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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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WeAreNDHockey said:
More attempts have been made to reform or abolish the electoral college than any other topic in the history of this republic. Aside from the minor change the 12th Amendment made, it ain't gonna happen. Especially now when a good portion of America is dumber than they were a couple of generations ago and won't take the time to educate themselves on an issue, beyond what FAUX News or right wing nutjob radio tells them to think and believe. And 35-40% of Americans do not believe in the kind of equality our Constitution (and its Amendments) and Declaration of Independence speak of anyway.

You might be right Kep about how the bigots and the close-minded non-thinkers will gradually fade away and be replaced by people with enough awareness to realize there are better ways. But we don't have time on an evolutionary schedule to wait for it. This country probably does not survive in its present form waiting for enough people to die off naturally and be replaced with people who know how to think, and consider all options, and to wait for the science and the evidence to be studied and understood. We need to give evolution a push. Or a good kick in the behind.
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Even if we got rid of the EC we'd still be screwed by the rural bias of the Senate, so the way to democratize the US is to admit new states and split big states. AFAIK we can do that with simple majorities in both chambers. Something like +DC, +PR, and splitting CA into 3 states with a good urban/rural balance would go a long way towards restoring democracy. And, by pure coincidence, add 8 Democratic Senators.
 
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Even if we got rid of the EC we'd still be screwed by the rural bias of the Senate, so the way to democratize the US is to admit new states and split big states. AFAIK we can do that with simple majorities in both chambers. Something like +DC, +PR, and splitting CA into 3 states with a good urban/rural balance would go a long way towards restoring democracy. And, by pure coincidence, add 8 Democratic Senators.
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And if you think any of that is happening anytime in the next 50 years, you're nuts.
 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...tE7?li=BBnb7Kz
The phone call, the talking points Trump picked up from it, and his subsequent attempts to cover up his alliance with Xi are part of a deep betrayal. The story the president now tells—that he “built the greatest economy in history,” that China blindsided him by unleashing the virus, and that Trump saved millions of lives by mobilizing America to defeat it—is a lie. Trump collaborated with Xi, concealed the threat, impeded the U.S. government’s response, silenced those who sought to warn the public, and pushed states to take risks that escalated the tragedy. He’s personally responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.

This isn’t speculation. All the evidence is in the public record. But the truth, unlike Trump’s false narrative, is scattered in different places. It’s in emails, leaks, interviews, hearings, scientific reports, and the president’s stray remarks. This article puts those fragments together. It documents Trump’s interference or negligence in every stage of the government’s failure: preparation, mobilization, public communication, testing, mitigation, and reopening.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...thousands-of-americans/ar-BB17LtE7?li=BBnb7Kz
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...thousands-of-americans/ar-BB17LtE7?li=BBnb7Kz
 
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rufus said:
200,000 Americans dead?

Don't care, as long as I ain't one of 'em

Forget the fact that I completely lost my **** after 9/11.

Where are all those "patriots" now?

Can't be bothered, got a BBQ tonite.
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I was one of those, and I'm right here with you as enraged as you are.

I am horrified by our national response to this. I'm pretty damn far from a lefty, if anyone here remembers. But I refuse to look at this through a political lens. Do the right thing and I'll applaud you.
 
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Pretty sobering stat on Twitter this morning:

Of the US population alive at the start of coronavirus, 1 out of every 2000 have since died from it.
 
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aparch said:
Pretty sobering stat on Twitter this morning:

Of the US population alive at the start of coronavirus, 1 out of every 2000 have since died from it.
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Same thing happened with the 1968-1969 Hong Kong Flu (or I guess the "Lyndon Johnson Flu", using the preferred verbiage of the Lounge?), when over 100,000 US citizens died out of a total population of 200,000,000. "Thankfully" there had been a previous pandemic about a decade earlier, so there was still substantial immunity residing in the general US population.

Why didn't it register as such a big deal back then? The following article offers some insight:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/why-li...demic-of-1969/

Summary? Older and middle aged folks were tougher-minded, kids were virtually immune (as they are today), and the young adults were too stoned at Max Yasgur's farm to notice.
 
Chuck Murray said:
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Same thing happened with the 1968-1969 Hong Kong Flu (or I guess the "Lyndon Johnson Flu", using the preferred verbiage of the Lounge?), when over 100,000 US citizens died out of a total population of 200,000,000. "Thankfully" there had been a previous pandemic about a decade earlier, so there was still substantial immunity residing in the general US population.

Why didn't it register as such a big deal back then? The following article offers some insight:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/why-li...demic-of-1969/

Summary? Older and middle aged folks were tougher-minded, kids were virtually immune (as they are today), and the young adults were too stoned at Max Yasgur's farm to notice.
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The article was interesting with it's late 60s nostalgia. That's all I'll grant you. Hong Kong flu, according to what the article said, killed 100,000 from 1968-1970. We've already lost 165,000 in 6 months. If it killed that many in 2+ years (as long as the HK flu appeared to circulate) then it would be be similarly deadly, given the population is about 65% larger now than it was 50 years ago. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it might kill a few hundred -- or a few hundred-THOUSAND -- more. And to pick a nit, I would like to know how a woman who is two years younger than I am (Renee Ward) can have such vivid recollection of Christmas in 1968. I was three. She would have been 1, and even if she was born on December 31 1966 she still would not be 2. There is no way she could possibly remember Christmas 1968. She might remember Christmas in 1970.
 
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