Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

[RaceBoarder]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

That's it - time to make our own banners.

I know I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think this might be an option...

- Have students show up at the next home game with homemade banners... Drape them over the 2nd/3rd balconies in the student section.... I know the Kohl is tight on signs and stuff, so wait till you have a ton of people in there to make your point... A bed sheet can easily be concealed and taken in... Acknowledge the teams that you need to honor... Also include something like "We're putting this up since the AD took the old banners away" on there... "Where's our banners?" chants would also make the point...

Just have your fanbase get vocal and stay vocal on the matter... Prove your point...


(It's kinda fun to stir the pot elsewhere )

 

[Greyeagle]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Geesh, and I thought the MN Athletic Department did moronic things.

 

[solovsfett]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

It's really not that difficult.

1) Banners for the national championship teams. They deserve it.

2) Banners that have multiple listings for the conference and tourney titles.

3) Duplicate it if you want on the second ring.


Solved. Where do I send my resume?

Nice of the mouth piece to respond, but it's still "stupid" to remove the national championship banners.

Gurt - totally agree

now rant:

jesus christ, just after my Dad sent an email to the Badger Fund people explaining why they're losing attendance now this bull****.

I don't think us whining on this board or on fb or twitter will stop Alvarez. CALL HIM NOW!

Alvarez, Barry Administration Director of Athletics 608.262.1866
Bjorling, Dale Administration Athletic Board Member
Cerniglia, Michael Administration Assistant To The Athletic Director 608.262.0147
Dickey, Walter Administration Senior Associate Athletic Director 608.265.2973
Doherty, Justin M. Administration Associate Athletic Director for External Relations 608.262.9023
Eoff, Breanne Administration Administrative Assistant 608.265.4135
Gawlik, Terry Administration Senior Associate Athletic Director/SWA 608.265.4987
King, Jason Administration Associate Athletic Director 608.262.7974
Marnocha, Randy Administration Associate Athletic Director 608.262.5118
Pientka, Marija Administration Associate Athletic Director 608.263.7692
Schmidt, Jeff Administration Assistant Athletic Director 608.262.3602
Tiedt, Doug Administration Associate Athletic Director 608.263.1681
Uttech, Jackie Administration Administrative Assistant 608.262.8009
Van De Velde, Bruce Administration Senior Associate Athletic Director 608.890.2017
Vickers, Jay Administration Senior Assistant Athletic Director 608.265.2152
Wilkins, Linda Administration Administrative Assistant 608.263.5581

I left Cerniglia a message just now. You can bet I'll be calling ole Barry tomorrow (after I calm down a bit)

edited to remove the Barry bit, a bit unnecessary for right now.

Also to the point about the United Center, they're beautiful-

 

[LordofBrewtown]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

A few things to comment on:

Concession stand lines were too long on Saturday/too many windows closed. Personally, I prefer RC to coke/pepsi & no matter what choices are available, someone will be upset - so that part doesn't bother me. But, the # of open stands was a problem.

Scoreboards - the few live lookins were nice. However, the smaller scoreboards in the corners were turned off - those would run other scores from around the country in past years. Another thing they have apparently decided to stop doing that is NOT OK with me, & that should NOT be that hard to do.

Student section: I commend the attempts by some students to get some chants going - but still not enough. Plus: The 'boring helmut' chant, and I heard the Hit Somebody/Anybody for the first few times in a while. Minus: Students failed to join in when nearby sections started the Hit Somebody chants, still need more stuff similar to the 'boring helmut' chants. The Sieve chants of the last 5 years or so just don't compare the old days - way too short. Also, when that horn went of by mistake in the first period, in the past students would've been all over that with a "you f**d up" chant.

Band: Still felt like they just aren't into it like they used to be.

Banners. Just Wow. Guess I'm going to have to make some calls. Barry really should be fired as AD - although that will never happen. Every program we have - with the possible exception of Men's Basketball - is worse or no better under his reign than Richter's.

