WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

[John J. MacInnes]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

I have video evidence of the Tech Pep Band playing at Lakeview Arena in 1982. Look above the far left corner at about 0:18 and you'll see them. I have yet to find evidence in subsequent years.

[video]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IGGo01A1y6h4ESD-OB8mT5AyQgQauoQE[/video]

 

[MTUHuskies]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

Not my favourite sweaters, but I loved those long Cooperall shells.

 

[JohnsonsJerseys]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

I have video evidence of the Tech Pep Band playing at Lakeview Arena in 1982.

I could watch vintage footage like this all day. Great stuff and soooo helpful for research purposes. Thanks for posting.
Ryan

 

[MTUHuskies]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

I could watch vintage footage like this all day. Great stuff and soooo helpful for research purposes. Thanks for posting.
Ryan

I agree, but I've already wasted a lot of work time this week getting distracted by hockey. If JJM keeps these videos coming I might get fired!

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[JohnsonsJerseys]

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I've already wasted a lot of time this week getting distracted by work. If JJM keeps these videos coming I might get fired and have more time to watch vintage hockey videos!
Ryan

 

[aparch]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

I'd like to state that I got a phone call from NMU regarding the ticket sales. It was a good chat, as I was able to learn the details of why things changed instead of my assumptions, and I was able to share the frustration felt on the "other end" of those changes.

There was no malicious intent to screw people over. There was no premeditated lying.

There were lots of honest mistakes made that were realized too late into the process. Each "Oh Sh**" moment was too late to slow the process. The unique-ness of hosting the biggest rival for the biggest game, while planned for, still had unexpected details that no one had foresaw.

Is there any single plan that can make everyone happy? No, but NMU has taken a lot of lumps for this and is looking into working to correct this for themselves and future hosts around the league. Ideas floated on the forum on how to space out ticket availability are being looked into moving forward.

Obviously this doesn't fix what happened Monday, but the University, specifically those who made the decision overnight, have started reaching out to those affected.

It's much more than I was expecting to hear; I now feel the combination of honest errors just made things go from bad to exhaustively frustrating way faster than it ever should have.

 

[MTUHuskies]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

I'd like to state that I got a phone call from NMU regarding the ticket sales. It was a good chat, as I was able to learn the details of why things changed instead of my assumptions, and I was able to share the frustration felt on the "other end" of those changes.

There was no malicious intent to screw people over. There was no premeditated lying.

There were lots of honest mistakes made that were realized too late into the process. Each "Oh Sh**" moment was too late to slow the process. The unique-ness of hosting the biggest rival for the biggest game, while planned for, still had unexpected details that no one had foresaw.

Is there any single plan that can make everyone happy? No, but NMU has taken a lot of lumps for this and is looking into working to correct this for themselves and future hosts around the league. Ideas floated on the forum on how to space out ticket availability are being looked into moving forward.

Obviously this doesn't fix what happened Monday, but the University, specifically those who made the decision overnight, have started reaching out to those affected.

It's much more than I was expecting to hear; I now feel the combination of honest errors just made things go from bad to exhaustively frustrating way faster than it ever should have.

Good to hear. Sounds like they are at least owning up to the errors that were made. Good on them.

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[stuckinwi]

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Good to hear. Sounds like they are at least owning up to the errors that were made. Good on them.

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Agreed. And none of us have asked to fix this this year. It's done and dusted.

Let's just make sure it happens better in the future.

 

[Hatch_man]

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Aparch, I'm glad they reached out to you for damage control, but I'm curious about a couple things that maybe you could shed some light on.

First: why did they shut down online and/or phone sales?? I believe that was the number one issue people were frustrated with.

Two: why not have in person sales a day later?? This is the part that "appears" malicious by nmu... Anyone can see that any die-hard tech fan that was in Mankato had zero chance to get from Mankato to Marquette to get in line.

Third: Listening to our coaches show on Tuesday, he was very candid on how the tech AD had to fight with nmu to even get the tickets the wcha mandates we get and the allowance of the pep band which is also allowed by the wcha.

I'm curious if you have any insight to those specific issues after talking to nmu.

 

[Qball319]

The rule regarding visiting bands at regular season games goes back much farther than 2003. I started at Tech in 1992 and already at that time the band could not perform at road games. It was by league rule at that time as well because plenty of band members traveled on their own dime to road games but could not bring instruments into the arena. We were allowed to play at neutral site conference games such as the Final Five and the school paid our way. Although during my time, the band only played at the Final Five when Tech was playing.

I know the ban on Tech's band at NMU didn't apply to ALL sports as we played at the Yooper dome during my time, and even did a half-time show one year. Yeah astro-turf! Throw your drumsticks at the ground and see how high they bounce. At first we tried throwing flute players into the turf to see how high they would bounce but the director put a stop to that so then we resorted to just throwing drum sticks. Drummers are easily amused...

Ryan

The 2003 came only from when we tried to get permission to visit others. I had no idea how long that was in place.

Yes, drummers are easily amused.

 

[aparch]

Aparch, I'm glad they reached out to you for damage control, but I'm curious about a couple things that maybe you could shed some light on.

First: why did they shut down online and/or phone sales?? I believe that was the number one issue people were frustrated with.

