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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I had it a year ago September before vaccine and had a ton of neuro issues. It’s been an expensive blast
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Hopefully all better at this point.

Our experience was once raccines had started rolling out but I was not eligible yet. No idea how it got into our house - no known exposure. For me it was feeling cruddy and achy for a few days. My older son ran a fever for a night, my younger son had virtually no symptoms. Inexplicably my wife never got it when the rest of the family did but, looking back, we think she may have had it back in Feb of 2020 about a month before everything hit the fan here in the US. She was as under the weather as I have ever seen her for several days. Of course at the time we never even considered it could be Covid since it was not in the US yet - no way of knowing but it might help explain why she did not get it when the rest of us did.
 
ericredaxe said:
Hopefully all better at this point.

Our experience was once raccines had started rolling out but I was not eligible yet. No idea how it got into our house - no known exposure. For me it was feeling cruddy and achy for a few days. My older son ran a fever for a night, my younger son had virtually no symptoms. Inexplicably my wife never got it when the rest of the family did but, looking back, we think she may have had it back in Feb of 2020 about a month before everything hit the fan here in the US. She was as under the weather as I have ever seen her for several days. Of course at the time we never even considered it could be Covid since it was not in the US yet - no way of knowing but it might help explain why she did not get it when the rest of us did.
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I never had a cold or flu symptom really- had paresthesia, horrible GI distress, fever every afternoon
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Of course you don't. You haven't watched SNL since 1976 or any late night program since 1991, because that's when they stopped being funny. ;-)
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I've been watching SNL pretty regularly since 2016 (and it's been okay) but I couldn't tell you who any of the cast are except Keenan.

Never watched late night unless Colbert / Stewart counts. Not to knock it; just not my thing.
 
ericredaxe said:
I am also not able to read the article, but I can say with 100% certainty that the remote learning and the lack of social interaction with peers was much more damaging to my kids than when they actually contracted covid... and we are a family that have been fortunate enough to be in a position where one of us could take extra time off to help with school, take them hiking, skating, skiing etc etc and overall keep them occupied as best we could. That is not the same as being in school and simply having the opportunity to play with or hang out with friends. I can't imagine what it was like for kids in less fortunate families who were in a situation where the parents had no choice but to head out to work and leave the kids at home with spotty internet and a school issued chromebook all day (or worse in even less fortunate situations)
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Right, but you're one of the people who doesn't get really, really sick. If your kid gives it to another kid in his class who brings it home to his parent who has cancer, that's kind of a fucking problem. If your kid contracts covid, they should be held out of school regardless of whethe3r they are symptomatic or not.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Of course you don't. You haven't watched SNL since 1976 or any late night program since 1991, because that's when they stopped being funny. ;-)
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How would you know SNL is no longer funny if you don't watch? Not only has this season been quite good, but go back and watch a full episode their heydeys - every episode had a few turd skits.
 
Slap Shot said:
How would you know SNL is no longer funny if you don't watch? Not only has this season been quite good, but go back and watch a full episode their heydeys - every episode had a few turd skits.
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Yes, this. The best thing about the episodes with no obvious all star (like Kate, who has been gone lately) is they don't build every skit as either (1) their showcase or (2) consolation for the also rans. It's more even. Also, the host becomes more of the star -- several hosts this year have gotten a real work out and been up to it.
 
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Slap Shot said:
How would you know SNL is no longer funny if you don't watch? Not only has this season been quite good, but go back and watch a full episode their heydeys - every episode had a few turd skits.
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It was a joke at Kep for always stating things should’ve never changed past 1960. The AL and NL should only be eight teams, the worst thing the NHL did was cross the Mississippi, etc.

SNL has been good this year. I think it helps that Trump is out. When the absurd becomes reality, suddenly SNL isn’t satire as much as a paraphrased recap. That loses its steam after awhile. It also helps Kate has been out. Allowed for more of the cast to be the main in sketches.
 
ericredaxe said:
Hopefully all better at this point.

Our experience was once raccines had started rolling out but I was not eligible yet. No idea how it got into our house - no known exposure. For me it was feeling cruddy and achy for a few days. My older son ran a fever for a night, my younger son had virtually no symptoms. Inexplicably my wife never got it when the rest of the family did but, looking back, we think she may have had it back in Feb of 2020 about a month before everything hit the fan here in the US. She was as under the weather as I have ever seen her for several days. Of course at the time we never even considered it could be Covid since it was not in the US yet - no way of knowing but it might help explain why she did not get it when the rest of us did.
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I'm glad you guys didn't have serious issues!

My girlfriend also got really sick around that time. Similar-to-Covid symptoms. Who knows, it may have been. But considering how insanely transmissible even the OG version was, I have a real hard time believing that Covid was circulating so widely here in January/February 2020 before it was properly noticed. Unless you travel to China, anyway. That was a particularly bad winter for upper respiratory infections; I got sick twice actually, in December and January.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It was a joke at Kep for always stating things should’ve never changed past 1960. The AL and NL should only be eight teams, the worst thing the NHL did was cross the Mississippi, etc.

