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Wisconsin Recruiting: Filling the foundation with 5 stars

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Chuck Schwartz said:
I don't think we're avoiding it. I can tell you for a FACT that Gary Shuchuk has made multiple trips up to western Canada in fact he was just up there a few weeks ago for the BCHL showcase. Sometimes that's just the way things work out. Wisconsin has been killing it in the Chicago AAA area lately. Which kid is more likely to bolt for major junior, a kid out of Chicago or a kid out of Canada. Sometimes you have to be smart about the kids you're bringing in. It's ok to take a risk or two here and there, but the Badgers have had a lot of success recently with kids from Illinois and within the state of Wisconsin. There is nothing to be concerned about.
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Isn't Shuchuck from Western Canada? I'm guessing he has roots there but is just taking time to get in all the niches that Oz had.

And Chuck is right, when you can pull 4 kids from just south of here who are top notch talents there is nothing to worry about.

I know nothing about this new recruit though. Might have to check Ashwauebon's schedule.
 
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Gandalf the Red said:
Isn't Shuchuck from Western Canada? I'm guessing he has roots there but is just taking time to get in all the niches that Oz had.

And Chuck is right, when you can pull 4 kids from just south of here who are top notch talents there is nothing to worry about.

I know nothing about this new recruit though. Might have to check Ashwauebon's schedule.
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Shuey is from the Edmonton area. He's got some good connections up there.
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
I don't think we're avoiding it. I can tell you for a FACT that Gary Shuchuk has made multiple trips up to western Canada in fact he was just up there a few weeks ago for the BCHL showcase. Sometimes that's just the way things work out. Wisconsin has been killing it in the Chicago AAA area lately. Which kid is more likely to bolt for major junior, a kid out of Chicago or a kid out of Canada. Sometimes you have to be smart about the kids you're bringing in. It's ok to take a risk or two here and there, but the Badgers have had a lot of success recently with kids from Illinois and within the state of Wisconsin. There is nothing to be concerned about.
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My point of view is that unless a player from Canada projects to be a clear top 6 forward or top 4 D from day one, given the out of state tuition it isn't really cost effective (in terms of scholarship money) in bringing in Canadians to be role players. IIRC, it takes about 1/3 a scholarship to get the cost of attendance for someone paying out of state tuition down to what someone from WI pays with in-state tuition (or any state provided that tuition reciprocity exists). Given that teams only get 18 scholarships and have ~25 players on a roster, you have to use tuition money as effectively as possible.
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
Wisconsin has been killing it in the Chicago AAA area lately. There is nothing to be concerned about.
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Until I see these AAA Chicago felles rip it up in college for UW, I'll be a bit on the doubtful side on their talent, but I wouldn't use the word "concerned", just maybe paranoid?

Would you equate playing at the level of AAA to that of the BCHL?
 
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Timothy A said:
Until I see these AAA Chicago felles rip it up in college for UW, I'll be a bit on the doubtful side on their talent, but I wouldn't use the word "concerned", just maybe paranoid?

Would you equate playing at the level of AAA to that of the BCHL?
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Someone else can probably answer this a tad more concisely, but from my prespective, AAA is the minor leagues for the USHL. All of these kids are going to end up on the USHL for a year or two after playing AAA hockey before coming to UW. I think Seamus Malone is playing in Dubuque this season.

The BCHL is a good league, and UW has had some great players from there the last 5+ years, but the USHL is better IMO (and getting better every year), and the AAA Midget Major hockey feeds that.

It is fair to be paranoid, there is no sure formula for recruiting, but I think Eaves has done a great job of getting top "local" talent. I'm sure the BCHL train will arrive w/ more talent for UW in the future.
 
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Timothy A said:
Until I see these AAA Chicago felles rip it up in college for UW, I'll be a bit on the doubtful side on their talent, but I wouldn't use the word "concerned", just maybe paranoid?

Would you equate playing at the level of AAA to that of the BCHL?
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No, but all these kids are going to be playing in the USHL. Jake Linhart and Seamus Malone have already made the jump as 16 year olds into the USHL. Peter Tischke and Christian Dvorak will do the same next year.
 
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Credit where credit is due, Grunwald played pretty well stopping 18/19 shots in a 4-1 win. Hopefully they start giving him some more starts so we can get a better feel.
 
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So Chuck, are there any guys UW could bring in that could be more than just roster filler if Kerdiles hits the eject button? Obviously there's no one even close to his caliber that is not signed, but is there anyone out there who is worth typing about? If Kerdiles ejects, I'd just give his cash to some partial guys this season otherwise.

As far as next season, could Eaves land someone of Kerdiles' ability given he has a full (assumed) scholarship to use?
 
