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What the Fark 2: That Was... Interesting.

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bigblue_dl said:
I don't think there is a problem with owning a purebred, as long as you don't support breeders that are so irresponsible as you describe. We have a purebred lab, and we got him from a family that had a litter of puppies. They used his parents for hunting, and as pets, and wanted puppies. Its the whole puppymill thing that should not be supported.
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This is like saying, "but MY drug dealer is really an upstanding college student who loves his mother and is just doing it to make a little money on the side - so I'm not supporting the Cartels."

One of our 3 rescues is a "purebred" (who knows?) long-haired chihuahua from a puppy mill. He spent the first 10 months of his life in a cage. When he came home with us, he was scared of grass. And wind. He'd pretty clearly never been outside before. He would completely freeze and bark so hard he'd make himself sick if a stranger came within 50 yards of him. Two years later, we still can't really take him out into the general public, but we can go for walks and pass people on the sidewalk without fearing for his safety.

No matter how "good" a breeder is, the demand for purebred dogs is what creates the market conditions that the unscrupulous ones exploit. It's a market that I want no part of, and I wish that others would knock it off, too. I'll just never understand why (for example) some people seem to find it more satisfying to train a purebred border collie to herd sheep than it would be to train a "mutt" to do the same darn thing.
 
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LynahFan said:
No matter how "good" a breeder is, the demand for purebred dogs is what creates the market conditions that the unscrupulous ones exploit. It's a market that I want no part of, and I wish that others would knock it off, too. I'll just never understand why (for example) some people seem to find it more satisfying to train a purebred border collie to herd sheep than it would be to train a "mutt" to do the same darn thing.
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It's not a matter of being more satisfying or less satisfying when it comes to shepherding dogs, it's a matter of these dogs have that desire bred into them and therefore it's easier. Each one of my SIL's dogs, with no training, could all shepherd a flock to varying degrees of success. Once they received training, it was only the little things they had to control, like keeping the one dog from getting over excited and ending up with a tuft of wool in his mouth after trying to motivate a wayward sheep.

Certain dogs were bred for a particular function and I can see why people want those purebred lines if they happen to also do those same activities. Other dogs were bred for a certain look, which confuses me to no end. I grew up with mutts, and that probably caused me to look at them and think of their appearances as more interesting than the purebred Golden Retriever or whatever else because there was a bit of guessing as to what their lineages were. Yet other dogs are bred for a certain type of temperament - family friendly and such, which I think most mutts can do just fine.
 
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LynahFan said:
This is like saying, "but MY drug dealer is really an upstanding college student who loves his mother and is just doing it to make a little money on the side - so I'm not supporting the Cartels."

One of our 3 rescues is a "purebred" (who knows?) long-haired chihuahua from a puppy mill. He spent the first 10 months of his life in a cage. When he came home with us, he was scared of grass. And wind. He'd pretty clearly never been outside before. He would completely freeze and bark so hard he'd make himself sick if a stranger came within 50 yards of him. Two years later, we still can't really take him out into the general public, but we can go for walks and pass people on the sidewalk without fearing for his safety.

No matter how "good" a breeder is, the demand for purebred dogs is what creates the market conditions that the unscrupulous ones exploit. It's a market that I want no part of, and I wish that others would knock it off, too. I'll just never understand why (for example) some people seem to find it more satisfying to train a purebred border collie to herd sheep than it would be to train a "mutt" to do the same darn thing.
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....except you're comparing puppies to drugs. Terrible comparison.
 
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LynahFan said:
. I'll just never understand why (for example) some people seem to find it more satisfying to train a purebred border collie to herd sheep than it would be to train a "mutt" to do the same darn thing.
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A border collie will herd anything right out of the box, you might have to train it to do what you want to do with the herd but its already trained(bred) to herd. Mutts aren't programmed that way.

I'll take a Golden Retriever from a real breeder for my dog. Have had many of them and its what I choose to have. But really I like most any dog better than I like people.
 
