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World Soccer XXV - the run up to the World Cup

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FreshFish said:
Rather than move the games to a different time of year, why not just play all the games at 2 AM local time? The temperature would be tolerable then.
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very funny but I'm sure the part of the equation that fifa forgot was the comfort of their fans when not at a stadium. are they going to air condition the whole country? I mean why not if they are building whole cities right?
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
very funny
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I was not speaking in jest. I meant it with complete seriousness. The difference between daytime and nighttime temperatures is about 30[SUP]o[/SUP] F, IIRC. That's enough to make it feasible to play in the traditional June-July time slot.
 
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FreshFish said:
Rather than move the games to a different time of year, why not just play all the games at 2 AM local time? The temperature would be tolerable then.
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It's not just the heat. It's the violent repression of human rights that chafes me.
 
FreshFish said:
I was not speaking in jest. I meant it with complete seriousness. The difference between daytime and nighttime temperatures is about 30[SUP]o[/SUP] F, IIRC. That's enough to make it feasible to play in the traditional June-July time slot.
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For the same reason we don't play baseball games in July at 2 am?
 
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unofun said:
For the same reason we don't play baseball games in July at 2 am?
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when's the last time it hit 115[SUP]o[/SUP] F in a US ballpark?

FYI, in case you haven't noticed, most MLB weekday games in July and August ARE played at night. :rolleyes:
 
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unofan said:
For the same reason we don't play baseball games in July at 2 am?
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Sure, but let's be realistic: FIFA cares way more about the TV money than about the people who are actually going to the games. 2am in Qatar is prime time in the Eastern USA and much of South America, late afternoon in the Western USA, 8am in Tokyo, midnight in the UK. It's optimal timing for their TV market. Well, maybe a couple of hours earlier to make it tolerable in Central Europe, but you get the idea.
 
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Soccer already does enough to put people to sleep. Playing in the middle of the night is really pushing it.
 
FreshFish said:
when's the last time it hit 115[SUP]o[/SUP] F in a US ballpark?
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If I had to guess, probably 10 years ago or so when the cardinals were still paying on astroturf at old Busch stadium. The field level temperatures were often over 110.

And no **** they play at night. Key word night, not early morning. When was the last time an mlb game started at 2 am?
 
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unofan said:
If I had to guess, probably 10 years ago or so when the cardinals were still paying on astroturf at old Busch stadium. The field level temperatures were often over 110.

And no **** they play at night. Key word night, not early morning. When was the last time an mlb game started at 2 am?
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The Tigers started at midnight before, didn't finish until 3:30.
 
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jmh said:
Sure, but let's be realistic: FIFA cares way more about the TV money than about the people who are actually going to the games. 2am in Qatar is prime time in the Eastern USA and much of South America, late afternoon in the Western USA, 8am in Tokyo, midnight in the UK. It's optimal timing for their TV market. Well, maybe a couple of hours earlier to make it tolerable in Central Europe, but you get the idea.
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Here's a radical concept. Don't hold it there. The Qataris are using slave labor, bribed officials and caused a crap storm. FIFA needs to do the world a favor and move it. I know you love the Cup being on in primetime, but I don't feel like seeing players drop like flies. It's still farking hot. However, FIFA hates America and the English. Heck, let the Aussies have it. I think Sunil needs to go because he's not putting up enough of a stink over this. (Along with the Hope Solo mess.)
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
Here's a radical concept. Don't hold it there. The Qataris are using slave labor, bribed officials and caused a crap storm. FIFA needs to do the world a favor and move it. I know you love the Cup being on in primetime, but I don't feel like seeing players drop like flies. It's still farking hot. However, FIFA hates America and the English. Heck, let the Aussies have it. I think Sunil needs to go because he's not putting up enough of a stink over this. (Along with the Hope Solo mess.)
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Right, I agree with you. Qatar is so stupid in so many ways. I'm not saying I love it, I'm saying that FIFA would probably see it that way because they'd rather come up with some patchwork solution like that than admit that it was a bad idea from the start.
 
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jmh said:
Right, I agree with you. Qatar is so stupid in so many ways. I'm not saying I love it, I'm saying that FIFA would probably see it that way because they'd rather come up with some patchwork solution like that than admit that it was a bad idea from the start.
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But if FIFA moves the WC from Qatar, wouldn't they have to refund the bribes?
 
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jmh said:
Right, I agree with you. Qatar is so stupid in so many ways. I'm not saying I love it, I'm saying that FIFA would probably see it that way because they'd rather come up with some patchwork solution like that than admit that it was a bad idea from the start.
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I think it's a lot more straightforward than that.

Cancel Qatar --> Some Guy Loses Money --> That Guy Sues --> Discovery Phase --> Massive Bribery Scandal

Qatar obviously bribed FIFA officials. As long as those officials can control any investigation they get to keep the money and stay out of jail.
 
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