majority- gallup says 54% and that is down from 2019. I'm betting some of the right think it's an appropriate way to get rid of the people they hate.
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To the contrary, I think it's some the left recognizing that:

1. Any gun control in America is a pipe dream, particularly with SCOTUS now packed for the foreseeable future
2. Jan 6th proved that a substantial number of the "#UltraMAGA" crowd are willing to commit acts of violence to get their way
3. If we can't regulate guns, then the next best option may be to arm ourselves in self-defense, just in case
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
To the contrary, I think it's some the left recognizing that:

1. Any gun control in America is a pipe dream, particularly with SCOTUS now packed for the foreseeable future
2. Jan 6th proved that a substantial number of the "#UltraMAGA" crowd are willing to commit acts of violence to get their way
3. If we can't regulate guns, then the next best option may be to arm ourselves in self-defense, just in case
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I see your point, but at the same time, how many human sacrifices do we need? People should be getting tired of being the laughing stock of the entire world in terms of gun violence.

And as thing emerge, there's some mental questions for the shooter, so with all of the previous talk about mental health for guns- when will the gun lobby come up with a workable solution to that? As it stands, it's just "shooter was troubled, but we didn't expect a shooting like that" and we just go on. Heck, we even have parent's buy guns for their troubled kids.

People are getting tired of watching kids die. Well, everyone but drew and his people.
 
MichVandal said:
I see your point, but at the same time, how many human sacrifices do we need? People should be getting tired of being the laughing stock of the entire world in terms of gun violence.

And as thing emerge, there's some mental questions for the shooter, so with all of the previous talk about mental health for guns- when will the gun lobby come up with a workable solution to that? As it stands, it's just "shooter was troubled, but we didn't expect a shooting like that" and we just go on. Heck, we even have parent's buy guns for their troubled kids.

People are getting tired of watching kids die. Well, everyone but drew and his people.
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Like the tweet posted earlier today said, Sandy Hook was when it was decided there would be no change.

20+ children slaughtered and the response from half the country was that the president faked his tears and a portion of that group claimed it didn't even happen.
 
MichVandal said:
I see your point, but at the same time, how many human sacrifices do we need? People should be getting tired of being the laughing stock of the entire world in terms of gun violence.

And as thing emerge, there's some mental questions for the shooter, so with all of the previous talk about mental health for guns- when will the gun lobby come up with a workable solution to that? As it stands, it's just "shooter was troubled, but we didn't expect a shooting like that" and we just go on. Heck, we even have parent's buy guns for their troubled kids.

People are getting tired of watching kids die. Well, everyone but drew and his people.
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If you think guns are bad wait until you find out about fentanyl.
 
Drew S. said:
If you think guns are bad wait until you find out about fentanyl.
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Fun fact, Fentanyl is illegal in the US.

And remind me when it was used as a mass murder weapon.

But I will also point out that fentanyl isn't designed specifically to kill whatever it's shooting at, unlike guns.
 
Fentanyl? I’ve heard of it. I work on a unit where half of the teenage children I’m taking care of have died overdosing on fentanyl. Some, more than once. Without Narcan, they’re six feet under. It’s currently deadlier than guns. I’m not sure on what planet it’s impossible to simultaneously fight the opioid epidemic and gun epidemic together, but your trolling suggests it’s this one. That’s too bad.
 
MichVandal said:
Fun fact, Fentanyl is illegal in the US.

And remind me when it was used as a mass murder weapon.

But I will also point out that fentanyl isn't designed specifically to kill whatever it's shooting at, unlike guns.
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Last year in Maine there were 30 homicides with around half by firearm and over 500 fentanyl deaths. Which one do you hear more about? And the scale of destruction isn’t even close.
 
Well then we should be sure to do nothing about either, then.


What a stupid point. "We can't do anything about this horrible thing because we aren't doing enough about this other, arguably worse thing".
 
Drew S. said:
Last year in Maine there were 30 homicides with around half by firearm and over 500 fentanyl deaths. Which one do you hear more about? And the scale of destruction isn’t even close.
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Does anyone ever tell you you have good thoughts and ideas?
 
Mass shootings, and more of them, are what a lot of people in this country want. That has to be it, right? Why else would it keep happening?

There is a surefire way to slow them down, and it's pretty simple actually. Simple to conceive, not necessarily to carry out. I'm not saying it is ever going to happen (it isn't ever going to happen actually) because too many people have been brainwashed into thinking idiotic things about their firearms. At the end of the day the only reason it happens here and no where else in the world, is guns are too ridiculously easy to get and to carry. It's not complicated. Make them difficult to get and virtually impossible to carry legally outside of your own property (or on someone elses who gave you permission, like to hunt, with like, a regular gun that is made for hunting ducks or quail or deer, not for hunting dozens of humans).

Anyone who thinks its going to change in our lifetime, well I am glad you are an optimistic person, but boy are you naive. The first time we had a mass shooting come on the heels of another mass shooting, we should have done what needed to be done. That we didn't told me we never will. And it also told me mass shootings, and more of them, are what a lot of people in this country want. Because again, if that wasn't what they wanted, why does it keep happening?

Repeal (the second amendment), ban (almost all guns and certainly all that can fire rapidly or more than a few rounds without stopping to re-load) and confiscate (all those that are banned). That's what I'd do.
 
But we’re the only country where god specified he wanted us all to have guns. We’re different
 
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