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walrus said:
A border collie will herd anything right out of the box, you might have to train it to do what you want to do with the herd but its already trained(bred) to herd. Mutts aren't programmed that way.
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Sooo....laziness. ;)
 
walrus said:
A border collie will herd anything right out of the box, you might have to train it to do what you want to do with the herd but its already trained(bred) to herd. Mutts aren't programmed that way.

I'll take a Golden Retriever from a real breeder for my dog. Have had many of them and its what I choose to have. But really I like most any dog better than I like people.
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My son has a border collie and a 4 month old. I want to see what happens when the grandson starts toddling and border collie thinks he's a sheep.
 
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Kepler said:
They were unconcerned after they learned what "blacks' beach" really was...
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To be fair, the nudists were doing crazy things like "walking around", not to mention "holding hands". Also, you don't seem to hear any of the scouts complaining.
 
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The nature hike turned into an au naturel hike. Hmm...

Put it this way, lady, your kid seeing women that look the way women are at a nudist beach is much better, realistic than setting the false, first examples of what they're <strike>likely</strike> going to see on the internet (formerly known as dad's Playboys).
 
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St. Clown said:
The nature hike turned into an au naturel hike. Hmm...

Put it this way, lady, your kid seeing women that look the way women are at a nudist beach is much better, realistic than setting the false, first examples of what they're <strike>likely</strike> going to see on the internet (formerly known as dad's Playboys).
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The other thing is, if you've ever been to a nudist colony you know the reaction to virtually everybody you meet is PLEASE PUT YOUR CLOTHES BACK ON! NOW!

What has been seen cannot be unseen. Those snowflakes are warped for life; just not how their parents think.
 
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<a href="http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/woman-with-kangaroo-asked-to-leave-beaver-dam-mcdonalds-b99438462z1-290678561.html">Woman asked to leave McDonald's after someone complains about her emotional support baby kangaroo</a>.

I've heard of service animals for emotional support before... but a baby kangaroo? What needs, specifically, does a baby kangaroo fulfill that a dog can't? And what does she do with it when it gets older? I'm trying to be sensitive to mental health issues, but I really don't understand how bringing a kangaroo to McDonald's provides a benefit. Obviously I am not quite enlightened enough. :p
 
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jen said:
<a href="http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/woman-with-kangaroo-asked-to-leave-beaver-dam-mcdonalds-b99438462z1-290678561.html">Woman asked to leave McDonald's after someone complains about her emotional support baby kangaroo</a>.

I've heard of service animals for emotional support before... but a baby kangaroo? What needs, specifically, does a baby kangaroo fulfill that a dog can't? And what does she do with it when it gets older? I'm trying to be sensitive to mental health issues, but I really don't understand how bringing a kangaroo to McDonald's provides a benefit. Obviously I am not quite enlightened enough. :p
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Emotional support animals are not service animals. The latter must be accommodated by places of public accommodation under the ADA, the former do not.

The distinction basically boils down to a single question: does the animal perform an actual task? Some may be less obvious than others, there are dogs that will alert for seizures or remind people to take their meds, for instance.
 
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unofan said:
Emotional support animals are not service animals. The latter must be accommodated by places of public accommodation under the ADA, the former do not.

The distinction basically boils down to a single question: does the animal perform an actual task? Some may be less obvious than others, there are dogs that will alert for seizures or remind people to take their meds, for instance.
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I actually JUST read this on the ADA website!

All those people that complain their emotional support pig/kangaroo/velociraptor should be allowed everywhere are incorrect.

And if your emotional support pigs ****s everywhere, it wouldn't be registered as a service animal.

I wonder what kind of list I'll end up on for Googling "emotional support kangaroo" at work. I hope they have a top 10 dumbest Google search terms or something. :D

I still want to know what's up with the baby kangaroo, though.

edit: I would think having an unusual animal, pet-wise, for emotional support would lead to MORE stress, not less, when you take it everywhere in public. Maybe it's for people who need constant attention? Should we call them attention whore kangaroos instead?
 
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No matter what an emotional support pig does, it can't be as bad as a screaming baby.
 
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