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What the Fark 4: It's not unusual to be strange anymore

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Except she's real, not created.

5/13 is the 100th Anniversary of the 1st Apparition at Fatima.
(off to the religion thread!)

The person was real. The persona was created.

OK, so I have always been confused about "Fatima." There are multiple Fatimas (Fatimae?) right? On the one hand I hear the word mentioned in connection with the "black Madonnas" of the Gothic age (which I also don't understand, but anyway), but on the other hand there's a Fatimid Caliphate in Muslim history (although I don't remember where it is -- North Africa maybe? You could play as them in a Civ 3 DLC).

So what's the deal? Are they related -- do they relate to a place? Are they totally unrelated and it's just a coincidence?

Edit: OK, I used the google machine.

Fatima was Mohammed's daughter so it's a common Muslim name (and the dynasty traced their lineage from that daughter). One particularly cute Fatima got herself kidnapped by a proto-Trumpian Christian in the 16th century and was then, depending on your source, either Stockholm Syndromed -- Christian sources, or raped -- Muslim sources and in all honesty a lot more likely, given how the victorious Christian Spanish defined "the spoils" of the Reconquista. "Plus Ultra," baby.

There's a town in Portugal named after the unfortunate sex slave. In 1917, three school kids with a lot of free time and even more imagination had visions of Mary in the town, and Rome marketed the sh-t out of them, so now Mary has "Fatima" tacked on to her styling, which given Mary's spotty sexual history was maybe just a bit too on the nose even for the Holy See.

I see no connection with the black Madonnas so evidently I conflated that, but I did learn that it's the medieval Poles who served Mary "black, like my men."
 
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The person was real. The persona was created.

OK, so I have always been confused about "Fatima." There are multiple Fatimas (Fatimae?) right? On the one hand I hear the word mentioned in connection with the "black Madonnas" of the Gothic age (which I also don't understand, but anyway), but on the other hand there's a Fatimid Caliphate in Muslim history (although I don't remember where it is -- North Africa maybe? You could play as them in a Civ 3 DLC).

So what's the deal? Are they related -- do they relate to a place? Are they totally unrelated and it's just a coincidence?

Edit: OK, I used the google machine.

Fatima was Mohammed's daughter so it's a common Muslim name (and the dynasty traced their lineage from that daughter). One particularly cute Fatima got herself kidnapped by a proto-Trumpian Christian in the 16th century and was then, depending on your source, either Stockholm Syndromed -- Christian sources, or raped -- Muslim sources and in all honesty a lot more likely, given how the victorious Christian Spanish defined "the spoils" of the Reconquista. "Plus Ultra," baby.

There's a town in Portugal named after the unfortunate sex slave. In 1917, three school kids with a lot of free time and even more imagination had visions of Mary in the town, and Rome marketed the sh-t out of them, so now Mary has "Fatima" tacked on to her styling, which given Mary's spotty sexual history was maybe just a bit too on the nose even for the Holy See.

I see no connection with the black Madonnas so evidently I conflated that, but I did learn that it's the medieval Poles who served Mary "black, like my men."

The Miracle of Fatima. 10/13/1917.

We should continue this in the religion thread.
 
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There's a town in Portugal named after the unfortunate sex slave. In 1917, three school kids with a lot of free time and even more imagination had visions of Mary in the town...
Shrooms. They had a vision quest, as the Native Americans would say.
 
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The Miracle of Fatima. 10/13/1917.

We should continue this in the religion thread.

Yup, I got it on the re/search.

Religion is so much more interesting without the hocus pocus. And one would think that if miracles are possible, maybe a little less of the appearing to kids on break and a little more of say stopping the Holocaust.
 
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Shrooms. They had a vision quest, as the Native Americans would say.

Hungry people see sh-t, too. Jesus went into the desert and starved himself and met the devil. If I go an hour past lunchtime I start seeing Cornell forwards who can stickhandle.
 
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If there's a female character that's ever been created, and kids who saw that character in a game/show/etc. that they really enjoyed and have since grown into men, there's guaranteed to be some porn based upon her.

Poor Erin Esurance. Drowned in a veritable tsunami of lewd fanart.
 
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Poor Erin Esurance. Drowned in a veritable tsunami of lewd fanart.

I'd never even knew that character had a name, and completely forgot about it. I did a Google search for the name, and the images are less official and more said fanart. Wow.
 
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