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BU 2021-22: Albie's Great Adventure

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defkit said:
87-88: I remember those WCHA games - I believe the turnaround coincided with Peter Fish, relegated to third string over John Bradley and Bryan LaFort, seeing time. Was that the same season he beat Robb Stauber 1-0? Or was that 88-89?
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Peter Fish was the #1 goalie in '87-'88. He started 27 of 34 games that season. John Bradley started the other 7 games and came on in relief of Fish twice. Fish was in net for both the Wisconsin and North Dakota games, but Bradley started the next three. I believe Fish was injured, but in any event he then returned and played every minute the rest of the way except for the game vs D3 Bowdoin.

Bryan LaFort arrived in '88-'89 and was the #2 goalie behind #1 John Bradley. I think Fish was injured again, but in any event he started his first game at Wisconsin on 6 January and then took over as the #1 goalie on 17 January vs NU and played every minute the rest of the season (going 6-9). The third game in that stretch was the 1-0 win vs Minnesota. It wasn't quite as much of a goaltenders duel as it might seem however, as Fish only faced 17 shots and Stauber only faced 19 shots.

Sean
 
One benefit of sucking is you only lose one player to the World Junior Championship. No private "Sabo" jet needed. : )

BU Hockey: Irrelevant
 
bu98 said:
Hell, we're only 3-2-3 this season when leading after 2 periods. We're 28-12-7 leading after 2 since Albie got here, and that includes 6-0-1 last season. That means we're only winning 60% of the time when we have the lead with 20 minutes to go. How about BC? 42-10-2 when leading after 2 the last 4 years. (EDIT to add: PC, the team used in the blown leads example? 42-9-5 in the last 4 years when leading after 2.)
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May I ask where you got these records? I had started to compile the game data from the 2020-21 and 2021-22 seasons and after you posted this I worked on all the BU, BC and PC games. Unfortunately, I have different numbers for all three teams so I'm concerned I have made numerous mistakes entering the data. Here are the records I have:

[TABLE="width: 273"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, colspan: 3"]Boston University[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2018-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.875[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2019-20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.808[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2020-21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.938[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2021-22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.714[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]Total[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]0.838[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, colspan: 2"]Boston College[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2018-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.808[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2019-20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.978[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2020-21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.844[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2021-22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.917[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]Total[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]0.897[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67, colspan: 2"]Providence[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2018-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.944[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2019-20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.833[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2020-21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]0.875[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl65"]2021-22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]1.000[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"]Total[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]48[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]0.904[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


If my data is correct then BU hasn't had the lead as often as BC and PC and they haven't done as well as those 2 teams, but their record is not nearly as bad as your posted.

Sean
 
Carmine Scarpaglia said:
Also, not for nothing but those BU jerseys tonight were some of the ugliest jerseys I've ever seen. I'll bet when you buy that jersey at the bookstore, you'll get a free bowl of soup.
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Awful jerseys - what do you suppose that whole get up cost? It wasn’t just jerseys - pants, gloves, goalie pads, socks etc

not that it really matters but fingers crossed we never see those again.
 
ericredaxe said:
Awful jerseys - what do you suppose that whole get up cost? It wasn’t just jerseys - pants, gloves, goalie pads, socks etc

not that it really matters but fingers crossed we never see those again.
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BU is one of those schools that should be wearing mostly the same thing with small tweaks from here to the end of time. I've been having this fight with the UConn fans on some of their logo marks. Get something classy, run with it forever. Build generations around it. If you got a chicken don't fuck it, simple as.
 
Section 6 said:
That was 88-89’. The upset of Minnesota was certainly a highlight as was the improbable comeback against Northeastern in the 1st round of the Beanpot (gave National Champs Harvard a fight in the Beanpot championship too). Overall, not a good season but you could see there was some talent developing.
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ah yes, peter fish was the beanpot mvp that year
 
ericredaxe said:
Awful jerseys - what do you suppose that whole get up cost? It wasn’t just jerseys - pants, gloves, goalie pads, socks etc

not that it really matters but fingers crossed we never see those again.
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I didn't mind them all ... for one game. It was supposed to represent the uniforms that BU worn its first-ever game. In its 100th season, that is fine. It was a unique, clever touch.
We're not likely to see them again.

The school has a contract with Under Armor, who likely made them at little or more likely no cost.

