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Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. XXVI: Make him an offer he can't refuse

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Could it be he wasn't interested in Wisconsin? Just a hypothetical, but being a Verona native, could he just want to get away from the Madison area?

Like Chuck said, UW has hit on a great group of 97's thus far, and I am sure Eaves will continue to build around his '96s and '97s
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
Remember, UW hit on three of its top targets for 97-forwards already with Brock Boeser, Matthew Freytag and Luke Kunin. Those three were more of a priority than Baker over the summer. And that's not a knock on Tarek, because I think he's a really good player.
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Added in Malone does not seem like any possibility of accelerating his schooling, and he is another of the 2015 possibilities already in the pipeline. I'm way more worried with who/what we can add for next year where we easily have 4 holes to fill.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
On a related note, I've heard more than a few times that Eaves & Co. often project an attitude that Wisconsin native players should want to play for the Badgers enough that they'll wait around for the call.
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Could be true. Judging from a remark I heard came from Baker's mom, it sounded like UW thought it could sleep walk its way into getting him. She is a UW alum too so I am sure that may have gave their staff the idea that he'd be an easy catch.

Frankly, it is the same kind of story I heard with Nate Condon several years ago so there might be some merit to what you are saying.
 
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herbst20 said:
Could it be he wasn't interested in Wisconsin? Just a hypothetical, but being a Verona native, could he just want to get away from the Madison area?
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Of course.

I'm hoping my own kid leaves town for school.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
All kidding aside about choices, I don't see this being anything like the last local kid who made that wrong choice. Good luck to him.
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Are you referring to Phil Kessel? Because that ended pretty well. Amanda on the other hand...
 
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Given the other holes they need to fill, it's not hard to understand why they might not have put a lot of resources into Baker at this point. Given what they already have committed for that time frame and the players still available, it wasn't a must-have. You certainly would have liked a talented kid like that, but there are other needs at the moment.

Good for Tarek, he'll be a solid player.
 
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WiscDC said:
Are you referring to Phil Kessel? Because that ended pretty well. Amanda on the other hand...
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I don't think it ended well in all facets.

Us winning a title and him (them) not is of course wonderful.

The acrimony that is still noticeable in these parts is nothing to be proud of - and to be fair, I still exhibit some myself although in general, I hope he has success in the NHL and certainly will be rooting hard for him in the Olympics.

Time passing & hindsight along with maturity & understanding that comes with being a parent of a child who wants to make his own decisions has taught me that the decision wasn't as black and white as I thought back then.

I'll still hold out that he could have chosen any other school though... :mad::D
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
Given the other holes they need to fill, it's not hard to understand why they might not have put a lot of resources into Baker at this point. Given what they already have committed for that time frame and the players still available, it wasn't a must-have. You certainly would have liked a talented kid like that, but there are other needs at the moment.

Good for Tarek, he'll be a solid player.
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Probably selling him a bit short. The word I am hearing around pro scouting circles is he is projected to be better than a few of the kids you mentioned as priorities for UW.
 
Hammy said:
Probably selling him a bit short. The word I am hearing around pro scouting circles is he is projected to be better than a few of the kids you mentioned as priorities for UW.
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Maybe. Not really interested in how they project as professionals, however. I've watched each a few times and have my own opinions.
 
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Didn't say anything about professional projection. Just said the scouts were professionals that have been doing it for a long time. I feel I have to make it clear on what level of scout they are because there are so many wannabes these days that call themselves a "scout" simply because they write for a blog or a website.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I don't think it ended well in all facets.

Us winning a title and him (them) not is of course wonderful.

The acrimony that is still noticeable in these parts is nothing to be proud of - and to be fair, I still exhibit some myself although in general, I hope he has success in the NHL and certainly will be rooting hard for him in the Olympics.

Time passing & hindsight along with maturity & understanding that comes with being a parent of a child who wants to make his own decisions has taught me that the decision wasn't as black and white as I thought back then.