Two: why not have in person sales a day later?? This is the part that "appears" malicious by nmu... Anyone can see that any die-hard tech fan that was in Mankato had zero chance to get from Mankato to Marquette to get in line.

Third: Listening to our coaches show on Tuesday, he was very candid on how the tech AD had to fight with nmu to even get the tickets the wcha mandates we get and the allowance of the pep band which is also allowed by the wcha.

I'm curious if you have any insight to those specific issues after talking to nmu.

Number one was my big issue. When the server took a dump from demand before they were able to get the game loaded, they wanted to make sure local fans got the chance for tickets. That was one point where the University was very apologetic in not getting the word out better. The backlash emphasised just how wide the area is NMU fans and alumni come in from or have penciled in this trip all year if it happens. They realized how much this hurt and that they needed to communicate this better after the fact.

Had they Tweeted a photo of Wildcat Willy taking his laptop to the help desk saying they were 'sorry the online sales weren't working, were going to plan B' overnight, it might not have made me feel better immediately that morning but it might have lessened the blow by admitting things changed. The silence added to the frustration.

Two: It wasn't mentioned specifically, but it seemed to fall into the category from point one: a hurried decision that lead to unintended consequences.

Three: I didn't pry on this one, but it was briefly mentioned to me that they did get 150 tickets, plus 40 for the band per WCHA, plus player tickets so ~200-ish tickets?

Obviously the call was geared more toward my concerns as an Alumnus, so it may not be the answer you're looking for on the Tech side of things.

 

[Huskiefan906]

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Aparch, I would hope Northern would make amends to get the faithful in the building, a spare seat in the press box, University box, something- did they offer anything to the alumni. From our Chat board, good news that some of our loyal fan base have tickets available and in hand. I will be in front of the tv, hoping to repeat the excitement felt when Hanna ended it last year. Go Huskies.

 

[manurespreader]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

Aparch, I would hope Northern would make amends to get the faithful in the building, a spare seat in the press box, University box, something- did they offer anything to the alumni. From our Chat board, good news that some of our loyal fan base have tickets available and in hand. I will be in front of the tv, hoping to repeat the excitement felt when Hanna ended it last year. Go Huskies.

I bet that some tickets, which were bought up on the first day, are now falling in price. Might be some good ones, especially tomorrow.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I bet that some tickets, which were bought up on the first day, are now falling in price. Might be some good ones, especially tomorrow.

i have at least 2 friends in the marquette area and neither has heard much of available tickets. I was fortunate to get one through MTU.

 

[devildog]

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The rule regarding visiting bands at regular season games goes back much farther than 2003. I started at Tech in 1992 and already at that time the band could not perform at road games. It was by league rule at that time as well because plenty of band members traveled on their own dime to road games but could not bring instruments into the arena. We were allowed to play at neutral site conference games such as the Final Five and the school paid our way. Although during my time, the band only played at the Final Five when Tech was playing.

I know the ban on Tech's band at NMU didn't apply to ALL sports as we played at the Yooper dome during my time, and even did a half-time show one year. Yeah astro-turf! Throw your drumsticks at the ground and see how high they bounce. At first we tried throwing flute players into the turf to see how high they would bounce but the director put a stop to that so then we resorted to just throwing drum sticks. Drummers are easily amused...

Ryan

I went to Northern from 84-88. All I Know is the Tech band never missed a game at Lakeview during those years. I hated them, loud and obnoxious, which I am sure was the intent, thus, the ban was well received on my end.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: WCHA Season Thread 2017-18: In Which We Try For Two Bids

I went to Northern from 84-88. All I Know is the Tech band never missed a game at Lakeview during those years. I hated them, loud and obnoxious, which I am sure was the intent, thus, the ban was well received on my end.

Banning opponents because your own band/fans aren't loud enough just screams of cowardice.

 

[rustedblades]

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My only hope is that BEC and WCHATV have their act together this weekend and can provide a good product outside of the TV6 broadcast area.

I'm not sure how you ensure that but all parties should make sure they do everything in their power to make sure there is enough bandwith, all equipment is in tip top shape, etc.

This is a huge deal for the WCHA; get it right please!!!

 

[RaceBoarder]

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My only hope is that BEC and WCHATV have their act together this weekend and can provide a good product outside of the TV6 broadcast area.

I'm not sure how you ensure that but all parties should make sure they do everything in their power to make sure there is enough bandwith, all equipment is in tip top shape, etc.

This is a huge deal for the WCHA; get it right please!!!

They will be using the FOX-UP feed for the webstream, per Bill Robertson at today's Wildcat Blue Line luncheon...

 

[gfmorris]

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I work in Operations, and while I can see the kinds of mistakes that were made here, it's ... not good. Of course, the only way that you get good at Operations is by being bad at Operations.

GFM <— just thankful that he hasn't gotten an astronaut killed yet...

 

[davyd83]

My only hope is that BEC and WCHATV have their act together this weekend and can provide a good product outside of the TV6 broadcast area.

I'm not sure how you ensure that but all parties should make sure they do everything in their power to make sure there is enough bandwith, all equipment is in tip top shape, etc.

This is a huge deal for the WCHA; get it right please!!!

The crew at the BEC has not been the problem. It’s all come from Stretch Internet.