Weaving the Strands: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 2.0

[Kepler]

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"Minsk ceasefire backed by forked tongue." They'd be easier to laugh at if you didn't have to respect that nation for being the unmatched world and historical leader in "trollism that matters."

Oh, they're a distant second to Israel. The stuff that comes out of the Likudnik state press is, to quote from another thread, frozen pools of excrement. But the amazing part is how they do it deadpan. The PRC's state trolling is always passive-aggressive, and the Russians' is, well, just aggressive, but Israel's is so beautifully bland it puts the others to shame.

I'm not distant enough from ours to evaluate it, but I'm sure we lead the planet in condescension. "USA: Texas writ large."

 

[XYZ]

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Oh, they're a distant second to Israel. The stuff that comes out of the Likudnik state press is, to quote from another thread, frozen pools of excrement. But the amazing part is how they do it deadpan. The PRC's state trolling is always passive-aggressive, and the Russians' is, well, just aggressive, but Israel's is so beautifully bland it puts the others to shame.

I'm not distant enough from ours to evaluate it, but I'm sure we lead the planet in condescension. "USA: Texas writ large."

No, the US isn't even close. While it has two prominent blocs that fall within a fairly narrow band of the political spectrum and each selectively chooses things to yammer about because people seem to enjoy fighting for the sake of fighting, the US does not have an official government arm aimed at hammering away with propaganda that is beyond laughable. Anyone who thinks it's similar is so off the rails biased that they need to get out more.

That said, I've admitted on numerous occasions that I have zero interest in the Middle East and perhaps even less in Israel. Until someone explains to me why it's worth the US' time and money to bother with Israel, at least. I once started a thread here to ask that very question and it was quickly outpaced by a thread on Pepsi One or some such nonsense.

Anyway, while far from an expert on the Middle East a bit of poking around tells me that the Likud isn't even on the same plane as the Russians. There's a different style to it. While the Jews are bombastic, the Russians turn it into an art form in the manner no one else does and the Israelis don't whiff it. Maybe it's a style thing I'm perhaps inclined to respect due to my past experiences and current interests, or maybe the proper context of the language and culture is tough to properly convey into proper English. Nonetheless -- it's one thing to be excessively loud in the name of political interests and it's another to practice a work of art. The Likud is in the same league as the SEIU. The Russians are Michelangelo.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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No, the US isn't even close. While it has two prominent blocs that fall within a fairly narrow band of the political spectrum and each selectively chooses things to yammer about because people seem to enjoy fighting for the sake of fighting, the US does not have an official government arm aimed at hammering away with propaganda that is beyond laughable. Anyone who thinks it's similar is so off the rails biased that they need to get out more.

That said, I've admitted on numerous occasions that I have zero interest in the Middle East and perhaps even less in Israel. Until someone explains to me why it's worth the US' time and money to bother with Israel, at least. I once started a thread here to ask that very question and it was quickly outpaced by a thread on Pepsi One or some such nonsense.

Anyway, while far from an expert on the Middle East a bit of poking around tells me that the Likud isn't even on the same plane as the Russians. There's a different style to it. While the Jews are bombastic, the Russians turn it into an art form in the manner no one else does and the Israelis don't whiff it. Maybe it's a style thing I'm perhaps inclined to respect due to my past experiences and current interests, or maybe the proper context of the language and culture is tough to properly convey into proper English. Nonetheless -- it's one thing to be excessively loud in the name of political interests and it's another to practice a work of art. The Likud is in the same league as the SEIU. The Russians are Michelangelo.

Actually, the US DOES have an arm that hammers away propaganda. It's called the Associated Press. Ever notice how every major TV station and newspaper is the same crap with different slants? You have to turn to alternative media to get real news.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Lololol

 

[XYZ]

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Actually, the US DOES have an arm that hammers away propaganda. It's called the Associated Press. Ever notice how every major TV station and newspaper is the same crap with different slants? You have to turn to alternative media to get real news.

This is why I find it much easier to just huff Glade and hallucinate my news.

 

[Kepler]

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This is why I find it much easier to just huff Glade and hallucinate my news.

It all makes sense now. I wondered where Breitbart got his stuff. It was from his stuff.

 

[Kepler]

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Actually, the US DOES have an arm that hammers away propaganda. It's called

VOA. That's it's charter. It was the original "no spin zone." I'd love to hear the VOA announcement of the Allende murder sometime. Think equal parts Bill O'Reilly and Tokyo Rose.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Ever wonder why the majority (probably around 90%) of the sources of said information (TV, newspapers, you could probably also throw in movies) are owned by six companies? Easier for the government media complex to control.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Ever wonder why the majority (probably around 90%) of the sources of said information (TV, newspapers, you could probably also throw in movies) are owned by six companies? Easier for the government media complex to control.

