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Grand Unified Election Thread 2: What is the difference between Biden and Dump?

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Kepler said:
Can we all agree to ban this expression forever? Of the times I have seen it used, at least 95% have been a logical fallacy, like the current one.
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Horse hockey.
bathwater = Trump pardons
Baby = legitimate exercises of executive clemency
 
geezer said:
It seems like while the saying you're referring to could be done away with, that if we do eradicate it completely, we'd also be losing some small valuable contribution it makes to our lexicon even though it's usually annoying. But I can't think of a way to put that into words succinctly.
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Well don't ban it but license its use to those who understand it.

It is supposed to denote the instance in which you lose something of transcendent and irreplaceable significance in exchange for a small gain. That doesn't apply here because (1) the gain is vital, and (2) the loss incurred is only one method of many possibly way to achieve the same end.
 
unofan said:
Horse hockey.
bathwater = Trump pardons
Baby = legitimate exercises of executive clemency
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Horse hockey.

You are saying we can't take the knife out of the toddler's hand because he may happen along an apple to peel. There are other ways to peel apples and meanwhile the toddler is in immediate lethal danger.
 
Wayuphere said:
2 of 4. Collins wets a finger and sticks it out to figure which way the wind is blowing before a vote. Her best move is to wait until she is sure the Repubs have a majority in a big vote, grandstand and get the attention while she fake waffles, then vote against her party knowing her side was going to win anyways.
My fellow Mainers eat it up as some noble Margaret Chase Smith moment, when actually it’s extreme weakness.
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She sounds like former Indiana Senator and Representative Joe Donnelly. I was glad to have moved away from Indiana before I needed to vote for him again in 2018.
 
unofan said:
Oh please. Funny how you weren't complaining when governors commuted sentences of pot smokers wholesale.

Because no one is above the law, amirite?
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I have never supported executive clemency.

Go find me a time I did.

So kindly GFY.
 
Wayuphere said:
2 of 4. Collins wets a finger and sticks it out to figure which way the wind is blowing before a vote. Her best move is to wait until she is sure the Repubs have a majority in a big vote, grandstand and get the attention while she fake waffles, then vote against her party knowing her side was going to win anyways.
My fellow Mainers eat it up as some noble Margaret Chase Smith moment, when actually it’s extreme weakness.
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Are there seriously only 4 Mainers on this site?

F-F-S, you guys stole, er, won a national title. There are probably 4 Brown fans on this site.
 
Kepler said:
Remind me again why there is executive pardon, ever, under any circumstances?

It is a wide open invitation to corruption. The only reason we have never seen such obscene and overt and widespread use of it for corrupt purposes has been there's never been anybody as evil as Dump in the office before. But executive pardon will always be a shiv. Take it away. Abolish it at every level down to school board.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
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Because sometimes we realize we ****ed up and justice isn't incarceration.

Obama grants final 330 commutations to nonviolent drug offenders - The Washington Post


Edit: Sees page 125... "oh..."
 
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Kepler said:
Well don't ban it but license its use to those who understand it.

It is supposed to denote the instance in which you lose something of transcendent and irreplaceable significance in exchange for a small gain. That doesn't apply here because (1) the gain is vital, and (2) the loss incurred is only one method of many possibly way to achieve the same end.
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I was just trying (and obviously failing) to be funny
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Because sometimes we realize we ****ed up and justice isn't incarceration.
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That. Is. Not. The. Point.

I swear I've lost the power to communicate. Because I am feeling like Ripley right now.

Would somebody -- anybody -- else try to state, in words that will be understood, the point I have now made 3 times?

I'm really beginning to think I should just lurk at this point. This is like the tenth time in 30 days people have ascribed something really, really dumb to me which I AM NOT SAYING. So either very smart people (uno, dx) just started failing reading comprehension all of a sudden, or I have lost it.

Note: Handy, this is why I'm long-winded. I can't seem to be able to explain something SIMPLE to people who are obviously smart enough to know better in 1-2 sentences, though now apparently I can't in 5 paragraphs.
 
rufus said:
Real estate brokerage trying to sell Trump's Washington hotel backs out of the deal. Now may not get sold unless he can find someone else to handle the transaction.
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I hope he and every member of his grifter family die destitute.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
I get why this is necessary but Christ

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1348754256711528448
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Hopefully the people doing the review are loyal to the constitution. I have been saying for years the career officers running the military (most have 20+ years before reaching 0-6, the Colonels and Captains) and the career enlisted personnel (decades in the service, the most senior 3 or 4% of enlisted) are mostly going to be loyal to their oaths and to the constitution. The ones who have joined in the last decade or so? I wouldn't count on it.
 
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