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Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

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I've been seeing lots of profiles and mocks lately.

Here are a couple:

The Athletic ($)
Mock Draft with your typical Hughes/Kakko at 1/2. Turcotte at 3 to Chicago and Caufield to Vancouver at 10

ESPN+ ($)
Chris Peters put together a "How all 31 teams ace their picks" mock.
Turcotte to Chicago in the first (3)
Caufield to Detroit in the first (6)

Turcotte following Toews' path?
Third pick in the draft, a year in college, then off to the Blackhawks to eventually be captain. Toews did it, can Turcotte?

Combine Results
Caufield with 16 pull-ups, tied for first; 6th in the vertical; 7th in the bench
Lindmark third in peak power on the Wingate
 
KaMiGo said:
I've been seeing lots of profiles and mocks lately.

Here are a couple:

The Athletic ($)
Mock Draft with your typical Hughes/Kakko at 1/2. Turcotte at 3 to Chicago and Caufield to Vancouver at 10

ESPN+ ($)
Chris Peters put together a "How all 31 teams ace their picks" mock.
Turcotte to Chicago in the first (3)
Caufield to Detroit in the first (6)

Turcotte following Toews' path?
Third pick in the draft, a year in college, then off to the Blackhawks to eventually be captain. Toews did it, can Turcotte?

Combine Results
Caufield with 16 pull-ups, tied for first; 6th in the vertical; 7th in the bench
Lindmark third in peak power on the Wingate
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Toews played 2 years at Nodak. I believe Oshie played 3 fwiw.
 
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

Top 15 drafted forwards since 2010:
Tkachuk 1 year
Wahlstrom 1 year
Farabee 1 year
Mittelstadt 1 year
Keller 1 year
Jost 1 year
Eichel 1 year
Larkin 1 year
Kunin 2 years (Pick 15)
Schwartz 2 years (Pick 14)
 
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Bonin21 said:
Top 15 drafted forwards since 2010:
Tkachuk 1 year
Wahlstrom 1 year
Farabee 1 year
Mittelstadt 1 year
Keller 1 year
Jost 1 year
Eichel 1 year
Larkin 1 year
Kunin 2 years (Pick 15)
Schwartz 2 years (Pick 14)
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None are as "diminutive" (as I have heard others say) as Caufield. He gets 3 years. Turcotte seems like a sure fired 1 year guy. Holloway will probably be a 2 year guy, maybe 3.
 
Bonin21 said:
Top 15 drafted forwards since 2010:
Tkachuk 1 year
Wahlstrom 1 year
Farabee 1 year
Mittelstadt 1 year
Keller 1 year
Jost 1 year
Eichel 1 year
Larkin 1 year
Kunin 2 years (Pick 15)
Schwartz 2 years (Pick 14)
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How many of these guys made an impact in their first two years in the show?
 
Timothy A said:
None are as "diminutive" (as I have heard others say) as Caufield. He gets 3 years. Turcotte seems like a sure fired 1 year guy. Holloway will probably be a 2 year guy, maybe 3.
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I'd be more surprised if Cole Caufield plays three years at UW than I would be if he's one-and-done. He's not like a better Besse; he's a top prospect. Alex DeBrincat played a full NHL season in his draft+2 year. Gaudreau did stay at BC for a 3rd year, but I think that's even further from Caufield's situation. (To be honest, I can't remember if Gaudreau was perceived as a flight risk after his sophormore year, but I would think so.)

Caufield already has more high-level experience than either of those two did when they were drafted, and he's more highly rated than those two were at the same age. (That's not to say "they" are saying he projects to be higher than real-life Gaudreau knowing what we know now -- I'm just comparing how pro clubs saw these players at this point in the process.)

What actually ends up happening this season and what the guy wants to do matter most, but in playing the guessing game, I'm not betting on C Caufield being a 3 year player.
 
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WiscDC said:
I'd be more surprised if Cole Caufield plays three years at UW than I would be if he's one-and-done. He's not like a better Besse; he's a top prospect. Alex DeBrincat played a full NHL season in his draft+2 year. Gaudreau did stay at BC for a 3rd year, but I think that's even further from Caufield's situation. (To be honest, I can't remember if Gaudreau was perceived as a flight risk after his sophormore year, but I would think so.)

