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WIAC adds Northland

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Thought they wanted a WIAC exclusive conference...you know...to cur down on travel costs and the such

Northland ≠ Adrian, perhaps???

Not an entirely new thing for the WIAC. Findandia used to be a men's soccer member. And, Lawrence was a member for wrestling.
 
Northland ≠ Adrian, perhaps???

Not an entirely new thing for the WIAC. Findandia used to be a men's soccer member. And, Lawrence was a member for wrestling.

Guessing Lawrence and Finladia werent handing the WIAC schoOls their peters every year either like SNC did in hockey.
 
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Thought they wanted a WIAC exclusive conference...you know...to cur down on travel costs and the such

I never bought the 'travel cost' reason....they ship their FB and BB teams all over the country to play select games during the regular season...
 
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OK, either I am confused, or UWEC is

The WIAC release says the Northland joining is for 2019-20, right?
The Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (WIAC) announced today that Northland College will be joining the WIAC as an affiliate member in the sports of men’s and women’s ice hockey effective with the 2019-20 academic year.

But the UWEC schedule for next year indicates the Northland game is a conference game:
TUE 30 at Northland *
* Conference
 
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I know that both Finlandia and Nortland had met with the WIAC representatives a month or two back. I suspect Finlandia was voted down but, also possible they never formally applied. I also know that Scholastica and even SNC have been contacted about joining. Heard today that Scholastica is most likely not interested as they like where both the men's and women's teams are at in the NCHA. Haven't heard anything regarding SNC's interest (or, most likely lack thereof).
 
I know that both Finlandia and Nortland had met with the WIAC representatives a month or two back. I suspect Finlandia was voted down but, also possible they never formally applied. I also know that Scholastica and even SNC have been contacted about joining. Heard today that Scholastica is most likely not interested as they like where both the men's and women's teams are at in the NCHA. Haven't heard anything regarding SNC's interest (or, most likely lack thereof).

I would be willing to bet St. Norbert being contacted or even being interested is someone's pipe dream.
 
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Haven't heard anything regarding SNC's interest (or, most likely lack thereof).

Besides the whole "you took your puck and left us" sentiment from the last time, not sure SNC has lots to gain by a move. SOS may be higher but don't think it has a been a big obstacle.
 
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If Finlandia were to follow Northland to the WIAC that would really leave CSS in no-man’s-land as far as the NCHA is concerned. Perhaps CSS will move to the MIAC as an affiliate member for hockey or even as a full fledged all-sport member?
 
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The WIAC can take Finlandia and Northland, but I'm not ready to give up CSS. That being said, CSS fits much more naturally in the MIAC.
 
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The WIAC can take Finlandia and Northland, but I'm not ready to give up CSS. That being said, CSS fits much more naturally in the MIAC.

So, there's potential for 3 teams to leave the NCHA. Have there been any mentions of new schools adding hockey in the midwest in addition to Aurora and Trine?
 
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So, there's potential for 3 teams to leave the NCHA. Have there been any mentions of new schools adding hockey in the midwest in addition to Aurora and Trine?

It would be nice if the NCHA dropped back down to 10 teams. I liked the old double round robin schedule.
 
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It would be nice if the NCHA dropped back down to 10 teams. I liked the old double round robin schedule.

If Finlandia departs and Trine can grab some quality recruits, this conference could potentially get 3 NCAA bids every year. I'm sure some Easterners aren't going to be too fond of that.
 
Funny when the WIAC pulled the chute on NCHA it was travel, allegedly. One of the primary drivers of that separation has since been fired. The reality is they couldn’t beat SNC or CSS at a consistent clip. The real excuse according to the coaches driving it was that the state schools couldn’t compete with recruiting by the privates, even though tuition is half the price. Now they are accepting privates that have the same position. They know they are not accepting power programs and they are looking for AQ. It is what it appears to be. Has Northland really taken a step in respectably, 6-10-2 in conference play? FU is not going anywhere. Give their new, old coach a few years. He will get them back on the map. WIAC has one team and they have been strong the last 5 years. But their builder is now at MTU. Hopefully they will continue but this conference is not what is was since it changed to WIAC. Be careful what you wish for. WIAC got theirs. River, Stout, Superior...way down since split. UWEC solid, UWSP strong. CSS has been a good program in NCHA. Now with coaching change and loss of strong coaching leadership, they may look into MIAC. But MIAC has to be interested in them too.
 
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Funny when the WIAC pulled the chute on NCHA it was travel, allegedly. One of the primary drivers of that separation has since been fired. The reality is they couldn’t beat SNC or CSS at a consistent clip. The real excuse according to the coaches driving it was that the state schools couldn’t compete with recruiting by the privates, even though tuition is half the price. Now they are accepting privates that have the same position. They know they are not accepting power programs and they are looking for AQ. It is what it appears to be. Has Northland really taken a step in respectably, 6-10-2 in conference play? FU is not going anywhere. Give their new, old coach a few years. He will get them back on the map. WIAC has one team and they have been strong the last 5 years. But their builder is now at MTU. Hopefully they will continue but this conference is not what is was since it changed to WIAC. Be careful what you wish for. WIAC got theirs. River, Stout, Superior...way down since split. UWEC solid, UWSP strong. CSS has been a good program in NCHA. Now with coaching change and loss of strong coaching leadership, they may look into MIAC. But MIAC has to be interested in them too.

Your point about Stout and Superior being down since the split is borne out in their collective win totals in the last five seasons (since the split) versus the five previous seasons when they were in the NCHA.... combined wins have dropped to 91 from 132, a 31% reduction. Stout experienced the biggest win reduction from 67 to 45, while Superior dropped from 67 to 46......River did increase their total by 5....69 to 74...
What changed? Decline in the quality of recruits? Schedule change....the WIAC has only played an eight game conference schedule in recent seasons...rest are non conference games vs MIAC/NCHA schools.
 
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