SNL has been good this year. I think it helps that Trump is out. When the absurd becomes reality, suddenly SNL isn’t satire as much as a paraphrased recap. That loses its steam after awhile. It also helps Kate has been out. Allowed for more of the cast to be the main in sketches.
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I kinda thought I was the target; I appreciated it.

The worst thing the NHL did was cross the 40th parallel.
 
So, Kep--are you still planning to fly to Nodak for the series? Looks like they will have a stretch of warm weather up there, which should help. Whatever happens on the ice, I'm sure you will find your contacts with Daks intellectually stimulating.
 
I saw on the news here in MA that they're re-opening more mass vaccination sites, like Fenway. Which is good. But I'm wondering if they should be opening more testing sites for the time being. I also wonder if they should open those satellite treatment sites, like when they had beds at the Convention Center, to help with alleviating hospital overcrowding.
 
Swansong said:
I'm glad you guys didn't have serious issues!

My girlfriend also got really sick around that time. Similar-to-Covid symptoms. Who knows, it may have been. But considering how insanely transmissible even the OG version was, I have a real hard time believing that Covid was circulating so widely here in January/February 2020 before it was properly noticed. Unless you travel to China, anyway. That was a particularly bad winter for upper respiratory infections; I got sick twice actually, in December and January.
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I suspect it was here, too- I had odd symptoms after a trip in Feb 2020. Pretty mild, but a cough that really didn't go away, and I thought I had a mild fever, too. The cruise we were on prohibited anyone from Asia on the ship if they entered the country less than 2 weeks from the sailing.

Then again, way before that, my wife had a really bad cough for a couple of months after a trip to Puerto Rico in July '19. We wonder if that was an early version.

Based on all of the timing that has been figured out, there's no way that it contained in China when they found it- it had to have flown out well before anyone was aware of how bad this was.
 
MichVandal said:
I suspect it was here, too- I had odd symptoms after a trip in Feb 2020. Pretty mild, but a cough that really didn't go away, and I thought I had a mild fever, too. The cruise we were on prohibited anyone from Asia on the ship if they entered the country less than 2 weeks from the sailing.

Then again, way before that, my wife had a really bad cough for a couple of months after a trip to Puerto Rico in July '19. We wonder if that was an early version.

Based on all of the timing that has been figured out, there's no way that it contained in China when they found it- it had to have flown out well before anyone was aware of how bad this was.
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Earliest indications (I can't find the link I read recently) were that it did not appear unitl November-December of 2019, althought with the CCP you simply never know. It simply exploded from there after China meekly tried to contain it, and by late March of 2020 it was fully global. Considering how quickly variants explode, I can't imagine the timeline realistically started much earlier. I have zero faith in the CCP, however we have oceans of data to sort of support that as a rough starting point.
 
Swansong said:
Earliest indications (I can't find the link I read recently) were that it did not appear unitl November-December of 2019, althought with the CCP you simply never know. It simply exploded from there after China meekly tried to contain it, and by late March of 2020 it was fully global. Considering how quickly variants explode, I can't imagine the timeline realistically started much earlier. I have zero faith in the CCP, however we have oceans of data to sort of support that as a rough starting point.
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And keep in mind, it had a significantly lower effective transmission rate because the time between infection and symptoms was several days longer at the shortest and up to two weeks. And the viral load was orders of magnitude lower than with delta and omicron. The first spread fast, but it's almost like comparing a model T to a Ferrari.
 
burd said:
So, Kep--are you still planning to fly to Nodak for the series? Looks like they will have a stretch of warm weather up there, which should help. Whatever happens on the ice, I'm sure you will find your contacts with Daks intellectually stimulating.
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No I blew all my leave when my kid was in town. I'm not going to do any adventuring until the plague ends. It sucks because I have missed out on a bunch of places I would have loved to go. I couldn't even go to Tempe and I own a freaking house there. :-(
 
Swansong said:
Earliest indications (I can't find the link I read recently) were that it did not appear unitl November-December of 2019, althought with the CCP you simply never know. It simply exploded from there after China meekly tried to contain it, and by late March of 2020 it was fully global. Considering how quickly variants explode, I can't imagine the timeline realistically started much earlier. I have zero faith in the CCP, however we have oceans of data to sort of support that as a rough starting point.
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There has been some evidence to indicate it may have, I stress may have, been infecting people in China as early as September of 2019. They just didn't realize what was going on at the time since there were so few cases initially.

We do know that people in America got it before the first cases in Washington were being reported. I think, for now, they have traced the first case to someone in Colorado, but I can't remember how much earlier it was before the Washington cases occurred.

I agree with those that say people were carrying this virus around the world well before anyone realized what was happening. We had no hope of containing this at the start.
 
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