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US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

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Bless Anonymous for going after russian infrastructure- but instead of doing that, shouldn't they be attacking the hacking system within russia? Be more like Ukraine forces, cut the ability to fight off before going after the economy. That will save many people around the world being attacked right now for various systems attacks.
 
MichVandal said:
Bless Anonymous for going after russian infrastructure- but instead of doing that, shouldn't they be attacking the hacking system within russia? Be more like Ukraine forces, cut the ability to fight off before going after the economy. That will save many people around the world being attacked right now for various systems attacks.
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I assume they are trying to hit anything they can.
 
Kepler said:
I assume they are trying to hit anything they can.
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I might, too, except that the ruskies are launching cyber attacks right now. Are they going after the easy and vulnerable? The news about the air control system suggests that it was VERY vulnerable- since it had not basic back up system like any decent computer system should.
 
MichVandal said:
I might, too, except that the ruskies are launching cyber attacks right now. Are they going after the easy and vulnerable? The news about the air control system suggests that it was VERY vulnerable- since it had not basic back up system like any decent computer system should.
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I would think they are.

They are probably limited in their intel gathering about those systems, though, because they are not public-facing.
 
Kepler said:
I would think they are.

They are probably limited in their intel gathering about those systems, though, because they are not public-facing.
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Except that they are, since they keep sending out trojan horses to get into companies. The hackers are constantly sending out systems that they can use to penetrate other companies, remember. And they all have to trace back to the original hacker.
 
MichVandal said:
Bless Anonymous for going after russian infrastructure- but instead of doing that, shouldn't they be attacking the hacking system within russia? Be more like Ukraine forces, cut the ability to fight off before going after the economy. That will save many people around the world being attacked right now for various systems attacks.
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Ask and you shall receive (though it came from the Ukrainians, not Anonymous, but good enough):

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/ukraine-hack-russian-ransomware-gang/index.html
 
MichVandal said:
Except that they are, since they keep sending out trojan horses to get into companies. The hackers are constantly sending out systems that they can use to penetrate other companies, remember. And they all have to trace back to the original hacker.
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Oh I know, I've been to the white hat sessions at our cyber facilities, where they do realtime combat. It's set up exactly like you would imagine from a dumb summer blockbuster. I asked the site command about that and because he's an old friend from another part of the forest he confided "we set it up this way because the Members are impressed and fall over their dicks to give us more funding; if it was just the cubes and servers where the real work happens they would never understand it, they're lawyers."

But those sites have huge advantages in the agreements they have with our infrastructure. Anonymous actually has to hack our side in order to then hack the attackers. Extra work and it attracts attention from the guys who talk into their lapels.
 
This is a great piece on the Russian 4th GTD.

Russia rebuilt the division in 2015, outfitting it with 228 battle tanks, 300 armored personnel carriers, 90 artillery guns, and 19 MLRS GRAD rocket artillery.

This was one of the best funded and equipped units in the entire Russian Army, with their latest generation armor. The structure of the division would theoretically render it more resistant to the kind of rampant grift that affected BTGs. This thing was fearful, designed to punch through enemy lines and wreak havoc in the enemy’s rear. And that’s exactly what 4 GTD tried to do just the first week of March.

Deployed in the Sumy axis, in between that city and Kharkiv, the 4th GTD punched deep, getting as far as Myrhorod. The first contact with Myrhorod was March 9, with Ukrainian forces repelling the attack. It was the first sighting of Russia’s most modern tanks on the Ukrainian battlefield. At least three abandoned T80Us are seen abandoned in this video.

The tweet says “more abandoned ...” which means Ukraine captured or destroyed even more of them. Over the next two days, Ukrainian forces hacked away at the division, forcing its retreat back toward the direction it came. In those two days, the division lost around 50 of its tanks. It was easy to track because 4th GTD was the only unit in the entire Russian Army to have T80Us. And to add insult to Russia’s injury, most of these were abandoned, not destroyed. Of the 46 T-80Us in Oryx’s database of visually verified Russian equipment losses, 38 were captured, and only four seemed destroyed in combat. (The rest were abandoned and destroyed by locals.) Other T-80 variants in the Oryx database show similar rates of captured-to-destroyed.

Regardless, the division had lost around 50 of its tanks out of 228, so things got quiet for the 4th GTD. From all indications, they set up shop in Trostyanets, where their howitzer and rocket artillery could pummel Sumy. And so it was until this weekend, when Ukrainian forces swept into town, essentially wiping the division off the face of the map.
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Not mentioned: this is one of the most storied armor groups of WW2. The equivalent would be the 70th Armor Regiment getting annihilated by the Republican Guard in Iraq.

What a knife to the nuts for Russia and Putin.
 
Interesting.

I watched https://youtu.be/KJkmcNjh_bg last night. I'm unfamiliar with the source, but it was well done (if a bit rambling). Basically, his thesis is that Russia has spent virtually all of its military budget on things that absolutely do not matter in this conflict, compared to Ukraine's spending everything on defending this exact scenario (plus oceans of western help).

TL/DW: The fancy 5th gen fighters aren't ready and aren't involved. The enormous amount of ICBMs have only minimal impact (and to that only really keeping NATO from sweeping Russia out of Ukraine entirely). The navy is a shambles and only the Black Fleet is even remotely capable of assisting. Conscripts are terrible in offensive wars. Basically, Russia spent its money on things that have nothing to do with this conflict.
 
Swansong said:
Interesting.

I watched https://youtu.be/KJkmcNjh_bg last night. I'm unfamiliar with the source, but it was well done (if a bit rambling). Basically, his thesis is that Russia has spent virtually all of its military budget on things that absolutely do not matter in this conflict, compared to Ukraine's spending everything on defending this exact scenario (plus oceans of western help).
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You mean like 11 aircraft carriers?
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Aircraft carriers:2022::Battleships:1939ish

I honestly have no issues with $40 billion in floating airports. In 2080, sure, maybe war has moved beyond ACs and we can reevaluate
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Not sure I get your analogy. Battleships ended up being highly overrated in WWII, aircraft carriers being much more important.
 
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