Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[Jeb2020]

By the way, for anyone who can't block obvious troll.

Any respiratory disease can be confirmed by test alone, without physical exam. Any. Not none. Any of them. Growing up I had a lot of asthma issues and would get various bugs regularly. My parents would call (and then when I was older, I would call myself) the doctor. He'd send me to a lab for testing. I'd get swabbed/blood drawn, and he'd prescribe whatever was to be prescribed.

Our doctors regularly diagnose over the phone (or now Zoom), order a test, and then officially diagnose without seeing them for a physical exam. Les and whichever other clinical practitioners on this forum can affirm.

So yeah - any respiratory infection can be diagnosed based solely on a PCR or AB test if the provider is sufficiently convinced.


This is almost as big a red herring as when people thought RI was committing fraud by discharging deceased COVID patients. ALL patients are discharged. Even the expired ones. Everyone who leaves a hospital is discharged - the key is their disposition at discharge. But why let basic facts that happen thousands of times per day all over the country get in the way of a good conspiracy?

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...dua-story.html

Wait you would call the Doc because you had a bug, aka symptoms and try to figure out what was going on? Seems reasonable. Did you ever call the doc "hey doc I feel great, lets run a test and see what comes back?"

Again let me know what virus we have ever done that for en masse. I'll wait.

The PCR test is a tracking tool and a research tool. Not a mass diagnosis tool, don't be a complete dope, you are smarter than that (I think?).

The current application and the data is absolutely junk.

"A growing body of research suggests that a significant number of confirmed COVID infections in the US, perhaps as many as 9 out of every 10, may not be infectious at all."

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...ases-might-not

Countries all over the World are counting "Cases" differently.

And you can be dam sure that how a "Case" is diagnosed will change at some point at which time "Cases" will plummet. And I will be here to point it out.

 

[Swansong]

edit: the block function now works, so I'll stop having to see obvioustroll's nonsense getting spewed.

 

[Jeb2020]

edit: the block function now works, so I'll stop having to see obvioustroll's nonsense getting spewed.

Do you think every Country uses the exact same PCR CT?

Crazy bringing that up triggers you to your safe space.

Stay Well, and of course Stay Ignorant, Stay Afraid.

 

[rufus]

To you it may not make sense. To you you don't think it will make a difference.

But this is Dimwit Donnie we're talking about.

 

[Handyman]

To you it may not make sense. To you you don't think it will make a difference.

But this is Dimwit Donnie we're talking about.

Unless he chose not to tell anyone else he was doing it I dont buy. Unless you think everyone in the Government is part of it which is not likely. (and we will find out because they leak like a sieve)

I love a good conspiracy theory but the whackos on Twitter saying this stuff sound like Q-turds.

 

[Kepler]

Unless he is using the disease to quit

That was my first thought when I heard last night. It would be the perfect coward move, like when Cartman tried to get out of fighting Wendy.

Edit: sweet holy hell I just went down the South Park fan art rabbit hole. There is some amazing stuff out there.

These is also, um...

 

[Jeb2020]

That was my first thought when I heard last night. It would be the perfect coward move, like when Cartman tried to get out of fighting Wendy.

Or he has a cold. Or not even that and it was just another over sensitive PCR test.

Morons.

 

[Handyman]

That was my first thought when I heard last night. It would be the perfect coward move, like when Cartman tried to get out of fighting Wendy.

That is the only version I can buy really. It allows him to save face...like resigning before you are gonna get fired. He can cite safety for he and his family and drop out. Then he can still act like the big strong man when he goes on TV to rail against President Sleepy Joe.

Of course if he had anyone working for him that knew anything about politics they would tell him to shut up for a week or two and then give an address where he mea culpas and tells everyone to do the right thing. It wouldnt save him but it might save some of the down ballot people. To do that though would be to admit weakness which he would never do.

No this is exactly what it looks like...the dumb***** never wears a mask, he never takes precautions and neither do the dim bulbs who worship him. Reports are that the WH has been about as lax as you can get on this stuff for months and the thought has been for a while it was a virtual certainty this would happen.

 

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

By the way, for anyone who can't block obvious troll.

ALL patients are discharged. Even the expired ones. Everyone who leaves a hospital is discharged - the key is their disposition at discharge. But why let basic facts that happen thousands of times per day all over the country get in the way of a good conspiracy?

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200429-e3bq2znxzzhvpll6ql5gkc4dua-story.html

Would the discharge come through the EVN segment of the HL7 ADT A03 message?

Just a guess.

 

[geezer]

The stopwatch is getting interesting, 15 hours since the last Tweet by His Dumpsterness. Normally this wouldn't mean much, but for The Dump One, it may be a record period of time without any internet whining, blaming, or crying about unfairness, and may point to the severity of his illness (SAD!) Hopefully even if The Liberal Hoax cripples his lungs permanently, his stubby little whining pigeon twitter fingers will be spared so we all can commiserate with His Put-Upon-ness again in the future.

 

[Swansong]

Would the discharge come through the EVN segment of the HL7 ADT A03 message?

Just a guess.

I just checked the messages to find out. The EVN segment is just an event (and the metadata around said event), so it would probably just say, effectively, "discharge occurred on xxx date and yyy time". It does have a reason code, but I'm not sure if discharge disposition is a reason. "Patient death" might be a reason but I don't work specifically with the details of what goes out on inpatient messages so I'm not certain.

