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Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
That wasn't a fake/photoshopped picture I saw on twitter?
That wasn't a fake/photoshopped picture I saw on twitter?
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
Settle down Larry. Nobody is saying Kyle has been the only problem with this team. What I am saying is that in 6 of his 8 losses the guy in the other net was better. Sometimes much better. I've seen 8 All-Americans between the pipes at Wisconsin and a couple more that probably should have been. I know what they look like and Kyle has not played anywhere near that standard consistently in the first half. Just ask him and he'll tell you. As far as feeling sorry for him? He left a program that's currently a complete dumpster fire. Even overlooking this season's hi-jinks, the Saints have played one NCAA tourney game in 15 years. He chose to go to a storied program that appeared to be on the rise. Had he gone to any other top contender his inconsistent play would have just earned him a permanent seat on the bench by now. It did here but the Badger's inconsistent play has given him yet another opportunity. And he has been excellent since the break, looking much more like the guy who played the first couple of games this year. He didn't get screwed and I don't feel sorry for him. That's ridiculous.
Settle down Larry. Nobody is saying Kyle has been the only problem with this team. What I am saying is that in 6 of his 8 losses the guy in the other net was better. Sometimes much better. I've seen 8 All-Americans between the pipes at Wisconsin and a couple more that probably should have been. I know what they look like and Kyle has not played anywhere near that standard consistently in the first half. Just ask him and he'll tell you. As far as feeling sorry for him? He left a program that's currently a complete dumpster fire. Even overlooking this season's hi-jinks, the Saints have played one NCAA tourney game in 15 years. He chose to go to a storied program that appeared to be on the rise. Had he gone to any other top contender his inconsistent play would have just earned him a permanent seat on the bench by now. It did here but the Badger's inconsistent play has given him yet another opportunity. And he has been excellent since the break, looking much more like the guy who played the first couple of games this year. He didn't get screwed and I don't feel sorry for him. That's ridiculous.
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
Interesting factoid of the day:
If the Badger's fail to reach the NCAA's this year it will be only the second senior class in 50 years to never play in the tourney.
The other? Tony Granato's class of '87. Astonishing, considering the players they had, but after winning the '83 title, the Badger's missed the post season the next 4 years despite winning 21-25-27-23 games each year respectively.
Interesting factoid of the day:
If the Badger's fail to reach the NCAA's this year it will be only the second senior class in 50 years to never play in the tourney.
The other? Tony Granato's class of '87. Astonishing, considering the players they had, but after winning the '83 title, the Badger's missed the post season the next 4 years despite winning 21-25-27-23 games each year respectively.
digitalbooya
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Put my jersey on for the first time in forever. Score some **** goals!
digitalbooya
Well-known member
Goals goals goals! Yayyy!
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
Hey! It wasn't his jersey, it was my attendance with the kids tonight! PM me and I'll give you my address to send tickets/money for tickets for the rest of the home games.
On Wisconsin!
Hey! It wasn't his jersey, it was my attendance with the kids tonight! PM me and I'll give you my address to send tickets/money for tickets for the rest of the home games.
On Wisconsin!Wisko, My point here is that Hayton seems to be the fall guy here. I will agree that he didn’t look as sharp as he usually is, but I didn’t see him let in a bunch of bad goals either. Has anyone considered he also might have been totally mentally worn out from taking a whole year of classes, and an internship in 99 days during the summer ? Maybe it had no effect, but maybe it did. Players need time off to reenergize and rest. He had none of that. Most goals that I saw were choice scoring chances in the slot, usually resulting from brain dead turnovers in your own zone. Your PK is a disaster, and many of your forwards don’t play two way hockey, some not even one way hockey !!! Your best D guys would be third liners on many teams, or bench warmers in the stands on others. I can’t remember watching a team making so many huge mistakes in their own zone. The Wisconsin team I saw last year up at Appleton looked like a totally different team. Every shift was all out, and they looked very impressive. It’s one of the very few games Hayton didn’t play in. Maybe he was expecting something more like that this season, who knows ? All that’s obvious is the team this year isn’t even close to what you had last year, just like our team. You win games with great defense, and just like SLU this year, your defense is a comedy of errors. Slow, inconsistent, lazy, immature and mistake ridden. I also believe losing Don Granato has done this team enormous damage as it seems to me that your present coaches don’t make the adjustments they should be. SLU might not have made the tournament lately, but I don’t believe the mighty Badgers have done much for a while either. Also don’t forget, that we came down to Madison 0-11 and soundly beat you Saturday Night, in a game where we outplayed you, more or less in every department ! Hayton didn’t get the start, so you can’t pin that on him. So who’s living in the past here, cos I personally don’t think your programs going anywhere anytime soon !
solovsfett
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
That was a fun game to go to. A few observations...
Seamus made a great pass to space on the shorty, and on the eng he took his time and made a great shot, showed a lot of poise there.
