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Worst Coaches of All Time
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Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
Chris Serino's althetic accomplishments @ AIC were outstanding; no one is denying that, but neither does that have ANYTHING to do with this thread.
Neither does his very successful stint at UNH as associate head coach and top notch recruiter. But given his record at Merrimack, you have to at the very least consider him amongst the least successful (worst?) coaches in college hockey history. In 5 years, his overall winning % was 30.7%. Highest HE finish was 7th.
Lets not forget Ricci, a Serino recruit who was key to teams limited success for 2 years with new coach.
Scmidtz etc You do recall that Ricci was suspended by Dennehey for an entire season? Not exactly a "key" contributor that particular year.
Mc just does not have support to win, sad but true at the bc/bu levels I agree! But my expectations are not that lofty. For them to occasionally compete for home ice (if Da Costa stays, 2010-2011 perhaps?) or be in the mix for 3rd-6th place would be great! Does Providence have the support necessary?, How 'bout UML or UMass? NU?
Amazing how the biggest donor quit Merrimack and went to MC with serino and donated a million pus, as did red Sox parntner joe O'Donnell. They have raised more then merrimack If "the biggest donor" did quit Merrimack, that is a shame. He and Ron Connors, both classmates of mine, and Ken Ruane '80, raised over $2.0M to rename the rink after Thom Lawler. However, if he is contributing to Malden Catholic, that's not too bad from my perspective as that is my alma mater.
Now a program in the tank for a decade with a great history goes to super 8 final for 4 years in a row and athletics have turned around Malden Catholic hockey especially, lest anyone be confused. Absolutley terrific job bringing the hockey team back to prominence. I have no doubt that they would have won the Super 8 this year had they not lost a couple of outstanding prospects to Juniors (Adams) and Prep(Cerratani). And the baseball team is an annual contender (now football still needs some work
)
Bottom line, I'm glad that Chris has a great situation at MC, but I still believe the posters are correct to include him amongst the worst college coaches. Doesn't make him a bad guy.
We've been down this road before.
Chris Serino's althetic accomplishments @ AIC were outstanding; no one is denying that, but neither does that have ANYTHING to do with this thread.
Neither does his very successful stint at UNH as associate head coach and top notch recruiter. But given his record at Merrimack, you have to at the very least consider him amongst the least successful (worst?) coaches in college hockey history. In 5 years, his overall winning % was 30.7%. Highest HE finish was 7th. Lets not forget Ricci, a Serino recruit who was key to teams limited success for 2 years with new coach.
Scmidtz etc You do recall that Ricci was suspended by Dennehey for an entire season? Not exactly a "key" contributor that particular year.
Mc just does not have support to win, sad but true at the bc/bu levels I agree! But my expectations are not that lofty. For them to occasionally compete for home ice (if Da Costa stays, 2010-2011 perhaps?) or be in the mix for 3rd-6th place would be great! Does Providence have the support necessary?, How 'bout UML or UMass? NU?
Amazing how the biggest donor quit Merrimack and went to MC with serino and donated a million pus, as did red Sox parntner joe O'Donnell. They have raised more then merrimack If "the biggest donor" did quit Merrimack, that is a shame. He and Ron Connors, both classmates of mine, and Ken Ruane '80, raised over $2.0M to rename the rink after Thom Lawler. However, if he is contributing to Malden Catholic, that's not too bad from my perspective as that is my alma mater.
Now a program in the tank for a decade with a great history goes to super 8 final for 4 years in a row and athletics have turned around Malden Catholic hockey especially, lest anyone be confused. Absolutley terrific job bringing the hockey team back to prominence. I have no doubt that they would have won the Super 8 this year had they not lost a couple of outstanding prospects to Juniors (Adams) and Prep(Cerratani). And the baseball team is an annual contender (now football still needs some work
)Bottom line, I'm glad that Chris has a great situation at MC, but I still believe the posters are correct to include him amongst the worst college coaches. Doesn't make him a bad guy.
Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
Ricci was suspended, for acts done while Dennehy was coaching and monitoring him. Nothing what so ever to do with Serino. He was Denneheys best player for 3 years and a captain. I always admired the fact he didnt just cut him loose and was glad it ended well. Ricci was suspended his second year under Dennehy and was the teams leading scorer all 3 years he played for him. Thanks CS, great recruit
Thread didnt say head coaches..
PC/UML/NU/UMass have budgets far superior and rinks ten times better. Maybe not fan wise but light years in regards to funding and facilities.
Agreed on its good for Malden Catholic but as an insider, you must know the board and alum were semi fractured when CS left. Even hiring coach before AD shows how disfunctional it was. Good job by Dennehy to keep his eye on only what he could control and not get hung up on bs stuff.
First year
Serino 11-24-1
Dennehy 6-23-5
Second Year
Serino 11-19-6
Dennehy 3-27-4
Third Year
Serino 14-20-4
Dennehy 12-18-4
Fourth Year
Serino 11-23-2
Dennehey 9-21-4
Fith Year
Serino 12-18-6
Dennehy 16-19-2
Total first 5 year record
Serino 59-104-19
Dennehy 46-108-19
Serino did better job winning wise first 4 years out of the 5 in comparison. he also made playoffs every eyar, MD didnt
Serino did coach an extra 2 years, and went 11-19-6 and 8-26-2
Dennehys other year as a head coach he went 3-28-3 in a lower conference and the following year they disolved the program
Serino went to HE playoffs 6 times.
Dennehy went to playoffs once and lost in first round.
If your going to put CS on this list, which I dont think is close to fair, Dennehy needs to be on it and his results at Fairfield etc would put him higher up the list, and I dont think he should be on it either...
Great for Merrimack to be having so much fun but under 500 is still under 500, with zero advancement on a new rink
CS finished last 1 time, MD was dead last 3 times in 5 years, tied for last in other
We've been down this road before.
Chris Serino's althetic accomplishments @ AIC were outstanding; no one is denying that, but neither does that have ANYTHING to do with this thread.
Lets not forget Ricci, a Serino recruit who was key to teams limited success for 2 years with new coach.
Scmidtz etc You do recall that Ricci was suspended by Dennehey for an entire season? Not exactly a "key" contributor that particular year.
Mc just does not have support to win, sad but true at the bc/bu levels I agree! But my expectations are not that lofty. For them to occasionally compete for home ice (if Da Costa stays, 2010-2011 perhaps?) or be in the mix for 3rd-6th place would be great! Does Providence have the support necessary?, How 'bout UML or UMass? NU?
Amazing how the biggest donor quit Merrimack and went to MC with serino and donated a million pus, as did red Sox parntner joe O'Donnell. They have raised more then merrimack If "the biggest donor" did quit Merrimack, that is a shame. He and Ron Connors, both classmates of mine, and Ken Ruane '80, raised over $2.0M to rename the rink after Thom Lawler. However, if he is contributing to Malden Catholic, that's not too bad from my perspective as that is my alma mater.
Now a program in the tank for a decade with a great history goes to super 8 final for 4 years in a row and athletics have turned around Malden Catholic hockey especially, lest anyone be confused. Absolutley terrific job bringing the hockey team back to prominence. I have no doubt that they would have won the Super 8 this year had they not lost a couple of outstanding prospects to Juniors (Adams) and Prep(Cerratani). And the baseball team is an annual contender (now football still needs some work
Bottom line, I'm glad that Chris has a great situation at MC, but I still believe the posters are correct to include him amongst the worst college coaches. Doesn't make him a bad guy.
Ricci was suspended, for acts done while Dennehy was coaching and monitoring him. Nothing what so ever to do with Serino. He was Denneheys best player for 3 years and a captain. I always admired the fact he didnt just cut him loose and was glad it ended well. Ricci was suspended his second year under Dennehy and was the teams leading scorer all 3 years he played for him. Thanks CS, great recruit
Thread didnt say head coaches..