The external system interfaces I've worked on are around labs, RX and discharge facilities (SNFs, rehab hospitals, etc.), and mainly in the form of getting the data correct so that it can flow properly. Example - right now I'm working on setting those Abbott Labs POC machines up so that not only can our clinical staff run them and enter results, but that we can report them to the state.

 

[Kepler]

The stopwatch is getting interesting, 15 hours since the last Tweet by His Dumpsterness. Normally this wouldn't mean much, but for The Dump One, it may be a record period of time without any internet whining, blaming, or crying about unfairness, and may point to the severity of his illness (SAD!) Hopefully even if The Liberal Hoax cripples his lungs permanently, his stubby little whining pigeon twitter fingers will be spared so we all can commiserate with His Put-Upon-ness again in the future.

If he does die it won't matter for the election which is a wipeout anyway but it will obviate the 15 years of resentment busking.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

If he does die it won't matter for the election which is a wipeout anyway but it will obviate the 15 years of resentment busking.

I just read an article that says if a candidate dies before the election, their party can nominate another candidate. (Interestingly, I also know that in some states, once a ballot is printed, it legally can't be changed.)

 

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

I just checked the messages to find out. The EVN segment is just an event (and the metadata around said event), so it would probably just say, effectively, "discharge occurred on xxx date and yyy time". It does have a reason code, but I'm not sure if discharge disposition is a reason. "Patient death" might be a reason but I don't work specifically with the details of what goes out on inpatient messages so I'm not certain.

The external system interfaces I've worked on are around labs, RX and discharge facilities (SNFs, rehab hospitals, etc.), and mainly in the form of getting the data correct so that it can flow properly. Example - right now I'm working on setting those Abbott Labs POC machines up so that not only can our clinical staff run them and enter results, but that we can report them to the state.

I worked on FDA regulated medical device software for the past 3.5 years. It manages blood transfusions (matches blood chemistry from the bag against the blood chemistry of the patient to make sure the transfusion doesn't kill you). LOTS of ADT messages flying around a hospital. And you are 110% right that every patient, dead or alive, is eventually discharged.

 

[geezer]

I just read an article that says if a candidate dies before the election, their party can nominate another candidate. (Interestingly, I also know that in some states, once a ballot is printed, it legally can't be changed.)

Each state's electors can direct those votes to whoever they want if the candidate dies. In this case, because Pence (even this late) would have a much better chance of winning than His Ragged Cough-ness, I hope Dumpy hangs on at least until Nov. 4, on artificial life support if necessary. Not to sound mean-spirited but beyond that, it's a case of "would you trade one 75 year old's pathetic money-grubbing life for 250,000 innocents?" and we all know the answer to that.

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Each state's electors can direct those votes to whoever they want if the candidate dies. In this case, because Pence (even this late) would have a much better chance of winning than His Ragged Cough-ness, I hope Dumpy hangs on at least until Nov. 4, on artificial life support if necessary. Not to sound mean-spirited but beyond that, it's a case of "would you trade one 75 year old's pathetic money-grubbing life for 250,000 innocents?" and we all know the answer to that.

...the rules and bylaws of the two major political parties govern what would happen if a presidential candidate resigns or dies before the general election, according to John Fortier, an expert on presidential succession at the Bipartisan Policy Center. The national committee of the affected party would choose a new candidate.

If the candidate dies after the election but before the Electoral College meets in mid-December, the national party would again choose a replacement and the electors would vote for that person, Fortier said.

If the death or resignation happens after Congress counts the electoral votes but before Inauguration Day, the 20th Amendment provides that the vice president becomes president.

 

[Jimjamesak]

That was my first thought when I heard last night. It would be the perfect coward move, like when Cartman tried to get out of fighting Wendy.

Edit: sweet holy hell I just went down the South Park fan art rabbit hole. There is some amazing stuff out there.

These is also, um...

Nobody tell him about the Tweek x Craig episode.

 

[dxmnkd316]

The stopwatch is getting interesting, 15 hours since the last Tweet by His Dumpsterness. Normally this wouldn't mean much, but for The Dump One, it may be a record period of time without any internet whining, blaming, or crying about unfairness, and may point to the severity of his illness (SAD!) Hopefully even if The Liberal Hoax cripples his lungs permanently, his stubby little whining pigeon twitter fingers will be spared so we all can commiserate with His Put-Upon-ness again in the future.

Keep in mind, he's still potus. They're probably doing a double arm drip of Remdesivir, steroids, and convalescent plasma. He's tested daily, the caught it early (which means the treatments are all going to be significantly more effective), he has a team of experts attending to him, and they probably had an entire document outlining their response the second a positive came back.

He's going to get the best treatment of any person on planet earth. The kind even money can't buy. I would be surprised if he even spent a day in the ICU.

 

[geezer]

they caught it early (which means the treatments are all going to be significantly more effective).

Chris Wallace admitted today that Trump suspiciously refused to show up to the debate in time for the "required" COVID test beforehand, so they accepted his word "on the honor system", and others have admitted that he already knew he had it the following night when he went to NJ to glad-hand and spit all over a bunch of rich willing dupes.
He knew. The question is, was he already getting the full treatment on Air Force One in between his vanity rallies and sugar daddy events?
(Note to normal humans: do not use "the honor system" with a Trump.)

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I wonder if he owns stock in this company they’re pimping for his drug cocktail