Wags looked good put took a dumb penalty after the whistle that negated a PP.
Were the penalties tick-tacky? I don't think I saw one obvious one from the stands, but there is a lot going on when you are there in person.
The (presuming alumni) band did a great job and there were enough students there to make it fun.
The PP had some horrible looks in the 2nd period.
The Culvers @ easttowne closes as 10 now? What a pile of crap. I was denied DOUBLE custard. Not happy. I will be redeeming that today after the women's game. I will not be denied.
That was a fun game to go to. A few observations...
Seamus made a great pass to space on the shorty, and on the eng he took his time and made a great shot, showed a lot of poise there.
Wags looked good put took a dumb penalty after the whistle that negated a PP.
Were the penalties tick-tacky? I don't think I saw one obvious one from the stands, but there is a lot going on when you are there in person.
The (presuming alumni) band did a great job and there were enough students there to make it fun.
The PP had some horrible looks in the 2nd period.
The Culvers @ easttowne closes as 10 now? What a pile of crap. I was denied DOUBLE custard. Not happy. I will be redeeming that today after the women's game. I will not be denied.
sunprairie
Badger Backer
I’m not saying this team doesn’t have faults, but your view of Hayton as angelic in the first half is woefully misguided. Didn’t let in a bunch of bad goals? Bull. This is literally the first weekend that I have only been able to criticize him only once for dropping to the butterfly as soon as the puck entered the zone, and then boffing a puck over or off his shoulder into the net. It was very clear that it took just one weekend for other teams to scout that and start shooting pucks at his shoulder, and in, with regularity. I’m glad he had a good weekend, and I hope he keeps it up, but to act like he’s simply a poor unfortunate soul in this undertaking, makes you sound ridiculous. When a player comes in as a blue chipper, there are high expectations that come along, and stress or other issues off the ice are inconsequential to fans who have been promised greatness vs. mediocrity from a player whose arrival disrupted our existing goalie situation with a promise of much better goaltending. (I.e. The Jurusik and Berry tandem wasn’t perfect by any means, but they were an important part of the team’s chemistry- had bonded and supported this group to results none of us expected last year. We also can’t dismiss that unceremoniously dropping a player who was a part of that team’s success (Jurusik), and had bonded closely with many of these players in his two years in Madison, to bring in a new guy just to win, who then didn’t help us win, could have played a part in this team not gelling the way we’ve wanted them to.)
Wisko McBadgerton
Teaching you how to Bucky.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
You're tone deaf. Your point has been answered twice. For the third time, nobody has said it's all Kyle's fault. But he hasn't been part of the solution either. Going to the break he had 17 starts, in what are probably his six worst, he gave up 24 goals on 134 shots. Over those he faced just 22 shots/game, had an .821 sv% and 4.00ga/gm. You can spin it however you want but that is not All American play in net. There's plenty of blame to go around, but teams getting totally dominated typically give up a lot more than 22 shots/game while averaging 34 in those games.
The issue is we initially expected to have a building year and be a bubble team, as we had offensive depth but were weak in goal. The addition of Kyle addressed the biggest deficiency and expectations rose. Those expectations haven't been met. But what is most frustrating is that our so called "slow, inconsistent, lazy, immature (btw- our freshman are mostly actually 17- 19 yr. old freshman, they don't already have 3 kids and a mortgage like they mostly do in your league) and mistake ridden" team" is sitting 20th in PWR and is two measly wins over lousy teams from 13-14th and in an at large position. You promised us a guy that would steal games. He's stolen zero games and has been very average.
I posted at the break that I thought Hayton has had no break for the last year and that probably had worn him down. Clearly his play wasn't good in the first half or you or I or anyone else wouldn't have to try and think up reasons/excuses as to why it wasn't good. You make the point yourself.
Lastly, I have a hard time taking you seriously when you claim the Saints outplayed the Badgers in every department in their win. You had 6 goals on 13 shots. Kyle played the last 17 minutes and faced one shot. Which was a goal. Badgers were awful and still had 37 shots including 29-7 in the last 40 minutes. You won and deserved the win. Congratulations, but don't come in here and tell me how you dominated play. And I wouldn't worry yourself too much about where our program is going. Plenty to worry about in Canton. So much that even I would feel bad trolling you about it. And I don't actually have a conscience. Just remember to order your FF tickets for the next 3 years. You'll get to watch us play.
You're tone deaf. Your point has been answered twice. For the third time, nobody has said it's all Kyle's fault. But he hasn't been part of the solution either. Going to the break he had 17 starts, in what are probably his six worst, he gave up 24 goals on 134 shots. Over those he faced just 22 shots/game, had an .821 sv% and 4.00ga/gm. You can spin it however you want but that is not All American play in net. There's plenty of blame to go around, but teams getting totally dominated typically give up a lot more than 22 shots/game while averaging 34 in those games.
