UAlbany is very unlikely to add an expensive sport like hockey. They just built a new football stadium and moved their program to the best IAA league in the country. They want to spend millions more on the football facility and need to add more scholarships to make that program successful. Binghamton is a better bet, but with all the recent problems with their men's hoops program they are likely to lay low for some time. Not likely we will see another D1 program in the Empire State soon.
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Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
- Thread starter Chris_NH
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Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
Having spent (until this past season) eleven years with Penn State hockey, let me add my perspective to the annual debate of which school is ready to make the jump.
One of the big reasons that got Terry Pegula interested in funding D-1 hockey was the incredible fan base behind the Penn State Icers. The old Greenberg was regularly sold out night in and night out. Very few schools with existing ACHA teams can match the support level from fans, students and the school administration.
Ones that come to mind right away are Ohio, Illinois, Arizona, Rhode Island and Delaware. The vast majority of teams, even at the D-1 level, play in almost empty community rinks.
There's been the rumor of the Jimmy John's founder funding varsity hockey at Illinois, a group of alums looking to raise funding at Colorado State and various others dipping a toe in the water (Navy, Rhode Island). I doubt that any will happen in the near future. In my humble opinion, Illinois might be the best bet, with Navy a possibility for Atlantic Hockey with UConn soon to be heading East.
Having spent (until this past season) eleven years with Penn State hockey, let me add my perspective to the annual debate of which school is ready to make the jump.
One of the big reasons that got Terry Pegula interested in funding D-1 hockey was the incredible fan base behind the Penn State Icers. The old Greenberg was regularly sold out night in and night out. Very few schools with existing ACHA teams can match the support level from fans, students and the school administration.
Ones that come to mind right away are Ohio, Illinois, Arizona, Rhode Island and Delaware. The vast majority of teams, even at the D-1 level, play in almost empty community rinks.
There's been the rumor of the Jimmy John's founder funding varsity hockey at Illinois, a group of alums looking to raise funding at Colorado State and various others dipping a toe in the water (Navy, Rhode Island). I doubt that any will happen in the near future. In my humble opinion, Illinois might be the best bet, with Navy a possibility for Atlantic Hockey with UConn soon to be heading East.
MGoBlueHockey
Wolverine Devotee
Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
Maybe if Rutgers gets a team Michigan can manage to get to .500 against them in their first year.
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Maybe if Rutgers gets a team Michigan can manage to get to .500 against them in their first year.
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Hockey Monk
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Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
Red Cows,
I hope you do not mind but I posted your post from here on the Scout Nebraska board:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=204&f=4511&t=12761573
Also, as much as I want Nebraska to make the jump the rumors on the PBA are the sightlines are really bad for hockey as it is a basketball specific design. At the same time it holds 12k+ for hockey so maybe if you block off or tarp 3k of the really bad seats you could still have 9k for hockey.
What are your thoughts of the PBA as you could see the ice floor goes deep into one side:
http://www.1011now.com/localsports/...-Arenas-Ice-Floor-Passes-Tests-213216951.html
Also, here is another look at where the ice floor sits during construction....seems like lots of seats need to be folded back:
http://journalstar.com/news/local/a...cle_a01060ab-f65e-51aa-9e19-f25b13b56a85.html
Red Cows,
I hope you do not mind but I posted your post from here on the Scout Nebraska board:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=204&f=4511&t=12761573
Also, as much as I want Nebraska to make the jump the rumors on the PBA are the sightlines are really bad for hockey as it is a basketball specific design. At the same time it holds 12k+ for hockey so maybe if you block off or tarp 3k of the really bad seats you could still have 9k for hockey.
What are your thoughts of the PBA as you could see the ice floor goes deep into one side:
http://www.1011now.com/localsports/...-Arenas-Ice-Floor-Passes-Tests-213216951.html
Also, here is another look at where the ice floor sits during construction....seems like lots of seats need to be folded back:
http://journalstar.com/news/local/a...cle_a01060ab-f65e-51aa-9e19-f25b13b56a85.html
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Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
I haven't been in Pinnacle Bank Center as yet. I do have a standing invite from a customer of mine there that is a suite holder to take in an event there, though. I need to take him up on this. I will say this, though; having a new facility with bad sight lines is better than having no facility at all.
Given the Nebraska lemmings that exist around here, I think Husker D-1 hockey would fill that building on an almost nightly basis. NU fans are a species of some of the biggest bandwaggoners I have ever seen.
Something that I have mentioned elsewhere, too---I firmly believe that Husker hockey would come at the expense of the Lincoln Stars. I don't think there are enough hockey dollars for both and, unlike the Lancers situation in Omaha where they were a long established big, big winner in a much bigger city, I think Stars fans would abandon them in droves for a Husker program. There are some UNO "fans" that would probably do this as well. I'd certainly follow both since they would be in different conferences but my loyalty would be to UNO, obviously.
Red Cows,
I hope you do not mind but I posted your post from here on the Scout Nebraska board:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=204&f=4511&t=12761573
Also, as much as I want Nebraska to make the jump the rumors on the PBA are the sightlines are really bad for hockey as it is a basketball specific design. At the same time it holds 12k+ for hockey so maybe if you block off or tarp 3k of the really bad seats you could still have 9k for hockey.
