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Wisconsin Hockey Vol I: Dawn of the Fifth Age of UW Hockey!

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solovsfett said:
He's coaching with the red wings now. I'm guessing he'd shape the d but if they're using richter's consulting group I'm pretty sure Richter wasn't fond of Cheli's uhm ...partying

Just curios though, why do you feel Celios would be a disaster? He's an HOF NHL'er and I'm guessing name recognition would get recruits in madison
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- Would feel like a name hire designed to make a splash with little substance behind it.

- I find it hard to believe that Chelios would be interested in dropping roots here for long, so would be a stepping stone for him, potentially leaving us to look for a replacement in a few years.

- Comparatively limited experience compared to the others on many of our wish lists.

- That time he was golfing Pleasant View (early 90s) in the group ahead of us and was plastered. :D


I don't believe that any kid or family advisor or parent is going to send their kid to Wisconsin because Chelios is the coach.


He's one of my all time favorite players and I even have a Hawks #7 jersey from way back when, but I want a coach who is qualified and wants to build a legacy here. Chelios, in my mind, is neither of those things.
 
solovsfett said:
He's coaching with the red wings now. I'm guessing he'd shape the d but if they're using richter's consulting group I'm pretty sure Richter wasn't fond of Cheli's uhm ...partying

Just curios though, why do you feel Celios would be a disaster? He's an HOF NHL'er and I'm guessing name recognition would get recruits in madison
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See Shuchuk.....

Would be a disaster....
 
Gurtholfin said:
- Would feel like a name hire designed to make a splash with little substance behind it.

- I find it hard to believe that Chelios would be interested in dropping roots here for long, so would be a stepping stone for him, potentially leaving us to look for a replacement in a few years.

- Comparatively limited experience compared to the others on many of our wish lists.

- That time he was golfing Pleasant View (early 90s) in the group ahead of us and was plastered. :D


I don't believe that any kid or family advisor or parent is going to send their kid to Wisconsin because Chelios is the coach.


He's one of my all time favorite players and I even have a Hawks #7 jersey from way back when, but I want a coach who is qualified and wants to build a legacy here. Chelios, in my mind, is neither of those things.
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Got it, thank you
 
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Rumor has it Oz will be the pick. I am waiting for another person to spill the beans. IMO, Wisconsin needs to start fresh and in my opinion this is a bad move.
 
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Timothy A said:
If you look at his roster, it reads like a D1 roster in that the players are from all over the US, Canada and a guy from Sweden. I don't know how much "recruiting" actually does on in D3.
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They do a lot of recruiting. I've spent time with a number of their Assistant Coaches. I've heard them talk about places like Flin Flon Manitoba...
 
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I think Oz is a great hire if true. He's already in the Black Hawk's organization. If he takes the job, he's coming back to the college game and not to advance his pro resume. I think he stays for a long time if successful. I would also be very happy with Don, but I don't think this job is his final destination. If successful, I think he moves on and we're looking again. Maybe that would be OK if he brings us back to prominence. I can't separate the two other than on this issue, and I feel Oz could be here for the long term if he earns it.
 
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solovsfett said:
A few people mention coughlin's name but I don't get it. Has he attempted to coach d1? Can he recruit top flight talent in Canada and Minnesota?

I think Granato and oz fit those bills betters based on past and current employment, though I prefer DG to oz
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Sounds like you really know what you're talking about. It's not like Cogs has turned down D1 coaching offers in the past or has any recruiting connections in western Canada. Remember when SNC tied the Badgers (after SNC had the game winning goal disallowed) in a game that UW insisted be closed to the public?

And there is no letter U in his last name.
 
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altazo said:
Sounds like you really know what you're talking about. It's not like Cogs has turned down D1 coaching offers in the past or has any recruiting connections in western Canada. Remember when SNC tied the Badgers (after SNC had the game winning goal disallowed) in a game that UW insisted be closed to the public?

And there is no letter U in his last name.
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I know nothing about him. I prefer Granato then oz then Johnson in order. Maybe chelios. Maybe.

If TC turned down d1 offers then I'd question why. He'd have to know he'd need a larger footprint and/or success in a higher level to get wisconsin's attention. Bo Ryan spent 2-3 years at uwm after his plattevlle stint etc

I think the game vs wis was indicative of how terrible the Badgers are now. Nothing against snc but if they played a team like a Nodak they'd have gotten smoked. That's the level UW should be at and it was sad to see how far they'd fallen
 
solovsfett said:
I think the game vs wis was indicative of how terrible the Badgers are now. Nothing against snc but if they played a team like a Nodak they'd have gotten smoked. That's the level UW should be at and it was sad to see how far they'd fallen
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The '14-'15 SNC team that tied UW was one of their two squads in the last 15 years to NOT qualify for the D3 national tournament. To question Coghlin's coaching resume and then go on to say how you would be content with Chris Chelios is laughable.

At least Nodak wouldn't have been afraid to make an exhibition against SNC open to the public.

I'm not 100% sure why Coghlin has turned down D1 offers. Maybe because they were in Alaska, or maybe because he felt the administrative support wasn't in place to be successful? Who knows, that could be the same reason he'd likely turn down the UW job as well...
 
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I'm as sure as I can be with offhand conversations and secondhand information in saying he won't be coming to UW.

It's moot point, or a major shock if he's talked or applied to UW.
 
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solovsfett said:
I agree, though I wish I knew more about the baggage with oz
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My friend in the know said he was fired for wanting more resources for the hockey and complaining about it. Someone else said he wanted a practice facility specifically.

I like oz, but it's not knock my socks off.

He also stated Coughlin wouldn't come.....
 
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srkbadger said:
I would also be very happy with Don, but I don't think this job is his final destination.
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This is an excellent point. Since Oz has landed in the ranks of the NHL system, I wonder if he got a taste that he would want fulfill as a head coach someday in the NHL. I guess no one will be here forever, but I'd like to see the next guy be @ UW 6-8 years minimum.

I find the guy from Penicton, Harbinson, facinating. If he were to come he should bring is top assistant with him, that guys is in charge of recruiting - Cawley. Surely the UW job would pay as well as his current gig. The 70% winning percentage speaks volumes of their ability to evaluate and secure talent.
 
altazo said:
Sounds like you really know what you're talking about. It's not like Cogs has turned down D1 coaching offers in the past or has any recruiting connections in western Canada. Remember when SNC tied the Badgers (after SNC had the game winning goal disallowed) in a game that UW insisted be closed to the public?

And there is no letter U in his last name.
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Coghlin turned down Fairbanks because he wasn't willing to make the commitment before his work for the season was complete. Much the same way as his coach at UWSP, Mark Mazzoleni had done when he was approached about D-1 jobs. Mazzoleni end up eventually joining Minnesota as an assistant before moving on to the head coaching positions with Miami & Harvard.
 
davyd83 said:
Coghlin turned down Fairbanks because he wasn't willing to make the commitment before his work for the season was complete. Much the same way as his coach at UWSP, Mark Mazzoleni had done when he was approached about D-1 jobs. Mazzoleni end up eventually joining Minnesota as an assistant before moving on to the head coaching positions with Miami & Harvard.
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Espn's Buccigross says he's heard BA focusing on Oz or Don
 
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