PC/UML/NU/UMass have budgets far superior and rinks ten times better. Maybe not fan wise but light years in regards to funding and facilities.
Agreed on its good for Malden Catholic but as an insider, you must know the board and alum were semi fractured when CS left. Even hiring coach before AD shows how disfunctional it was. Good job by Dennehy to keep his eye on only what he could control and not get hung up on bs stuff.
First year
Serino 11-24-1
Dennehy 6-23-5
Second Year
Serino 11-19-6
Dennehy 3-27-4
Third Year
Serino 14-20-4
Dennehy 12-18-4
Fourth Year
Serino 11-23-2
Dennehey 9-21-4
Fith Year
Serino 12-18-6
Dennehy 16-19-2
Total first 5 year record
Serino 59-104-19
Dennehy 46-108-19
Serino did better job winning wise first 4 years out of the 5 in comparison. he also made playoffs every eyar, MD didnt
Serino did coach an extra 2 years, and went 11-19-6 and 8-26-2
Dennehys other year as a head coach he went 3-28-3 in a lower conference and the following year they disolved the program
Serino went to HE playoffs 6 times.
Dennehy went to playoffs once and lost in first round.
If your going to put CS on this list, which I dont think is close to fair, Dennehy needs to be on it and his results at Fairfield etc would put him higher up the list, and I dont think he should be on it either...
Great for Merrimack to be having so much fun but under 500 is still under 500, with zero advancement on a new rink
CS finished last 1 time, MD was dead last 3 times in 5 years, tied for last in other
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Hockeypuck
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Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
Wasn't Ron Anderson the coach when Merrimack beat BU in 98?
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yes, cs took over in 98/98 so ron would have been coach for the beg of 98, i.e. the playoffs
my bad
yes, cs took over in 98/98 so ron would have been coach for the beg of 98, i.e. the playoffs
my bad
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owslachief
occupe toi de tes oignons
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Yep, still here
Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
No kidding. Listen to you people claiming coaches like Blasi or Umile that have lost in the Frozen Four or in the NCAA tournament. Really?
Culhane never even reached Joe Louis Arena in 11+ years at Western. Every other CCHA team made at least one trip in that period. They didn't qualify when the top 6 freaking teams were invited, and they sure as hell didn't go when it changed to a semifinal format. He won two playoff series, both first round series and promptly was swept out of the quarters both times. Without looking it up, I believe WMU went 6-23 in those playoff rounds.
Hell, even Michigan Tech's made a recent trip to the WCHA Final Five, and they're probably being outspent by their big league opponents by another degree that isn't happening in the CCHA yet. (Mariucci/Kohl/Englestad vs. Yost/Munn, etc.)
No kidding. Listen to you people claiming coaches like Blasi or Umile that have lost in the Frozen Four or in the NCAA tournament. Really?
Culhane never even reached Joe Louis Arena in 11+ years at Western. Every other CCHA team made at least one trip in that period. They didn't qualify when the top 6 freaking teams were invited, and they sure as hell didn't go when it changed to a semifinal format. He won two playoff series, both first round series and promptly was swept out of the quarters both times. Without looking it up, I believe WMU went 6-23 in those playoff rounds.
Hell, even Michigan Tech's made a recent trip to the WCHA Final Five, and they're probably being outspent by their big league opponents by another degree that isn't happening in the CCHA yet. (Mariucci/Kohl/Englestad vs. Yost/Munn, etc.)
REDMEN2002
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Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
You know nothing. Nothing about what happened that led to Chris Serino's firing. And nothing about the coaching at Merrimack. Chris Serino did not take over in 2005-2006. He took over the season after Merrimack's upset over BU in 1998. Ron Anderson was canned after the 97-98 season.
You know nothing. Nothing about what happened that led to Chris Serino's firing. And nothing about the coaching at Merrimack. Chris Serino did not take over in 2005-2006. He took over the season after Merrimack's upset over BU in 1998. Ron Anderson was canned after the 97-98 season.