The issue is we initially expected to have a building year and be a bubble team, as we had offensive depth but were weak in goal. The addition of Kyle addressed the biggest deficiency and expectations rose. Those expectations haven't been met. But what is most frustrating is that our so called "slow, inconsistent, lazy, immature (btw- our freshman are mostly actually 17- 19 yr. old freshman, they don't already have 3 kids and a mortgage like they mostly do in your league) and mistake ridden" team" is sitting 20th in PWR and is two measly wins over lousy teams from 13-14th and in an at large position. You promised us a guy that would steal games. He's stolen zero games and has been very average.
I posted at the break that I thought Hayton has had no break for the last year and that probably had worn him down. Clearly his play wasn't good in the first half or you or I or anyone else wouldn't have to try and think up reasons/excuses as to why it wasn't good. You make the point yourself.
Lastly, I have a hard time taking you seriously when you claim the Saints outplayed the Badgers in every department in their win. You had 6 goals on 13 shots. Kyle played the last 17 minutes and faced one shot. Which was a goal. Badgers were awful and still had 37 shots including 29-7 in the last 40 minutes. You won and deserved the win. Congratulations, but don't come in here and tell me how you dominated play. And I wouldn't worry yourself too much about where our program is going. Plenty to worry about in Canton. So much that even I would feel bad trolling you about it. And I don't actually have a conscience. Just remember to order your FF tickets for the next 3 years. You'll get to watch us play.
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Huge weekend. I think this team is going to turn the season around this weekend. 10 games left and all 5 teams are ahead of UW in pairwise. Everything is in their hands to change the direction of this season. I think they can do it, just a feeling.
Huge weekend. I think this team is going to turn the season around this weekend. 10 games left and all 5 teams are ahead of UW in pairwise. Everything is in their hands to change the direction of this season. I think they can do it, just a feeling.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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I love the attitude, I just don't have much to hang my hat on that they will turn the corner.
I wish TG would just stick to some lines and see what happens. There were times on the forecheck on Saturday you could tell the guys on the lines didn't quite know where eachother were going be as they attacked. On the other hand, MJ hasn't touched the top 2 lines all year (except due to injury) and only sub'ed a wing on the 3rd line and ran 4 players through the 4th line. The D pairs haven't changed at all. Sure the women's game is not as competitive, but consistency helps creativity, and of course it could breed complacency as well, but has not at this time.
I love the attitude, I just don't have much to hang my hat on that they will turn the corner.
I wish TG would just stick to some lines and see what happens. There were times on the forecheck on Saturday you could tell the guys on the lines didn't quite know where eachother were going be as they attacked. On the other hand, MJ hasn't touched the top 2 lines all year (except due to injury) and only sub'ed a wing on the 3rd line and ran 4 players through the 4th line. The D pairs haven't changed at all. Sure the women's game is not as competitive, but consistency helps creativity, and of course it could breed complacency as well, but has not at this time.
MadCityRich
20 Years and Counting
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
I'm going to Chicago with a "busfull" organized by Wisconsin Hockey Backers; anybody else heading to United Center on Sunday? I'm quite interested to see the attendance and how the crowd is split.
Wouldn't this be a great time to turn it around by taking a couple from N.Dame on the road?
I'm going to Chicago with a "busfull" organized by Wisconsin Hockey Backers; anybody else heading to United Center on Sunday? I'm quite interested to see the attendance and how the crowd is split.
Wouldn't this be a great time to turn it around by taking a couple from N.Dame on the road?
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The wife and I are making a weekend out of it. Driving down on Friday and staying for 2 nights. Going to do a few days of the typical touristy stuff, go to the game, and drive back up Sunday evening.
Not sure what areas are set aside for which fan groups, but we got a decent price on seats in Section 110.
The wife and I are making a weekend out of it. Driving down on Friday and staying for 2 nights. Going to do a few days of the typical touristy stuff, go to the game, and drive back up Sunday evening.
Not sure what areas are set aside for which fan groups, but we got a decent price on seats in Section 110.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
It sure would but I'm a bit defeated at this point even after the win. They NEED to stop taking dumb penalties, crank up the PP and get great goaltending.
It sure would but I'm a bit defeated at this point even after the win. They NEED to stop taking dumb penalties, crank up the PP and get great goaltending.
WiscTJK
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
Predictions for the weekend?
I will go with loss and tie, lose shootout, 1 point out of 6. Just can't be optimistic until I see some some solid back to back games over multiple weeks....
I expect a tiny crowd at the United Center. We will see.....
Predictions for the weekend?
I will go with loss and tie, lose shootout, 1 point out of 6. Just can't be optimistic until I see some some solid back to back games over multiple weeks....
I expect a tiny crowd at the United Center. We will see.....
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
Re: Wisconsin Hockey T*M2=NCA2*7
UND sweep in regulation, otherwise I agree 100 with your every word.
UND sweep in regulation, otherwise I agree 100 with your every word.
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