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Wisconsin Hockey 21-22: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine

ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Okay, this is absurd
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I'm curious about this. Do you guys never give the good coaches more than a one year extension? So Mark Johnson as an example. How many years were left on Granato's deal before this one year extension? Better to not have a lame duck coach for recruiting purposes but I saw BC give Steve Addazio a one year extension for the sole purpose of lowering his buyout. He was then fired the following year.
 
The normal practice here is the coaches are on what amount to a rolling 4-year deal, with an annual one-year extension.

Not giving him an extension would lower the cost of buying him out to fire him.
 
Bright side: Wisconsin athletic department just gained 6 seats, center ice, lower bowl that they can sell to someone who has had too much thinner to understand they’re getting screwed over as fans.
 
J.D. said:
That has to be a lowering of the buyout as part of the one year extension. I'm convinced. He's getting the Harbaugh treatment. Jim proceeded to have a monster year.
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I'm NOT holding my breath, son. More NHL money for next year, YES!!
 
J.D. said:
That has to be a lowering of the buyout as part of the one year extension. I'm convinced. He's getting the Harbaugh treatment. Jim proceeded to have a monster year.
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Unfortunately I don’t think that’s going to happen. Totally different situation. We don’t have near the talent Michigan had in football. And TG talked about 21-22 centering around defense and they finished in the bottom 10 of 59 teams.
 
Sorry, that wasn't a prediction from me. This could go like Steve Addazio at BC. One year extension with lower buyout and then fired after the next season.
 
J.D. said:
Better to not have a lame duck coach for recruiting purposes...
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This is the biggest scam coaches and agents ever perpetrated - these phony one year extensions do nothing for recruiting and everything for the coaches' pocket books...

UW obviously bought into this myth and theyre keeping up 'appearances', but if they want to fire him next year they will - it will just cost them more. No objective recruit or advisor will be fooled by the circumstances.
 
Dan said:
This is the biggest scam coaches and agents ever perpetrated - these phony one year extensions do nothing for recruiting and everything for the coaches' pocket books...

UW obviously bought into this myth and theyre keeping up 'appearances', but if they want to fire him next year they will - it will just cost them more. No objective recruit or advisor will be fooled by the circumstances.
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I think you missed the part about his contract being reworked. It's not gonna cost them more.
 
J.D. said:
I think you missed the part about his contract being reworked. It's not gonna cost them more.
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Oh, of course it will - one way or another. Most certainly to some degree financially, even if the deal was reworked not to be prohibitive.

That said, you're smart enough to know my post was a general response to your assertion that coaches needed, and schools must offer, an extra year to avoid lame duck status and hindering recruiting. Coaches want extensions for a number of reasons, notably job security and money earned, none of which include fears of losing respect or recruits. Those are just the reasons they float to get the former (because that's what scares fans, thus influencing administrators)...

If you can't coach or recruit on a one year deal, I've got news for you - you can't coach or recruit.

Look no further than Mel Pearson, who apparently worked on a one year deal this season and managed a great deal of success, while building one of the best classes in the country.

Wisconsin wasn't ready to fire Granato - that's their decision, perhaps influenced by his willingness to sell out an assistant or perhaps because they won a Big Ten title just two seasons ago - but there was no benefit to UW to extend him if theyre wavering on their future together. That benefit entirely shifts to the coach (deserved or otherwise). As it always does in these situations.
 
That was not an assertion on my part. Just that that seems to be the consensus in sports. I am not against going with a lame duck. I was pissed when BC gave Steve Addazio an extra year just to lower the buyout. My guess would be the same will happen with Granato. He'll be fired after next season and the whole charade was a waste of time.
 
To add on to that, who is going to want Strobel's job now? The writing is on the wall. Unless UW forces someone on Granato who they think can take over as HC. It's looking like that's what BU did when they brought in Jay Pandolfo as an assistant this year. Now he's probably gonna get the HC job.
 
TDM is digging into the language changes in TG's revised contract. Apparently he filed an open records request to see it but since both parties have not signed it yet that request was denied. Maybe things are not as bleak long term, one has to think the revised contract gives UW an easier out. One thing I had forgotten about is if he get fired and gets another job, that amount he's getting paid reduces the amount UW owes him.

The problem with retaining him is Watts defines a successful season next year? Is .500 ok since he is implementing a new recruiting philosophy that he has had no time to essentially start? Or is next year a freebee due to this recruiting philosophy change will have had zero impact on next year?
 
Timothy A said:
TDM is digging into the language changes in TG's revised contract. Apparently he filed an open records request to see it but since both parties have not signed it yet that request was denied. Maybe things are not as bleak long term, one has to think the revised contract gives UW an easier out. One thing I had forgotten about is if he get fired and gets another job, that amount he's getting paid reduces the amount UW owes him.

The problem with retaining him is Watts defines a successful season next year? Is .500 ok since he is implementing a new recruiting philosophy that he has had no time to essentially start? Or is next year a freebee due to this recruiting philosophy change will have had zero impact on next year?
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Pretty good article from Jeff Potrykus in Journal Sentinal.

https://twitter.com/jaypo1961/status...33280261316608

https://twitter.com/jaypo1961/status...46416921350145 Hit up his Twitter for some comments from the article.

It sounds like he is getting a do-over, which is wrong IMO. He also stresses competing in the Big7, when frozen fours and national titles should realistically be the goal.
 
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