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thecomicbookguy
Nobody.
Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
I think that's what he meant...no clue why he got the years so wrong.
I think that's what he meant...no clue why he got the years so wrong.
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I screwed up typing, went back and changed dates as per time line.
CS did not get fired. Left MC 100% on his own, had full support of Santagati, school president.
It worked out good for both schools
I screwed up typing, went back and changed dates as per time line.
CS did not get fired. Left MC 100% on his own, had full support of Santagati, school president.
It worked out good for both schools
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Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
Wow, captain obvious, really going out on a limb there.
The fact that Umile is suggested in a thread titled 'Worst Coaches of All Time' shows how retarded some people are. Period.
Congrats on winning another title, and continuing the tradition of winning with such little class that its impossible to be happy for an incredible coach and highly entertaining team.
Wow, captain obvious, really going out on a limb there.
The fact that Umile is suggested in a thread titled 'Worst Coaches of All Time' shows how retarded some people are. Period.
Congrats on winning another title, and continuing the tradition of winning with such little class that its impossible to be happy for an incredible coach and highly entertaining team.
LackofSuCCess
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Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
Worst PLAYOFF Coach of All Time: Scott Owens
FIRE SCOTTY OWENS
Figured this would be more fun than the "Best Coaches of All Time" thread.
Worst PLAYOFF Coach of All Time: Scott Owens
FIRE SCOTTY OWENS
SteveF
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so sad.
truth is, though, there is simply no more room on the bandwagon anyway; especially for the unwashed.
so sad.
truth is, though, there is simply no more room on the bandwagon anyway; especially for the unwashed.
Re: Worst Coaches of All Time
Thread didnt say head coaches..C'mon, you're kidding right?
PC/UML/NU/UMass have budgets far superior and rinks ten times better. Maybe not fan wise but light years in regards to funding and facilities. Certainly UMass, UML and NU have MUCH better rinks. Let's see if, after the Lawler renovation, you still think "the Coffin" is 10 times better.
As regards, comparing the 1st five years for each coach, this is completely disingenuous. When Serino took over in '98-'99, he inherited Kris Porter (MC's alltime goal scoring leader in D1) and Reggie Stringer (MC's all time points leader in D1) Stringer had 56 points that year.
When Dennehey took over, he inherited a team that had won 1 game in HE the previous season, and was in shambles! That cupboard was bare. Ricci was a pretty good recruit, but honestly, there wasn't much else.
And the playoff comparison is weak. Serino was competing in a 9 team league, Dennehey in a 10 team league with the addition of UVM. By the way, Dennehey already has more career playoff wins (1) than Serino.
Done with this
Honest, my last input on the topic:
Thread didnt say head coaches..C'mon, you're kidding right?
PC/UML/NU/UMass have budgets far superior and rinks ten times better. Maybe not fan wise but light years in regards to funding and facilities. Certainly UMass, UML and NU have MUCH better rinks. Let's see if, after the Lawler renovation, you still think "the Coffin" is 10 times better.
As regards, comparing the 1st five years for each coach, this is completely disingenuous. When Serino took over in '98-'99, he inherited Kris Porter (MC's alltime goal scoring leader in D1) and Reggie Stringer (MC's all time points leader in D1) Stringer had 56 points that year.
When Dennehey took over, he inherited a team that had won 1 game in HE the previous season, and was in shambles! That cupboard was bare. Ricci was a pretty good recruit, but honestly, there wasn't much else.
And the playoff comparison is weak. Serino was competing in a 9 team league, Dennehey in a 10 team league with the addition of UVM. By the way, Dennehey already has more career playoff wins (1) than Serino.
Done with this
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Good for you but that does not mean you get the last word, you dont.
Five full seasons and still under 500. Record no better, actually wors then CS. To be handed Ricci, stud times 2 and Schmidtz etc. Come on, did you forget good old number 4??