Caufield already has more high-level experience than either of those two did when they were drafted, and he's more highly rated than those two were at the same age. (That's not to say "they" are saying he projects to be higher than real-life Gaudreau knowing what we know now -- I'm just comparing how pro clubs saw these players at this point in the process.)

What actually ends up happening this season and what the guy wants to do matter most, but in playing the guessing game, I'm not betting on C Caufield being a 3 year player.
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The 3 years is just based on how "tiny" everyone says he is. If UW gets 2 I'll be really happy.
 
Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. IV - It's all coming together

If you get seven years combined out of those three you should be happy. Anything more is a bonus. Anything less I could see being frustrated.
 
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Holloway's rights traded to Winnipeg in the WHL. They will be doing a full court press for the next couple months to change his mind.
 
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Bonin21 said:
Holloway's rights traded to Winnipeg in the WHL. They will be doing a full court press for the next couple months to change his mind.
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He reiterated his commitment to UW per TdM, not that it's a slam dunk or anything.
 
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Chi town here he comes
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Bo, I'm actually expecting that. Local kid, Blackhawks fan, Patrick Kane is his man....Cinderella story kind of like Edzo in 1984.
I DO see the Blackhawks getting better with young Jeremy Colliton, but as an Avs fan, it sucks for me!
 
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Unless there's something we don't know about Alex physically, which I don't think there is, Chicago would be dumb to pass on him. IMO he's easily the 3rd best player in the draft, even though I see mocks with him in Detroit or even further down. He's a #1 C that does everything for you. You can't put a high enough value on that kind of player. Guys like Bergeron and Pavelski that do it all, they're pretty hard to come by, and not surprisingly, their teams have done pretty well behind them in today's game.

We'll find out soon, plus we'll see just how much value the scouts have finally put on King Cole. I was a skeptic a year ago but he sold me this last year. Kid is unbelievable. LA should definitely pull the trigger on him.
 
Wisko McBadgerton said:
Unless there's something we don't know about Alex physically, which I don't think there is, Chicago would be dumb to pass on him. IMO he's easily the 3rd best player in the draft, even though I see mocks with him in Detroit or even further down. He's a #1 C that does everything for you. You can't put a high enough value on that kind of player. Guys like Bergeron and Pavelski that do it all, they're pretty hard to come by, and not surprisingly, their teams have done pretty well behind them in today's game.

We'll find out soon, plus we'll see just how much value the scouts have finally put on King Cole. I was a skeptic a year ago but he sold me this last year. Kid is unbelievable. LA should definitely pull the trigger on him.
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I guess Colorado needed a big defenseman more than a top center. Too bad Turcotte is heading for one of the worst franchises in the NHL. ****.

Apparently some of these franchises have not learned that size doesn't matter these days.
 
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Rich is it good or bad as a badger fan he went to the Kings?
 
WiscTJK said:
Rich is it good or bad as a badger fan he went to the Kings?
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They're rebuilding with a new coach. That might point towards starting young with some veterans mixed in. I wanted to see Alex in CO because #1, Im an Avs fan and #2, they're loaded up front and might have waited for him to develop and grow.

ALL BETS are on the table now....I don't like it as a Badgers fan.
 
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I kind of like it because I gotta believe Luc Robitaille is going to trust his old King's teammate, Tony Granato, with his guy as much or more than anybody else.
 
Wisko McBadgerton said:
I kind of like it because I gotta believe Luc Robitaille is going to trust his old King's teammate, Tony Granato, with his guy as much or more than anybody else.
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That's possible Wisco, but it's a business. Luc might not give a ****.

With this upcoming trade, I hope Caufield doesn't end up in AZ.

EDIT: Nope! Maybe he'll be close to home in Saint-Paul.

EDIT: Nope! Caufield is dropping like a rock in thin air.
He was ranked as high as #8 and he's still sitting.

#14 Philly is on the clock. Will he go there? #15 Montréal? #16 My Avalanche?
 
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