BU has had three different versions of their homes and aways -- the standard 'Detroit Red Wings,' the more streamlined and the old school with "Boston University" spelled out.

I prefer the 'Wings' jersey had the Terrier logo on the front, instead of number, like it was in the 1970s.
That was changed from logo to numbers because of the unusual situation of the press box at Walter Brown arena being located behind a goal, and the broadcasters and media not being able to read numbers when the team skated towards them. They should have returned the logo when they moved to Agganis Arena.
 
bu98 said:
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/st...tails,20212022

Are you sure you didn't cross up 'leading BY 2' vs 'leading AFTER 2 (Periods)'
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Thanks for the link. Since collegehockeystats stopped adding detailed game summaries I’ve been using CHN game summaries (except for exhibition games), so we are working from the same source data.

I had already double checked BU’s 2021-22 games, but I checked again. BU won 4 games when leading after 2 periods: the 2nd SHU game (led 3-1, won 4-1); the MC home game (led 6-3, won 8-6); and bothe UNH games (led 2-1, won 3-1 and led 1-0, won 2-1). Since the CHN stats only show 3 wins I looked at the CHN stats for BU, BC and PC for the past 4 seasons and it turns out that it is CHN that has a problem with their ‘lead after 2’ stats. Here are the CHN reported records and actual records (based on looking at every game summary):

[TABLE="width: 768"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, colspan: 4"]Boston University record after 2 periods[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, colspan: 4"]Boston College record after 2 periods[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, colspan: 4"]Providence record after 2 periods[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]2018-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2018-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2018-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]8-5-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-9-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]5-4-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]8-4-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-13-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-5-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]17-4-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-6-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-2-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]10-1-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-15-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]6-2-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]10-2-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-16-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-4-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]17-0-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-6-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]5-6-3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]2019-20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2019-20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2019-20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]11-5-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-5-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-3-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]19-0-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-6-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-2-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]10-3-4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-6-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]6-3-2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]9-1-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-9-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-3-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]22-0-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-6-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-2-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]15-1-5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-6-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-5-1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]2020-21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2020-21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2020-21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]6-0-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-2-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]11-3-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-3-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-0-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]5-1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-6-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-2-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]7-0-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-4-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]13-2-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-3-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]7-1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-8-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-0-4[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]2021-22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2021-22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]2021-22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-2-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-4-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-3-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-3-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-1-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-1-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]CHN[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]10-1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-1-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-5-0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-1-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-6-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-2-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]5-0-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-1-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]3-4-1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Actual[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]11-0-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]1-5-0[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]2-2-0[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


So thankfully I didn’t make numerous mistakes, although I may have made a few (I hope not). I also looked at their ‘lead after 1” records and 11 of the 12 matched mine. I doubled checked the one that was off and the error is again with CHN.


Here are the 4 season totals for the three teams:

[TABLE="width: 768"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl68, colspan: 4"]Boston University record after 2 periods[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, colspan: 4"]Boston College record after 2 periods[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, colspan: 4"]Providence record after 2 periods[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Leading[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Trailing[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Tied[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"]Totals[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]30-3-7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-34-4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]11-8-5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Totals[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]50-4-4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]0-26-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]13-11-3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66"]Totals[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]50-2-7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]4-25-2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]11-13-8[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


Interestingly, BU is actually better than BC when trailing after 2 periods, although worse than PC. BU is also better than BC and PC when tied after 2 periods. The difference in results is that BC and PC both have more games they have led after two periods, while BU has more when trailing after two periods.

Sean
 
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ericredaxe said:
Awful jerseys - what do you suppose that whole get up cost? It wasn’t just jerseys - pants, gloves, goalie pads, socks etc

not that it really matters but fingers crossed we never see those again.
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I noticed that the pants were just shells (you could tell based on all the wrinkles in them), likely worn over their regular pants, which would drop the price significantly.
 
Harry Cleverly said:
That was changed from logo to numbers because of the unusual situation of the press box at Walter Brown arena being located behind a goal, and the broadcasters and media not being able to read numbers when the team skated towards them. They should have returned the logo when they moved to Agganis Arena.
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I never knew that! Thanks for the tidbit.
 
Okay so, which former BU players in the AHL or Europe are playing well this season? We all know there won't be any current Terriers representing the US.
 
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