What are your thoughts of the PBA as you could see the ice floor goes deep into one side:
http://www.1011now.com/localsports/...-Arenas-Ice-Floor-Passes-Tests-213216951.html
Also, here is another look at where the ice floor sits during construction....seems like lots of seats need to be folded back:
http://journalstar.com/news/local/a...cle_a01060ab-f65e-51aa-9e19-f25b13b56a85.html
I haven't been in Pinnacle Bank Center as yet. I do have a standing invite from a customer of mine there that is a suite holder to take in an event there, though. I need to take him up on this. I will say this, though; having a new facility with bad sight lines is better than having no facility at all.
Given the Nebraska lemmings that exist around here, I think Husker D-1 hockey would fill that building on an almost nightly basis. NU fans are a species of some of the biggest bandwaggoners I have ever seen.
Something that I have mentioned elsewhere, too---I firmly believe that Husker hockey would come at the expense of the Lincoln Stars. I don't think there are enough hockey dollars for both and, unlike the Lancers situation in Omaha where they were a long established big, big winner in a much bigger city, I think Stars fans would abandon them in droves for a Husker program. There are some UNO "fans" that would probably do this as well. I'd certainly follow both since they would be in different conferences but my loyalty would be to UNO, obviously.
Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
True enough.
The Huskers ACHA team doesn't even play in Lincoln, but will once the Breslow Center is built there.
They play at Sidner ice arena in Fremont, NE, which is a YMCA facility (and seats 350 or so and is an hour away from Lincoln) and always have.
The vast majority of teams, even at the D-1 level, play in almost empty community rinks.
True enough.
The Huskers ACHA team doesn't even play in Lincoln, but will once the Breslow Center is built there.
They play at Sidner ice arena in Fremont, NE, which is a YMCA facility (and seats 350 or so and is an hour away from Lincoln) and always have.
That's interesting. As a Maryland alum (grad school), they at least seemed to imply to us that moving to the B1G was indeed money related but that it would allow them to repair and expand the athletic department. I don't doubt your story but we were at least given the indication that the B1G move was a big payday.
It is a payday for them and I'm sure it will help them repair the athletic department. But I'd have to imagine they would add the sports they dropped before any brand new ones. Plus they will need to upgrade football to be competitive. I just see any possibility of hockey as pretty far down the list.
EasternBadger
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Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...g-ten-school-lawmakers-say/sun-03232014-324pm
Southern Illinois, playing in the B1G. Can't believe the answer was so obvious this whole time.
http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...g-ten-school-lawmakers-say/sun-03232014-324pm
Southern Illinois, playing in the B1G. Can't believe the answer was so obvious this whole time.
Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
I had no idea that Illinois had also legalized pot, or, in this case, mushrooms.
http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...g-ten-school-lawmakers-say/sun-03232014-324pm
Southern Illinois, playing in the B1G. Can't believe the answer was so obvious this whole time.
I had no idea that Illinois had also legalized pot, or, in this case, mushrooms.
Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
Why would you want Rutgers to start yet another program that they can suck at? I guess maybe if you're in the Big 10 hockey league and you want assurances that you'll always have a team you can beat you might be for it. Otherwise i can think of no reason.
Why would you want Rutgers to start yet another program that they can suck at? I guess maybe if you're in the Big 10 hockey league and you want assurances that you'll always have a team you can beat you might be for it. Otherwise i can think of no reason.
Spartanforlife4
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Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
Steps to make this happen:
1. Southern Illinois secedes from the North to become it's own state.
2. Southern Illinois annexes St. Louis.
3. With the new media market, the Big Ten will bring in SIU for BTN money.
4. This doesn't really solve anything, because North Illinois will still only be left with one Big Ten school.
5. South Illinois begins war to take Urbana-Champaign from North Illinois.
6. Civil War continues north into Chicago where the city is decimated, destroying Big Ten offices and BTN studios.
7. Big Ten folds, CCHA and WCHA return.
http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...g-ten-school-lawmakers-say/sun-03232014-324pm
Southern Illinois, playing in the B1G. Can't believe the answer was so obvious this whole time.
Steps to make this happen:
1. Southern Illinois secedes from the North to become it's own state.
2. Southern Illinois annexes St. Louis.
3. With the new media market, the Big Ten will bring in SIU for BTN money.
4. This doesn't really solve anything, because North Illinois will still only be left with one Big Ten school.
5. South Illinois begins war to take Urbana-Champaign from North Illinois.
6. Civil War continues north into Chicago where the city is decimated, destroying Big Ten offices and BTN studios.
7. Big Ten folds, CCHA and WCHA return.
FireKnight
Let's go Tech!
Re: Will Rutgers and/or Pitt ever do hockey?
Sounds like the Salukis need to consider Putin as President or AD.
Steps to make this happen:
1. Southern Illinois secedes from the North to become it's own state.
2. Southern Illinois annexes St. Louis.
3. With the new media market, the Big Ten will bring in SIU for BTN money.
4. This doesn't really solve anything, because North Illinois will still only be left with one Big Ten school.
5. South Illinois begins war to take Urbana-Champaign from North Illinois.
6. Civil War continues north into Chicago where the city is decimated, destroying Big Ten offices and BTN studios.
7. Big Ten folds, CCHA and WCHA return.
Sounds like the Salukis need to consider Putin as President or AD.