 

[solovsfett]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

A few things to comment on:

Concession stand lines were too long on Saturday/too many windows closed. Personally, I prefer RC to coke/pepsi & no matter what choices are available, someone will be upset - so that part doesn't bother me. But, the # of open stands was a problem.

Scoreboards - the few live lookins were nice. However, the smaller scoreboards in the corners were turned off - those would run other scores from around the country in past years. Another thing they have apparently decided to stop doing that is NOT OK with me, & that should NOT be that hard to do.

Student section: I commend the attempts by some students to get some chants going - but still not enough. Plus: The 'boring helmut' chant, and I heard the Hit Somebody/Anybody for the first few times in a while. Minus: Students failed to join in when nearby sections started the Hit Somebody chants, still need more stuff similar to the 'boring helmut' chants. The Sieve chants of the last 5 years or so just don't compare the old days - way too short. Also, when that horn went of by mistake in the first period, in the past students would've been all over that with a "you f**d up" chant.

Band: Still felt like they just aren't into it like they used to be.

Banners. Just Wow. Guess I'm going to have to make some calls. Barry really should be fired as AD - although that will never happen. Every program we have - with the possible exception of Men's Basketball - is worse or no better under his reign than Richter's.

well to be fair Football is significantly improved under Alvarez. Basketball is fine and has been since Stu Jackson or just before that. Hockey has been up and down under Alvarez, but the main gripe is the UW Hockey team has been treated like a red-headed step-child under the current AD. See his quote below in the sig.

if you call, be polite. any amount of vitriol is going to be counterproductive. I made my point to cerniglia in the voicemail: parking, concessions, canned music, banners being taken down, not allowing kids to bring in signs or "gophers on a stick" etc, blue-line club. One may think some of this is nitpicking but the crowd saturday night was estimated at around 6,000 live bodies, and after last season's lackluster attendance (for UW) it would seem one or more of the above have added up to a disaster in terms of game attendance.

don't take my emo first post too literally, if and when you send an email or make a call, think about it for a while first. The Badger Hockey team is a class act/team/organIzation and we should be too when we communicate w/UW Admin...

at least that's my .02

 

[WiscDC]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Student section: I commend the attempts by some students to get some chants going - but still not enough. Plus: The 'boring helmut' chant, and I heard the Hit Somebody/Anybody for the first few times in a while. Minus: Students failed to join in when nearby sections started the Hit Somebody chants, still need more stuff similar to the 'boring helmut' chants. The Sieve chants of the last 5 years or so just don't compare the old days - way too short. Also, when that horn went of by mistake in the first period, in the past students would've been all over that with a "you f**d up" chant.

On Friday we did stuff in the same spirit as "boring helmet" (the goalie had no water, so "where's your water" and "dehydration" came out). I don't think most of the most vocal Crease Creatures (myself included) really like the "you f**d up" chant...it's vulgar without much humor (we quickly silenced a short outburst of "shoot him like a horse," for example). We're more likely to do a "sieve" chant at whomever screwed up. I'm not sure who has their finger on the horn, though. Example: At a women's game last year, when the announcer failed to remind us how much time was left, we did a "sieve" chant pointing to the table between the penalty boxes, where PA guy goes. Other situational stuff is tough, because you need some kind of opportunity. I remember when UNO had a really short player 2 years ago, we did "too short to play" for him, and in the WCHA playoff series last spring, when the goalie signaled his stick broke and skated to the bench to get a new one, "that won't help you" was the chant. Funny things are yelled through the cracks in the glass. Stuff in that spirit is still pretty frequent, as much as the old folks act like everything sucks now.

"Hit somebody/anybody" has been done very regularly in the past couple of years. It's usually one of the first of the quick all-purpose hockey chants recited in the game. And although it's not that audible, some folks in the front of section O do it at football games for kickoffs when the ball is in the air.

