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What is wrong with Princeton?

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I'm a BC fan who lives in NY City and sometimes catches a Princeton game. Congrats to the Kitties for their weekend sweep at Bemidji!
 
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Princeton season ticketholder here…some of the points made so far were accurate in years past. Gadowsky was a strong coach and recruited players to fit his style of play. I don’t blame him at all for leaving- getting to build a program from the ground up at Penn State is an opportunity he couldn’t pass up. His replacement never got the same level of performance out of the players Gadowsky had brought in. Fogarty took over a cupboard that was pretty bare in terms of talent, and the improvement in play has been noticeable this year, even if the results haven’t shown it. It certainly helps having a veteran goalie like Phinney, whose career stats reflect the struggles of the team more than they do his shortcomings…he’s as good of a goalie as Princeton has had in the last decade.

The administrative support has been an issue in years past, particularly with the previous longtime AD who was a basketball player at Princeton, so hockey was not as high on his priority list. That is changing- the current AD is a former captain of the Princeton women's hockey team, and the current university president has been known to take in a game at Baker Rink from time to time. Fogarty has done well to build community relations and support within local youth hockey teams, such as having a different young local hockey player skate with the team before each game as an honorary captain. Even a small gesture like that was lacking in recent years.

The one area will Princeton continues to fall short is in local fan support, and I’m not sure how much that can change,even with an improved product. Your average hockey fan around here would rather go see one of the three NHL teams that are within an hour car/train ride of Princeton. Let’s use Cornell as an example- Lynah Rink is the place to be on a Friday/Saturday night in Ithaca, but when you’re so close to NYC and Philly, fair-weather hockey “fans” around Princeton are going to find something else to do.

As was said earlier, give the Tigers a couple years. Things are looking up this year for the first time in awhile, and hopefully this weekend’s results can jump start their season!
 
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makehobeyproud said:
Princeton season ticketholder here…some of the points made so far were accurate in years past. Gadowsky was a strong coach and recruited players to fit his style of play. I don’t blame him at all for leaving- getting to build a program from the ground up at Penn State is an opportunity he couldn’t pass up. His replacement never got the same level of performance out of the players Gadowsky had brought in. Fogarty took over a cupboard that was pretty bare in terms of talent, and the improvement in play has been noticeable this year, even if the results haven’t shown it. It certainly helps having a veteran goalie like Phinney, whose career stats reflect the struggles of the team more than they do his shortcomings…he’s as good of a goalie as Princeton has had in the last decade.

The administrative support has been an issue in years past, particularly with the previous longtime AD who was a basketball player at Princeton, so hockey was not as high on his priority list. That is changing- the current AD is a former captain of the Princeton women's hockey team, and the current university president has been known to take in a game at Baker Rink from time to time. Fogarty has done well to build community relations and support within local youth hockey teams, such as having a different young local hockey player skate with the team before each game as an honorary captain. Even a small gesture like that was lacking in recent years.

The one area will Princeton continues to fall short is in local fan support, and I’m not sure how much that can change,even with an improved product. Your average hockey fan around here would rather go see one of the three NHL teams that are within an hour car/train ride of Princeton. Let’s use Cornell as an example- Lynah Rink is the place to be on a Friday/Saturday night in Ithaca, but when you’re so close to NYC and Philly, fair-weather hockey “fans” around Princeton are going to find something else to do.

As was said earlier, give the Tigers a couple years. Things are looking up this year for the first time in awhile, and hopefully this weekend’s results can jump start their season!
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makehobeyproud said:
Princeton season ticketholder here…some of the points made so far were accurate in years past. Gadowsky was a strong coach and recruited players to fit his style of play. I don’t blame him at all for leaving- getting to build a program from the ground up at Penn State is an opportunity he couldn’t pass up. His replacement never got the same level of performance out of the players Gadowsky had brought in. Fogarty took over a cupboard that was pretty bare in terms of talent, and the improvement in play has been noticeable this year, even if the results haven’t shown it. It certainly helps having a veteran goalie like Phinney, whose career stats reflect the struggles of the team more than they do his shortcomings…he’s as good of a goalie as Princeton has had in the last decade.

The administrative support has been an issue in years past, particularly with the previous longtime AD who was a basketball player at Princeton, so hockey was not as high on his priority list. That is changing- the current AD is a former captain of the Princeton women's hockey team, and the current university president has been known to take in a game at Baker Rink from time to time. Fogarty has done well to build community relations and support within local youth hockey teams, such as having a different young local hockey player skate with the team before each game as an honorary captain. Even a small gesture like that was lacking in recent years.

