Yale - The best team in the country?

[Stories]

Re: Yale - The best team in the country?

I can't believe so many people are so butt hurt over Yale being ranked #1. Big whoop. Now that Yale is #1, they're going to lose. It's how it works. Next week, someone else will be #1. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[SteveF]

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I have watched Yale in the same way I've watched most other top teams

drunk?

 

[Puck Swami]

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Great for Yale. The Bulldogs could stay a while in this spot with a 31st ranked strength of schedule...

 

[LTsatch]

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I think some of the USCHO Yale haters got onto the New Haven Register blog after the ranking was announced, check the comments Actually pretty funny

Edward wrote on Dec 6, 2010 4:14 PM:
" Wow. And they deserve it!

I could not believe the quality of hockey I saw yesterday against #13 Union. Total domination on both ends of the ice.

Better get your tickets now folks! "

CT college sports RULE wrote on Dec 6, 2010 4:36 PM:
" amazing to see CT college sports all doing so well...we got the uconn men bball being ranked #6 now...uconn women #1 as always, UCONN football in a BCS bowl...Yale #1 hockey team in the country...SNIFF THE NUTMEG HATERS! "


Sniffles wrote on Dec 6, 2010 5:06 PM:
" All this and New Haven moved up the crime poll. Oh, wait a minute. Nevermind. "

rats cats wrote on Dec 6, 2010 5:29 PM:
" WOW , and i thought reporting was their forte "

Handsome Dan wrote on Dec 6, 2010 6:29 PM:
" Also, hats off to Chip Malafronte who began reporting Yale Hockey from the womb and is one of the most approachable reporters on the planet.

You Rule Chip!! "

Kenny wrote on Dec 6, 2010 7:07 PM:
" I'm a huge college Hockey Fan and play college hockey. Yale is not even close to being #1 in the country. This years team is good but nowhere near the best team in the country. They are just in the top 25 maybe in the nation? "

HockeyGod wrote on Dec 6, 2010 7:14 PM:
" Their schedule is so light I can't believe they are ranked number 1....they dont play anyone regardless of what the above says. Union? isnt that a town up RT 8? Who is number 2? Quinnipiac? pleeze "

GUY wrote on Dec 6, 2010 7:17 PM:
" Give me a break...they dont play anyone...who is next on their schedule? Salve regina? "

 

[UMDBulldogHockeyIsKing]

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drunk?

As if that were a bad thing......

 

[DaveStPaul]

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SNIFF THE NUTMEG HATERS!

He really needs the comma in there.

 

[bothman]

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The same idiots that voted Yale #1 are also the same idiots that voted BC, BU, etc # 1 in previous polls. Exactly what I was thinking...what do they know?

 

[willythekid]

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yale is the second coming.... I just hope that for some reason they take pity on us mere mortals

 

[ecacguru]

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Why are so many people upset that Yale is ranked No 1 in the polls? They're No 1 in both the PairWise and KRACH ratings.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Why are so many people upset that Yale is ranked No 1 in the polls? They're No 1 in both the PairWise and KRACH ratings.

Western bias.

 

[siouxinminny]

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Yales is #1 because the geniuses who vote in the USCHO poll look at 2 factors: (1) how many losses a team has and (2) what happened last weekend. Miami and Michigan each get bumped up 1 spot because they are Miami and Michigan. BC and UND get bumped up 2 spots because they are BC and UND. I hope Yale stays #1 for the rest of the season. Does it matter/

 

[jcarter7669]

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Get your shots in now because you'll look silly doing so after Wednesday's shellacking.

?? Why because the #1 team might beat the #43 team?? Jeez I hope for Yale's sake they do, because if they don't it won't be me who looks silly.

 

[jcarter7669]

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Why are so many people upset that Yale is ranked No 1 in the polls? They're No 1 in both the PairWise and KRACH ratings.

No one is upset Yale is #1, everyone just thinks it's funny that Eli's get their panties in such a bunch beating a slew of mediocre teams and then starting threads like this one.

No one would have said a thing had this thread not been started...

 

[Dirty]

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But is not Oasis the greatest British band since the Beatles? Can we not vote on this?!