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I highly doubt that someone close to Kerdiles's level could be brought in next year at this point. First, the pool of first round caliber players looking at the college route is fairly shallow to begin with and those guys are generally already committed. Kerdiles had been committed 2.5 years prior to showing up on campus and that is fairly typical of the elite level recruit. You can certainly find a late bloomer that can help at the college level for next fall at this point, but think solid-very good as opposed to elite level player.
 
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Timothy A said:
So Chuck, are there any guys UW could bring in that could be more than just roster filler if Kerdiles hits the eject button? Obviously there's no one even close to his caliber that is not signed, but is there anyone out there who is worth typing about? If Kerdiles ejects, I'd just give his cash to some partial guys this season otherwise.

As far as next season, could Eaves land someone of Kerdiles' ability given he has a full (assumed) scholarship to use?
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Well, the semester started five weeks ago so they are well past the point of bringing anyone in now. Technically they could bring someone in for second semester, but that would be shocking.

As for next year, like Wojo said...there aren't a lot of elite guys out there. There are good players, but no one close to Kerdiles' level.
 
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markwojo said:
I highly doubt that someone close to Kerdiles's level could be brought in next year at this point. First, the pool of first round caliber players looking at the college route is fairly shallow to begin with and those guys are generally already committed. Kerdiles had been committed 2.5 years prior to showing up on campus and that is fairly typical of the elite level recruit. You can certainly find a late bloomer that can help at the college level for next fall at this point, but think solid-very good as opposed to elite level player.
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Good point about Kerdiles/elites being committed for 2.5 years. UW only loses 2 F next year to graduation, so IF everyone stays, I'm not sure how much he will be missed. But if any combo of Zengerlee, Mersch, Barnes bail, they will desperately need him. If everyone stays, UW will be a mega power with or without Kerdiles.
 
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...if Kerdiles ends up leaving does Eaves bring Besse in next season foregoing USHL seasoning?
 
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solovsfett said:
...if Kerdiles ends up leaving does Eaves bring Besse in next season foregoing USHL seasoning?
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Depends on how some other things work out. If they don't like who's still available on the market, it's certainly possible. Obviously they'd like to save him for 2014.
 
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Sounds like we could have a couple kids to keep an eye on at Benilde this season. Transfer d-man Johnny Austin is on the radar.
 
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Two USHL notes today. Christian Dvorak will be making his USHL debut with the Chicago Steel this weekend. Also, Peter Tischke had his rights traded from Des Moines to Chicago, although he's expected to stay with the Mission U18's for now.

I'm also hoping to watch UW's latest recruit Matt Berkovitz in Duluth this weekend.
 
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I'm also hoping to watch UW's latest recruit Matt Berkovitz in Duluth this weekend.


I hope you get to see Berkovitz. I'd be interested to hear more about him.

Team Wisconsin Minor jumped to 9th in the country after winning the Warriors AAA Invitational in Troy, MI last weekend. They outscored opponents 27-2 in 6 games. I guess after playing the #3 (Shattuck),# 5 (Mission) & #6 (St. Louis Blues) teams in the country in 8 out of your first 10 games you are ready for anyone.

Berkovitz leads TW Minor in assists with 18 and is third in overall points (2 goals, 18 assists for 20 points).
 
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DPlaya said:
I'm also hoping to watch UW's latest recruit Matt Berkovitz in Duluth this weekend.


I hope you get to see Berkovitz. I'd be interested to hear more about him.

Team Wisconsin Minor jumped to 9th in the country after winning the Warriors AAA Invitational in Troy, MI last weekend. They outscored opponents 27-2 in 6 games. I guess after playing the #3 (Shattuck),# 5 (Mission) & #6 (St. Louis Blues) teams in the country in 8 out of your first 10 games you are ready for anyone.

Berkovitz leads TW Minor in assists with 18 and is third in overall points (2 goals, 18 assists for 20 points).
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His HS team plays at Middleton on December 15th for anyone looking to see Berkovitz play in the Madison area. I plan on going.
 
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DPlaya said:
There was some chatter in this thread about Keegan Ford's brother Jason. He is with Janesville in the NAHL now, and no longer with Dubuque in the USHL. I had noticed that Janesville had him on their roster last week, and he has been playing in the NAHL Showcase for the last 3 days with Janesville. Austin Vieth from Notre Dame Academy who was injured his entire Senior year (last season) has 3 goals and 3 assists in 3 games for Janesville. Chicago in the USHL held his rights at one point. Vieth's injury was a shoulder if I remember correctly and he had it surgically repaired last year right after the start of the Elite League.
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just a heads up....Jason Ford has commited to Bemidji.... http://collegehockeyinc.com/stats/commitments.php
 
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