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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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Here's a graph for Jebbie, and Drew and his "1/3 hospitalized are vaccinated" shtick. It's for NYC, but I'm sure it applies fairly closely everywhere else.
Does this graph imply some people are neither? To me it looks like about 75% are unvaccinated and 10% are vaccinated.
rufus
rock and roller
rufus
rock and roller
Give it time.
MichVandal
Well-known member
Uh, what about the remaining 15%?
I see something like 80/100k Un, and <10/100k vacc. About 8-10:1.
That’s what I was asking.
ericredaxe
Veteran
The two will not add up to 100%. That is showing the number of people per 100,000 who are hospitalized both unvaccinated and vaccinated. Its not a percentage of total hospitalizations.
So best estimates as I can see from the graph is that appx 75 out of 100,000 unvaccinated people are hospitalized vs appx 10 out of 100,000 vaccinated people.
MichVandal
Well-known member
Yea, it's not a graph of percentages, it's a graph of hospitalizations per 100,000 people.
What’s the point of it than?
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Did the doctors who birthed you ever figure out how to give the proper amount of oxygen to the baby during the process?
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
It's going to keep mutating. That's what it does.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
MichVandal
Well-known member
Really? It clearly shows the massive increase in hospitalizations over the last few weeks. And that the increase for the UN is more than the vaccinated. The spread looks like it goes from about 5:1 to 7-8:1
A percentage graph would not show the Omicron increase of hospitalizations.
rufus- where did you find that graph? It would interesting to see the % change, to see if there is a separation as it looks.
To actually convey some useful information rather than obfuscate by looking at percentage of hospitalized people who are vaccinated. Since you really seem to be this dense:
Imagine that there was only 1 unvaccinated person in all of the US, and he is not hospitalized due to COVID. Then 100% of the people in the hospital due to COVID are vaccinated. Does that tell you ANYTHING about the effectiveness of the vaccine? No, it does not. Maybe there's only 1 of out of the 320M vaccinated people in the hospital - if so, then that's a pretty darn effective vaccine. But if there are millions, then maybe the vaccine isn't so good. Either way, it's still true that 100% of hospitalized are vaccinated.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Could it be just be a person with both viruses?
"Both" = the same virus.
I don't know, phisiologically, if you can be infected with two strains/variants of the same virus at the same time. Perhaps one of our clinical folks might know?
It could be a lab error, as no one else is reporting it and several are pointing out methodological flaws. It could be a person who was infected with both at the same time and they mutated together, but usually mutations come from a single virus and follow a single lineage.
A new variant with the infectiousness of omicron but the severity of Delta/previous would be... bad...
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