I'll still hold out that he could have chosen any other school though... :mad::D
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I'll admit that my distaste of the whole (Phil) Kessel thing is very weak, as I learned about it well after the fact, already knowing that the Badgers won the national championship that year. Also, I don't have a great idea of what was going on before that 2005-06 season, other than it made the Kohl Center fans boo him when he touched the puck. It's all history that I've had to learn, as opposed to watching him on Team USA. I've seen that video of his first goal at the Kohl Center, and it does fire up the "I hate the Gophers" part of my brain.

Honestly, I kind of like that there were enough people paying close attention to Wisconsin hockey recruiting that there were audible boos before he even scored.
 
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Hammy said:
Didn't say anything about professional projection. Just said the scouts were professionals that have been doing it for a long time. I feel I have to make it clear on what level of scout they are because there are so many wannabes these days that call themselves a "scout" simply because they write for a blog or a website.
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You don't play very nice...

:p
 
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WiscDC said:
I'll admit that my distaste of the whole (Phil) Kessel thing is very weak, as I learned about it well after the fact, already knowing that the Badgers won the national championship that year. Also, I don't have a great idea of what was going on before that 2005-06 season, other than it made the Kohl Center fans boo him when he touched the puck. It's all history that I've had to learn, as opposed to watching him on Team USA. I've seen that video of his first goal at the Kohl Center, and it does fire up the "I hate the Gophers" part of my brain.

Honestly, I kind of like that there were enough people paying close attention to Wisconsin hockey recruiting that there were audible boos before he even scored.
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It was totally different. There was a ton of press about his choice long before he made it and he was touted as the most gifted player to ever come out of the Madison area. He was groomed and coached by former Badgers while growing up. Etc, etc, etc...

It was a shock as most of those supposedly in the know stated that he'd make the "right choice."


Felt like a huge betrayal at the time, but again, he had his reasons, has to live with them and seems to be doing fine for himself other than incurring John Scott's wrath. :eek:


Let me ask this to my fellow Badger fans. If you had an offensively gifted player that was being recruited by the top D-1 programs, would you really want him to go with Eaves over all other choices?

If you lived in Madison, would you want your kid to stay here - where he grew up - or would you want him to experience something new?

If UW made you feel like you needed them more than they needed your boy, would that tick you off?

Take your fandom out of the equation (if you can) and think about it.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Let me ask this to my fellow Badger fans. If you had an offensively gifted player that was being recruited by the top D-1 programs, would you really want him to go with Eaves over all other choices?
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That's why I'm still baffled by Besse's choice.
 
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WiscDC said:
I'll admit that my distaste of the whole (Phil) Kessel thing is very weak, as I learned about it well after the fact, already knowing that the Badgers won the national championship that year. Also, I don't have a great idea of what was going on before that 2005-06 season, other than it made the Kohl Center fans boo him when he touched the puck. It's all history that I've had to learn, as opposed to watching him on Team USA. I've seen that video of his first goal at the Kohl Center, and it does fire up the "I hate the Gophers" part of my brain.

Honestly, I kind of like that there were enough people paying close attention to Wisconsin hockey recruiting that there were audible boos before he even scored.
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A little more history on this topic. Here's how Phil's season ended...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnRfpcc3LZA
 
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Oh boy, here we go...
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
Verona's Tarek Baker commits to Minnesota. Badgers came late to the party on this one.
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Late to the party? How is it even possible? I am under the impression this kid is an elite player.
 
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4four4 said:
I am under the impression this kid is an elite player.
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He is, and has been.

I remember when he went to a USA Hockey eval. camp a couple of years ago and heard that he was the top rated kid at his position for his birth year.

Maybe someone else can confirm this and I'm not sure if that was just at that camp or if it was nationwide.

Heard it from the gossiping dads. ;)


If it's true that he's playing for Janesville though, I gotta think that's a step back as they're small time. I looked on their website and he's not listed. I thought he was still with the NTDP, but to be honest, his name hasn't come up (before the last 12 hours) in quite a while so I lost track.
 
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