Yeah, but I can only think of one media outlet that actively lies and relishes that they do.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Yeah, but I can only think of one media outlet that actively lies and relishes that they do.

It's the one that is feeding these six companies their orders. It's time to wake up and smell the roses, Scooby. Your attempts to create petty conflict are only helping the New World Order to win.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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It's the one that is feeding these six companies their orders. It's time to wake up and smell the roses, Scooby. Your attempts to create petty conflict are only helping the New World Order to win.

Uh, huh. That's why my Congressman is fighting for net neutrality. Because he's a part of the New World Order.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Uh, huh. That's why my Congressman is fighting for net neutrality. Because he's a part of the New World Order.

With the government in control of the internet, they will have the power to decide who gets to put information there. I bet you anything it's part of that private 300-page document they won't share with lawmakers. Of course, your ilk believe you have to pass something to see what's in it.

 

[sagard]

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Uh, huh. That's why my Congressman is fighting for net neutrality. Because he's a part of the New World Order.

All that means is that he is siding with Google/Netflix/etc.. and their efforts to squeeze the telcos/cable providers. Net neutrality do absolutely nothing to benefit any consumers. It is simply a power play by content providers to squeeze access providers.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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With the government in control of the internet, they will have the power to decide who gets to put information there. I bet you anything it's part of that private 300-page document they won't share with lawmakers. Of course, your ilk believe you have to pass something to see what's in it.

No, that's not what Net Neutrality means. But, you keep believing the US Government is out to get you if you want.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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All that means is that he is siding with Google/Netflix/etc.. and their efforts to squeeze the telcos/cable providers. Net neutrality do absolutely nothing to benefit any consumers. It is simply a power play by content providers to squeeze access providers.

So, you prefer the unequal playing field then? Netflix was trying to buy a fast lane on Comcast' network. If the were able to do that that means that the kid streaming movies at home would get his information before any of my businesses traffic would be processed. If you think there's sides here you're wrong.

 

[Kepler]

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Flag does not realize that right now the closest there is to a globalist conspiracy is driven by multinationals. When they corrupt government, yes, government is also their tool of oppression. But government can also be our most powerful tool to protect ourselves from class enslavement. Saying that "government is the enemy" just deprives us of a tool which, when used correctly, can prevent the very abuses he wants to stop. In fact, the battle cry "government is the enemy" was invented by the plutocrats to smash that only tool that could otherwise be used to stop them.

Fire says "water is bad -- it can drown you!"

 

[Kepler]

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All that means is that he is siding with Google/Netflix/etc.. and their efforts to squeeze the telcos/cable providers. Net neutrality do absolutely nothing to benefit any consumers. It is simply a power play by content providers to squeeze access providers.

Wow. This is really, really incorrect.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Flag does not realize that right now the closest there is to a globalist conspiracy is driven by multinationals. When they corrupt government, yes, government is also their tool of oppression. But government can also be our most powerful tool to protect ourselves from class enslavement. Saying that "government is the enemy" just deprives us of a tool which, when used correctly, can prevent the very abuses he wants to stop. In fact, the battle cry "government is the enemy" was invented by the plutocrats to smash that only tool that could otherwise be used to stop them.

Fire says "water is bad -- it can drown you!"

...otherwise known as the United Nations. Yes, it is true that government can go both ways. However, when the government is given certain regulatory power, not only should one assume that it can and will be used, but it is also able to be abused. Net Neutrality is, in fact, expanding the power of government to regulate internet. This means that it will be used, taxed, and abused. Expect this "utility" to be controlled by a trust while shutting out smaller independent ISPs. We're seeing it in Florida with the prosecution of people having their own solar panels or collecting rainwater. Tiny houses are also being attacked thanks to zoning ordinances. As much as I can understand rural access, having grown up in the middle of nowhere, every granting of power has unintended consequences.

 

[unofan]

With the government in control of the internet, they will have the power to decide who gets to put information there. I bet you anything it's part of that private 300-page document they won't share with lawmakers. Of course, your ilk believe you have to pass something to see what's in it.

Well, at least now I know your Fark handle. That argument is taken almost verbatim from a post over there, complete with the lie about 300 pages of regulations.

 

[GrinCDXX]

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Netflix was trying to buy a fast lane on Comcast' network.

Where are you getting this? Are you referring to the paid peering agreements that many ISP's (Comcast included) have forced Netflix into signing?