I am not watching the women's worlds (we don't have the cable channel), but I'm following along on twitter. I hate thug hockey! Why is the US taking so many penalties? Is it because we're young? I haven't kept track throughout these preliminary games, and I can't find individual stats, but we definitely need to clean this up before the next round. I'm sure Murphy isn't responsible for all of these. "What in the World?"
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2023 Womens Worlds and U18 Women’s Worlds
- Thread starter Lindsay
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Tons of unintentional tripping calls and a too many skater penalty against the US. Not thuggery, just some bad luck, nerves, etc.
The college players look good for America.
Poulin is unreal, best player on the ice.
Ha, had the same thought.
The minimalist way to design the tourney to increase stakes of Pool A play would be to require the lower-seeded team to beat the higher-seed team twice in the championship round, which would effectively mean a best-of-3 US-Canada series in most tournaments with the first game coming in pool A play. It's not much different from double-elimination tournaments which are common in NCAA baseball or softball, but I can't recall precisely that format before.
But as today showed, these games are always meaningful when they happen at World Championships, even if it's only seeding at stake.
Right, good point. And of course the key international wins over US and Canada were also tied to excellent goaltending, Martin in 2006 and Raty (almost twice) in 2019.
I was looking up for my own reference: Raty stopped 43 of 45 in the 2019 World semifinal win over Canada, and 50 of 51 in the "rules 186 and 183ii shootout loss" vs. the US in the final. Martin stopped 37 of 39 vs the US in the 2006 Olympic semifinal and posted a shutout in the shootout.
Hockeybuckeye
Well-known member
I think the USA coach made a mistake in the shootout by having the "star" players shoot again. The Canadian coach did the same thing but the player who didn't shoot earlier got the winning goal. Just my two cents.
I said before Hillary Knight missed her third attempt that I thought she looked tired. When she scored on the first one, she went in hard and fast and beat the netminder cleanly. Her last two attempts were both slower....
Puckluck89
New member
I would also add some of the shooters tried to get too fancy and lost the puck. Yes, the goalies were great, but there were some weird attempts and fumbles.
maybe I’m wrong but she’s never struck me as a great shootout person. Her first goal was sick and I know Wrobo thinks she’s great (and she is!) but I would have taken my first Knight shootout goal and been satisfied with it. Or…maybe you just don’t do that to a great one. I don’t know.
I was hoping Janecke would shoot. We know she can score in Badgers.
ZedLeppelin
Motormouth
I wondered the same thing - is there an unspoken rule regarding the seasoned veterans on a national team? I suppose she could always tell the coach to let whoever take the next one in her place, if she's not feeling particularly electric.
I would love to see that. She's shown her skills during a game, but I'd love to see what she brings one-on-one, when she can do whatever she wants.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
That got the old hair up on the back of the neck....
TovarishchLisa
(Comrade Fox)
QFs:
Canada-Sweden
USA-Germany
Finland-Czechia
Switzerland-Japan
Hungary and France relegated - we don't know who'll replace them until August as the D1A tournament was postponed. That'll be a fun tournament though, feels pretty wide open. China obviously has beefed up with its NA imports, Denmark looking to bounce right back up, Slovakia potentially bringing through Nela (among other promising young players) for her first senior Worlds, Austria is usually pretty competitive, Norway has been on the brink for a bit. Netherlands....thanks for coming?
Canada-Sweden
USA-Germany
Finland-Czechia
Switzerland-Japan
Hungary and France relegated - we don't know who'll replace them until August as the D1A tournament was postponed. That'll be a fun tournament though, feels pretty wide open. China obviously has beefed up with its NA imports, Denmark looking to bounce right back up, Slovakia potentially bringing through Nela (among other promising young players) for her first senior Worlds, Austria is usually pretty competitive, Norway has been on the brink for a bit. Netherlands....thanks for coming?
We don't hate America. It's just with Canada being so close, it gives us a slight advantage in recruiting so the parents don't have to travel so far to see their daughter play.
We had Harmon (#15) and now we have Winn (#8). When we go South of the Border, we go for very good D.
We're not getting the Rattrays, Mercers, Gabels, and Gigueres anymore. That hurts when you havent scored in your last 3 NCAA games.
Is Desbiens hurt? I see she didn’t dress. Good thing for Canada that her former Wisconsin Badger teammates scored all 3 goals (Turnbull-1, Nurse-2) to lead them to victory
I do not know but I know that I saw a look of regret and panic in the canadian coach's eyes after Sweden scored with 9 seconds in regulation and just before the 3-on-3 OT. It was probably the regret of leaving her off this game and the knowledge that Sweden would have won if the OT turned into a shootout.
If Desbiens played in this game the score would probably have been 4-0 or 5-0 Canada. It is amazing how much more confident the team is when she is in net. She now has a 21-0 winning record in Olympic and World championship play which is quite an astounding statistic. Clearly the best goalie to ever play for the program ever.
Subject to her performance in the gold medal game, Desbiens should probably receive some kind of tournament award but the IIHF will likely give their goalie awards to a non-North american goalie who played a good but losing game against USA or Canada, as per the usual politics. I prefer it going to someone who has displayed skill and consistency over the course of the whole tournament and not just in any one game. But I do not make the rules. I look forward to the gold medal game.
Canada's PP looks predictable and at times, dreadful. Needs fixing.
Should have saved a few for Canada!
Hockeybuckeye
Well-known member
Barnes & Bilka looking good, can't wait to see them on the ice for Ohio State!