One big problem is that the band moved from 116 to 117. The farther the average student is from the percussion, the harder it is to do the power play song in unison, and it sounds less cool. It's awesome when everyone's in sync.

Lastly, students get the chants down as the season goes on. I remember opening weekend vs NMU when I was a freshman, looking around and laughing with my other freshman friends when I heard chants for the first time. Now I start them a lot.

 

[WiscDC]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

I know I don't have a dog in this fight, but I think this might be an option...

- Have students show up at the next home game with homemade banners... Drape them over the 2nd/3rd balconies in the student section.... I know the Kohl is tight on signs and stuff, so wait till you have a ton of people in there to make your point... A bed sheet can easily be concealed and taken in... Acknowledge the teams that you need to honor... Also include something like "We're putting this up since the AD took the old banners away" on there... "Where's our banners?" chants would also make the point...

Just have your fanbase get vocal and stay vocal on the matter... Prove your point...


(It's kinda fun to stir the pot elsewhere )

I'm thinking many small-ish signs that have one championship year on them. It would be all 6 of those years, but several times each.

 

[Bonin21]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

It's easy for you to say, Greyeagle--NC banners at Mariucci don't take up as much space.

Guessing you don't know how many national championship banners there are at Mariucci. Also, 28 WCHA trophies vs. 15. They only hang some of the WCHA ones, which I think is lame.

 

[Bonin21]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Five. And two club championship banners, just to keep up with the Joneses.

That's actually wrong, too.

 

[SatNightFever]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

I am guessing that BA didn't see Bannergate going so viral today...not that he would get it anyway, since he "isn't a hockey guy" anyways. Have to hope the basketball folks are as against this as much as we are - otherwise to some we will just look like "those crazy hockey people".

Which on some level maybe we are!

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Here's how I just summed up the situation for a group of my college friends today (some are Friday night hockey ticket holders, most are bigger football fans, and most of them care about basketball to some degree):

Interesting follow up on the whole "banners" issue at the Kohl Center:

http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/201...ce-championship-banners-with-phony-electronic

http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2013/10/15/4841618/kohl-center-banners

Short story: The championship banners at the Kohl Center are no more (this goes for bouncyball as well as for hockey). It was originally reported by Andy Baggott that conference/national titles would instead be displayed on an electronic banner during games for their respective sport, but that's either not the case or the UW AD has quickly claimed that they will instead be lettering fixed permanently into the concrete below one of the upper decks. If you're having trouble picturing that, just picture the kind of thing you see for championships/retired numbers at Camp Randall and Lambeau, and no I don't think it's a coincidence that those would be the points of reference.

This is our AD (department or director, I suppose) at work. If it ain't broke, they'll fix it anyway. Tradition be ****ed, everything's going to be modeled after the football program in the exact way they do it. Now all the basketball and hockey teams need to do is go back in time, never win a national title, and be mostly irrelevant on the national stage for almost 100 years.

 

[LordofBrewtown]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

On Friday we did stuff in the same spirit as "boring helmet" (the goalie had no water, so "where's your water" and "dehydration" came out). I don't think most of the most vocal Crease Creatures (myself included) really like the "you f**d up" chant...it's vulgar without much humor (we quickly silenced a short outburst of "shoot him like a horse," for example). We're more likely to do a "sieve" chant at whomever screwed up. I'm not sure who has their finger on the horn, though. Example: At a women's game last year, when the announcer failed to remind us how much time was left, we did a "sieve" chant pointing to the table between the penalty boxes, where PA guy goes. Other situational stuff is tough, because you need some kind of opportunity. I remember when UNO had a really short player 2 years ago, we did "too short to play" for him, and in the WCHA playoff series last spring, when the goalie signaled his stick broke and skated to the bench to get a new one, "that won't help you" was the chant. Funny things are yelled through the cracks in the glass. Stuff in that spirit is still pretty frequent, as much as the old folks act like everything sucks now.

