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Whitetail deer hunting - 2009

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theprofromdover said:
The idea is to have a day when those who don't hunt have a chance to be in the woods safely.
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Right, this makes sense. However, we only hunt on our property of about 400 acres or so - people aren't allowed on it to begin with. Don't ask me how this family has so much land, I am just a temporary tenant!
 
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theprofromdover said:
The idea is to have a day when those who don't hunt have a chance to be in the woods safely.
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While this makes some sense, a better approach would be to adopt changes such that both hunters and non-hunters are safe in the woods EVERY day. If you're not sure that your "target" is a deer that you want to harvest, then don't shoot at it. If you do shoot, make sure that nothing/no one beyond the intended target is in danger. This isn't combat where one expects some collateral damage.
 
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ARM said:
While this makes some sense, a better approach would be to adopt changes such that both hunters and non-hunters are safe in the woods EVERY day. If you're not sure that your "target" is a deer that you want to harvest, then don't shoot at it. If you do shoot, make sure that nothing/no one beyond the intended target is in danger. This isn't combat where one expects some collateral damage.
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Only in a perfect world. Although they are generally in the minority in most walks of life... there are idiots everywhere.

You might as well have said...
While this makes some sense, a better approach would be to adopt changes such that both drivers and pedestrians are safe in the streets EVERY day. If you are not sure that you can keep from driving or walking while texting or drinking, then stay off the street. If you do drive under these conditions, make sure that nothing, no other cars or pedestrians, are anywhere near the road you are traveling on. Likewise, if you are a pedestrian with your head up your azz, stay the hell away from the road. This isn't a demolition derby where one expects some collateral damage.
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ARM said:
While this makes some sense, a better approach would be to adopt changes such that both hunters and non-hunters are safe in the woods EVERY day. If you're not sure that your "target" is a deer that you want to harvest, then don't shoot at it. If you do shoot, make sure that nothing/no one beyond the intended target is in danger. This isn't combat where one expects some collateral damage.
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Yeah, right. And require breathalyzers on all hunters as well as eye and IQ tests.
 
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theprofromdover said:
And require breathalyzers on all hunters as well as eye and IQ tests.
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This might not be the most outlandish idea ever (not the alcohol tests part, although I would think that it is illegal in most states to hunt while intoxicated.) In order to drive, one has to demonstrate a certain proficiency both in a written exam and behind the wheel. The driver must also pass a simple vision screening. Requiring hunters who don't have a drivers license to pass a similar vision test wouldn't be that expensive, and there are already gun safety classes for young hunters. Obviously, such tests don't make it impossible for someone to take a gun into the woods and hunt anyway w/o passing such checks, but then neither does closing hunting on certain days. Laws typically only stop the law-abiding citizens.
 
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ARM said:
Obviously, such tests don't make it impossible for someone to take a gun into the woods and hunt anyway w/o passing such checks, but then neither does closing hunting on certain days.
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If I get shot while riding my horse Monday-Saturday it will probably be an accident.

If I get shot on a Sunday it's a felony.
 
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theprofromdover said:
If I get shot on a Sunday it's a felony.
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And if your wounds are fatal, that's not going to bring you and yours a lot of consolation. I just think that you should be able to ride your horse Monday thru Saturday without fear of being shot. A man on a horse and a whitetail deer don't look that much alike. And if there are limiting factors like fog, or darkness, or bushes in the way, then that's not a safe shot and no shot should be fired. Every hunter should take that seriously.
 
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theprofromdover said:
If I get shot while riding my horse Monday-Saturday it will probably be an accident.

If I get shot on a Sunday it's a felony.
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Very few are classified as accidents anymore...most "accidents" have charges brought against them anyway.
 
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walrus said:
Here's a story that hits close to home, why, I have deer all around my property.

http://www.yankeemagazine.com/issues/2008-01/interact/10things/karenwood
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i remember this well... we talked about it in my hunter safety course...

about a year later my father was almost shot by some ******* who was in a group that touched off a couple of rounds trying to jump something... a round hit the tree about 30 feet above my father's stand... he hasn't been back n the woods since...
 
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gscott13 said:
about a year later my father was almost shot by some ******* who was in a group that touched off a couple of rounds trying to jump something... a round hit the tree about 30 feet above my father's stand... he hasn't been back n the woods since...
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This is why deer drives should never be attempted by triggerhappy idiots. "Oh yeah, I'm just gonna randomly touch one off and try to scare them out of that swamp/thicket/whatever." :rolleyes:

Honestly, my family has never seen it necessary to try and push deer out of hiding - go scouting early, find a place to put a blind or a treestand, and put your time in. If you did your homework, you should see something. Over a period of years, you can adjust a blind's location relative to deer patterns and habits until it produces deer a majority of the time (though I realize this is a lot easier when you hunt on private land).
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
This is why deer drives should never be attempted by triggerhappy idiots. "Oh yeah, I'm just gonna randomly touch one off and try to scare them out of that swamp/thicket/whatever." :rolleyes:
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exactly...

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
and put your time in.
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or as my father called it, "getting away from your (my) mother" :D :p
 
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Got my buck late this afternoon. I was on stand, on a drive, once the drivers went past me, and I was out of the drive I walked back to the trucks, so I could go pick up the other guys, so they didn't have to walk so dam far. I get to the trucks, unload and case my gun, as I'm about to open the door of the truck I see a nice buck running across the corn field, so I hurry up and pull my gun out of the case. I only had enough time to get one shell in, pulled up and plugged him just as he was about to jump a line fence. Overall, I was mostly just lucky. :p The rack wasn't real impressive, it was a 9 point, because it had an extra brow tine on one side, but the body was HUGE, he weighed just over 200 lbs fully dressed out.

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Buck season doesn't start in PA until Monday. Most of the schools have that first day off (making a very long Thanksgiving weekend).

The three days before Thanksgiving are bear season.
 
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Was able to get in the woods today for my 1 day this season, ended up getting a 7 point tonight on afternoon watch, my first buck of my life. Roughly 110 pounds, probably 2 1/2 years old or so. I'll have pictures up later this week hopefully. Same thing happened last year (same stand, actually), except it was a 95lb doe instead.
 
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If not for booze, this deer season would've been a total waste.:mad:

Muzzleloader season for the next seven days. Hopefully a turn in the weather will get the effers moving.
 
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Plante26 said:
If not for booze, this deer season would've been a total waste.:mad:

Muzzleloader season for the next seven days. Hopefully a turn in the weather will get the effers moving.
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It has been real tough going over to the east too so far from what I've heard. Only this past weekend did anybody start seeing a lot of deer.
 
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