 

[Stan The Man]

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Congratulations to Yale for their first ever #1 ranking. Still a long way to go and the only #1 that really matters is the #1 left standing at the end of the Frozen Four.

 

[LynahFan]

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And maybe if Yale put up the same numbers playing a ranked team or two we wouldn't be having this discussion, but the only ranked teams they have played are the other ECAC teams with inflated records because they beat up on Harvard and Qunni

You (and many others) underestimate how difficult it is to put up a 10-1 record, even against the schedule Yale has faced. A team that should win 95% of its games would still only have an 89% chance at being 10-1 or better. If you want to argue that Yale is a quality of team that should only win 80% of its games (good but not great) against its schedule, then the probability that they're sitting at 10-1 is only 32%. If Yale were really getting that many "lucky" wins, I think there would be a whole lot more close games!

Fortunately, KRACH does not fall prey to this fallacy, and it dispassionately calculates that they are likely to be the best team in the country - even after taking their schedule strength into account. If you say, "sure, they have the #1 ranking, but look at their SOS," then you're double-counting their SOS, because it's already been accounted for.

 

[licwinko]

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You (and many others) underestimate how difficult it is to put up a 10-1 record, even against the schedule Yale has faced. A team that should win 95% of its games would still only have an 89% chance at being 10-1 or better. If you want to argue that Yale is a quality of team that should only win 80% of its games (good but not great) against its schedule, then the probability that they're sitting at 10-1 is only 32%. If Yale were really getting that many "lucky" wins, I think there would be a whole lot more close games!

Fortunately, KRACH does not fall prey to this fallacy, and it dispassionately calculates that they are likely to be the best team in the country - even after taking their schedule strength into account. If you say, "sure, they have the #1 ranking, but look at their SOS," then you're double-counting their SOS, because it's already been accounted for.

Ah ah, you're assuming the theories of math and logic are valid. If we could trust statistics and evidence then my cousin's kids wouldn't be learning creationism in school.

 

[SJHovey]

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I'd say its a "good news, bad news" sort of deal for Yale. The good news is that of the 10 prior teams ranked number one in the USCHO poll for the time period Dec 3-9, eight of them went on to achieve #1 seeds in the NCAAs. The bad news, only Wisconsin in 2006 won the championship, and in fact was the only team of the group to even reach the championship game. A majority fell before even reaching the Frozen Four.

The early December rankings of the last 10 national champs:

BC - 10
BU - 4
BC - 17
Mich. St. - 15
Wis. - 1
DU - 6
DU - 10
MN - 8
MN - 2
BC - 3

 

[jcarter7669]

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You (and many others) underestimate how difficult it is to put up a 10-1 record, even against the schedule Yale has faced.

Your premise is wrong. Nobody is arguing how difficult it is to be 10-1, what people are arguing about is being 10-1 against a weak schedule doesn't make you the best team in the country.

If you want to argue that Yale is a quality of team that should only win 80% of its games (good but not great) against its schedule, then the probability that they're sitting at 10-1 is only 32%.

I don't want to argue that Yale should win 80% of their games. I want to argue that playing the schedule they do, if they want to be considered #1 they should win 100% of their games.

If Yale were really getting that many "lucky" wins, I think there would be a whole lot more close games!

No one said they were getting lucky wins. A win over Harvard isn't lucky unless your AIC.
You appear to have a very solid understanding of probability but your reading comprehension could use some work.

 

[LynahFan]

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Your premise is wrong. Nobody is arguing how difficult it is to be 10-1, what people are arguing about is being 10-1 against a weak schedule doesn't make you the best team in the country.

Except that KRACH (and PWR, et al - not to mention the polls) says that it does.

I don't want to argue that Yale should win 80% of their games. I want to argue that playing the schedule they do, if they want to be considered #1 they should win 100% of their games.

No one said they were getting lucky wins. A win over Harvard isn't lucky unless your AIC.
You appear to have a very solid understanding of probability but your reading comprehension could use some work.

Nope - I read your opinion loud and clear. I just disagree with it - and was trying to explain to you why it is perfectly reasonable to think that a team with a 10-1 record against Yale's schedule SHOULD be considered the #1 team in the country. I'm shocked - shocked! - that you're not open to considering my argument.