"Hit somebody/anybody" has been done very regularly in the past couple of years. It's usually one of the first of the quick all-purpose hockey chants recited in the game. And although it's not that audible, some folks in the front of section O do it at football games for kickoffs when the ball is in the air.

One big problem is that the band moved from 116 to 117. The farther the average student is from the percussion, the harder it is to do the power play song in unison, and it sounds less cool. It's awesome when everyone's in sync.

Lastly, students get the chants down as the season goes on. I remember opening weekend vs NMU when I was a freshman, looking around and laughing with my other freshman friends when I heard chants for the first time. Now I start them a lot.

Good point on the 'you F**d up" - a bad example by me - I also generally prefer to avoid the vulgarity. It was more an example of how spontaneous the section used to be. But, it's good to hear the effort - I guess we just need more student bodies in the seats so the chants are more audible. Another good point on the band location - that's definitely contributed to the problem

 

[LordofBrewtown]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

well to be fair Football is significantly improved under Alvarez. Basketball is fine and has been since Stu Jackson or just before that. Hockey has been up and down under Alvarez, but the main gripe is the UW Hockey team has been treated like a red-headed step-child under the current AD. See his quote below in the sig.

if you call, be polite. any amount of vitriol is going to be counterproductive. I made my point to cerniglia in the voicemail: parking, concessions, canned music, banners being taken down, not allowing kids to bring in signs or "gophers on a stick" etc, blue-line club. One may think some of this is nitpicking but the crowd saturday night was estimated at around 6,000 live bodies, and after last season's lackluster attendance (for UW) it would seem one or more of the above have added up to a disaster in terms of game attendance.

don't take my emo first post too literally, if and when you send an email or make a call, think about it for a while first. The Badger Hockey team is a class act/team/organIzation and we should be too when we communicate w/UW Admin...

at least that's my .02

Firm but polite.

Regarding football though - I have to disagree that it is better under Alvarez. I was comparing his tenure as AD only. With Alvarez as coach & Richter as AD, they won 3 Rose Bowls - they have only made it to 3 on a technicality in the Alvarez AD era. Still I'll concede they are about the same in football. I'll hold to my argument - only Men's basketball is better now. Thankfully, Men's & Women's soccer & women's volleyball are finally having resurgent years. But, they have been far worse since Alvarez took over as AD (as has just about everything, from track & field, to crew, to swimming). His "on-field" record as AD has been poor compared to his predecessors.

 

[Innova]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Maybe with BA officially being on the football playoff selection committee, he will have less time to devote to ruining the hockey team.

 

[Rodhotter]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

This just in from Gary Shuchuk.
Gary Shuchuk ‏@gshuchuk 4m

The 6 NCAA Championship banners are back hanging in the rafters of the Kohl center. #BadgerHockey pic.twitter.com/bCfQ4gPkbv

 

[Gurtholfin]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

This just in from Gary Shuchuk.
Gary Shuchuk ‏@gshuchuk 4m

The 6 NCAA Championship banners are back hanging in the rafters of the Kohl center. #BadgerHockey pic.twitter.com/bCfQ4gPkbv

**** YEAH THEY ARE!


Eaves probably paid a visit to someone (and went all Leavitt on them) while Shuey stood at the closed door, not allowing anyone entrance.

To be honest, Walsh frightens me a bit too.

 

[SatNightFever]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

If Shuchuk is involved enough to send the picture, it might be reasonable to assume he PERSONALLY was ****ed about the situation - which of course none of us would blame him for.

Great news! "The squeaky wheel gets the grease"....or in this case, apparently their banners back!

 

[Badger Booster]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Considering all three coaches were part of those championships, it's no surprise the athletic department put the banners back up for the time being. I think they completely under-estimated the reaction from both people outside the department and those inside with the hockey programs.

 

[bucky15]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC

Rough day for the alumni. Burish(back) and Drewiske(shoulder) having surgeries and will miss significant time.

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVI: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Tolerate The BTHC