The one area will Princeton continues to fall short is in local fan support, and I’m not sure how much that can change,even with an improved product. Your average hockey fan around here would rather go see one of the three NHL teams that are within an hour car/train ride of Princeton. Let’s use Cornell as an example- Lynah Rink is the place to be on a Friday/Saturday night in Ithaca, but when you’re so close to NYC and Philly, fair-weather hockey “fans” around Princeton are going to find something else to do.

As was said earlier, give the Tigers a couple years. Things are looking up this year for the first time in awhile, and hopefully this weekend’s results can jump start their season!
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Welcome to USCHO threads, MHP! Thanks for your observations. Good luck, Tigers, except when you play RPI. ;)
 
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makehobeyproud said:
Princeton season ticketholder here…some of the points made so far were accurate in years past. Gadowsky was a strong coach and recruited players to fit his style of play. I don’t blame him at all for leaving- getting to build a program from the ground up at Penn State is an opportunity he couldn’t pass up. His replacement never got the same level of performance out of the players Gadowsky had brought in. Fogarty took over a cupboard that was pretty bare in terms of talent, and the improvement in play has been noticeable this year, even if the results haven’t shown it. It certainly helps having a veteran goalie like Phinney, whose career stats reflect the struggles of the team more than they do his shortcomings…he’s as good of a goalie as Princeton has had in the last decade.

The administrative support has been an issue in years past, particularly with the previous longtime AD who was a basketball player at Princeton, so hockey was not as high on his priority list. That is changing- the current AD is a former captain of the Princeton women's hockey team, and the current university president has been known to take in a game at Baker Rink from time to time. Fogarty has done well to build community relations and support within local youth hockey teams, such as having a different young local hockey player skate with the team before each game as an honorary captain. Even a small gesture like that was lacking in recent years.

The one area will Princeton continues to fall short is in local fan support, and I’m not sure how much that can change,even with an improved product. Your average hockey fan around here would rather go see one of the three NHL teams that are within an hour car/train ride of Princeton. Let’s use Cornell as an example- Lynah Rink is the place to be on a Friday/Saturday night in Ithaca, but when you’re so close to NYC and Philly, fair-weather hockey “fans” around Princeton are going to find something else to do.

As was said earlier, give the Tigers a couple years. Things are looking up this year for the first time in awhile, and hopefully this weekend’s results can jump start their season!
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Princeton looked quite good and dangerous this weekend. This is certainly not an ideal team to get matched up with down the stretch and even in the playoffs.
 
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Fogarty was a great player at Colgate, he built a D3 dynasty at Adrean, and look what he's doing at Princeton. Dexter was one of Colgate's better recruiters and also a great player at Gate.
 
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As a Minnesota State fan, I was checking out Princeton threads ahead of this weekend's series. I found the title of this one interesting. When a team has swept Bemidji and Quinnipiac in the last month, I'd say the answer to What's Wrong? is Not Much.

Anyway, I guess we'll see. I was at the series 2 years ago, and ended up getting the flu that swept through the locker room and student body that weekend and led to the Saturday cancellation. Here's hoping for better health to all this year!
 
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sshablak said:
Fogarty was a great player at Colgate, he built a D3 dynasty at Adrean, and look what he's doing at Princeton. Dexter was one of Colgate's better recruiters and also a great player at Gate.
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Fogarty's first team was one he totally recruited - they were all his recruits - they were great and Adrian had a fantastic run. At Princeton, he inherited someone else's team with some v good players and obviously some not so great. By next year coaches Fogarty, Stav, Dexter will have been there 4 years and I suspect Princeton will be a much better team - maybe not Adrian-like, but getting there.
 
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I have no illusions of grandeur for this season, but this team has been fun to watch! Even being down 2-0 early in the second period last night, you get the feeling watching this team that they don't believe they are out of any game. They block shots, and they are more aggressive on the forecheck than in years past. At this point, the team is playing with house money- of their top 5 scorers, 1 is a freshman, 2 are sophomores, 2 are juniors. The future is definitely looking bright...
 
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crossjcek said:
Are Princeton's games streamed on the Ivy digital network?
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All games hosted by Ivy teams are on ILDN. Fortunately, the non-Ivy teams in the ECAC all have free streams except for Colgate (I think), so you can pretty easily watch a Princeton game this year!
 
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kdiff77 said:
All games hosted by Ivy teams are on ILDN. Fortunately, the non-Ivy teams in the ECAC all have free streams except for Union, so you can pretty easily watch a Princeton game this year!
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Fixed your post kdiff77. Colgate does have free streams provided through the Patriot League Network.
 
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hockeyplayer1015 said:
As long as Carvel is there, I'd go with the saying "objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear" or something along those lines.

I'd recommend enjoying it while it lasts, because they will be better in the next 2-3 years.
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Yeah I'll believe it when they are capable of beating ASU
 
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