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Climate Change 3: Whatever you do don't call it a twatwaffle

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dxmnkd316 said:
Edit: whoa, that article is grim as F
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It is.

China is forced to divert water from comparatively wet regions to the drought-plagued north
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Given China's history and social organization, I'm honestly surprised they don't just up and march their population at bayonet-point to where the water is. It would be a very Han solution. (Can we not have them dominate the planet, please? If you thought white people were terrible...)
 
It’s going to get very ugly. India won’t stand back and allow the dams to be built without a fight.
heck indias own water agreements with Pakistan may run into issues.

the new fiction book termination shock lays this all out nicely, just finished book this week
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
It’s going to get very ugly. India won’t stand back and allow the dams to be built without a fight.
heck indias own water agreements with Pakistan may run into issues.

the new fiction book termination shock lays this all out nicely, just finished book this week
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Egypt, Sudan, and Ethiopia are about to have the same thing. I've seen plenty of analyses that it could wind up in a megadeath regional war.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
It’s going to get very ugly. India won’t stand back and allow the dams to be built without a fight.
heck indias own water agreements with Pakistan may run into issues.

the new fiction book termination shock lays this all out nicely, just finished book this week
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Had no idea that was Neal Stephenson. I love his ideas but get turned off by his writing. I wish he'd hand his stuff off to a better writer (c.f. Turtledove, Harry). But his concepts are brilliant.
 
Kepler said:
Given China's history and social organization, I'm honestly surprised they don't just up and march their population at bayonet-point to where the water is. It would be a very Han solution. (Can we not have them dominate the planet, please? If you thought white people were terrible...)
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Chinese racism makes American racism look casual. Which is not to trivialize America's race problems, but North Asian cultures are just that much worse. They treat their darker South Asian migrant workers as practically sub-human - expendable grunt labor. Same for the Emiratis.
 
Kepler said:
Had no idea that was Neal Stephenson. I love his ideas but get turned off by his writing. I wish he'd hand his stuff off to a better writer (c.f. Turtledove, Harry). But his concepts are brilliant.
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This book is also brilliant conceptually, it’s a bit long for many I suspect but I liked it.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
This book is also brilliant conceptually, it’s a bit long for many I suspect but I liked it.
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Poul Anderson does this, too. Just because you have great ideas doesn't make you a great writer. How many SFers are both? Verne, Lem, Sturgeon, Pohl, Ellison, LeGuin. Vonnegut if you want to count him.

Almost all are great ideas, meh writing (Wells, Asimov, Heinlein, Gibson, Dick, McCaffrey, Farmer, Clarke, Niven, Butler, Rucker, Anderson, Stephenson, Robinson, Bradbury (fight me), Silverberg, Vogt, Gaiman).
 
Well, the two books I would urge anyone to read on climate change are-

the nutmegs curse by amitov ghosh. Astoundingly well written book about how the demand for nutmeg violated people and the earth and he relates it all to current events. On a lot of top books of 2021 lists too

my other old Fave is the Water Will Come by Jeff goodell. Learning how Miami came to be built the way it was is fascinating
 
SonofSouthie said:
2021 was Boston's warmest year on record. The top 3 were in 21, 12, and 10.
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I'd put more creedence in it if the sensor wasn't bad for the first 8 months of the year. They quietly recalibrated it down 2 degrees in August. Yes, it was still warm, and Providence had their warmest year on record too, but the Boston record is highly suspect.
 
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