I will believe the rink improvements when I see them. Not for one second do i think Lawlor will ever be as good as the rinks you just mentioned, never in the next 5-7 years.
Good for you but that does not mean you get the last word, you dont.
Five full seasons and still under 500. Record no better, actually wors then CS. To be handed Ricci, stud times 2 and Schmidtz etc. Come on, did you forget good old number 4??
I will believe the rink improvements when I see them. Not for one second do i think Lawlor will ever be as good as the rinks you just mentioned, never in the next 5-7 years.
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Under 500 and zero winning seasons and 1 playoff appearnce, 1st rd loss, rink not in picture etc means what? Thats a beautiful outfit Emperor..
Under 500 and zero winning seasons and 1 playoff appearnce, 1st rd loss, rink not in picture etc means what? Thats a beautiful outfit Emperor..
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How hard is it to use the quote function? Serino won 77 in seven years. Dennehy has won 46 in five years. No surprise MC was in shambles when Dennehy took over, so if you want to hold your hat on Serino having more wins while coaching two more years, fine. Dennehy did something this year, in year five, that Serino never did. Won 16 games, finished in 6th, and won a playoff game. Right now, MC is in better shape than at any point under Serino.
How hard is it to use the quote function? Serino won 77 in seven years. Dennehy has won 46 in five years. No surprise MC was in shambles when Dennehy took over, so if you want to hold your hat on Serino having more wins while coaching two more years, fine. Dennehy did something this year, in year five, that Serino never did. Won 16 games, finished in 6th, and won a playoff game. Right now, MC is in better shape than at any point under Serino.
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I went with first 5 years, which is all you can do.
You can say team was in shambles with Ricci, his leading scorer for every year under Dennehy or Schmidt etc but you have zero facts, zero.
Ricci, Schmidt, Johnson, Healey etc. Left some very good kids there. Same core kids, Schmidt was one of top players in league.. New coaching etc should have lit a fire and gave them better atmosphere to play etc. but instead team goes on 2 year drop.
Team went from 8 wins under serino last year to 6 and then 3 under MD.
has never been over 500 since. Not once and instead of making playoffs 6/7 years, they go 1/5 and first rd exit. To then complain because a team was added?
MC under MD finished dead last 4 straight years after taking over, even after a 10th team was added. CS never finished last once in first 5 years, or for that matter, first 6 years
Neither coach deserves to be on list but to say after 5+ years and still below 500 is > is jaded at best
Nothing is apples to apples but first 5 years, period. It does not add up
I went with first 5 years, which is all you can do.
You can say team was in shambles with Ricci, his leading scorer for every year under Dennehy or Schmidt etc but you have zero facts, zero.
Ricci, Schmidt, Johnson, Healey etc. Left some very good kids there. Same core kids, Schmidt was one of top players in league.. New coaching etc should have lit a fire and gave them better atmosphere to play etc. but instead team goes on 2 year drop.
Team went from 8 wins under serino last year to 6 and then 3 under MD.
has never been over 500 since. Not once and instead of making playoffs 6/7 years, they go 1/5 and first rd exit. To then complain because a team was added?
MC under MD finished dead last 4 straight years after taking over, even after a 10th team was added. CS never finished last once in first 5 years, or for that matter, first 6 years
Neither coach deserves to be on list but to say after 5+ years and still below 500 is > is jaded at best
Nothing is apples to apples but first 5 years, period. It does not add up
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I can't deal with you anymore, so I'll say this again and let you have the last word since you know everything...
Dennehy did something this year, in year five, that Serino never did. Won 16 games, finished in 6th, and won a playoff game. Right now, MC is in better shape than at any point under Serino.
I can't deal with you anymore, so I'll say this again and let you have the last word since you know everything...
Dennehy did something this year, in year five, that Serino never did. Won 16 games, finished in 6th, and won a playoff game. Right now, MC is in better shape than at any point under Serino.