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WCHA + AHA + ASU = BETTER (for all)

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DrunkTrainPolka

GO TECH GOLD!
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here is an idea...

i am playing the agitator. but i do feel the WCHA and AHA need to shake things up to not only keep things from getting boring but also make the conferences better (as is, its no good).

between the WCHA, the AHA, and ASU you have a total of 22 teams.

have AHA give up AF... so they can go down from 11 to 10 teams making scheduling and traveling much easier and cheaper - all AHA teams would be really close to each other. AF and army can still have their bouts in the likes of the governors cup that UAF and UAA fight for every year, but in a NC way. call it the military cup.

the AHA has now 10 teams, they are set. now have ASU and AF join the WCHA making it 12.

travel in the WCHA is a big issue so create three mini-regions;

west - UAF/UAA/AF/ASU
central - MNSU/BSU/MTU/NMU
east - LSSU/FSU/BGSU/UAH

play most of your games within your region and make sure to schedule games with the other two with a rotation every year. keep things simple opening up more (then now) NC games with teams around you. as an example west could play DU and CC, central can play UofMN and SCSU, and east can play MSU and MIAMI.

top two from each region moves on, together with two wild cards based on record.

maybe seed the eight teams based on the PWR? could make it exciting for it involves the NC record.

reduce travel, same money, save time, and play more NC games.

take a d*** chance, do it. DO IT!

this here is interesting and relevant;

https://uahhockey.com/blog/2018/06/20/widespread-conference-schedule-exemption/

GO TECH GOLD!
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DrunkTrainPolka said:
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here is an idea...

i am playing the agitator. but i do feel the WCHA and AHA need to shake things up to not only keep things from getting boring but also make the conferences better (as is, its no good).

between the WCHA, the AHA, and ASU you have a total of 22 teams.

have AHA give up AF... so they can go down from 11 to 10 teams making scheduling and traveling much easier and cheaper - all AHA teams would be really close to each other. AF and army can still have their bouts in the likes of the governors cup that UAF and UAA fight for every year, but in a NC way. call it the military cup.

the AHA has now 10 teams, they are set. now have ASU and AF join the WCHA making it 12.

travel in the WCHA is a big issue so create three mini-regions;

west - UAF/UAA/AF/ASU
central - MNSU/BSU/MTU/NMU
east - LSSU/FSU/BGSU/UAH

play most of your games within your region and make sure to schedule games with the other two with a rotation every year. keep things simple opening up more (then now) NC games with teams around you. as an example west could play DU and CC, central can play UofMN and SCSU, and east can play MSU and MIAMI.

top two from each region moves on, together with two wild cards based on record.

maybe seed the eight teams based on the PWR? could make it exciting for it involves the NC record.

reduce travel, same money, save time, and play more NC games.

take a d*** chance, do it. DO IT!

this here is interesting and relevant;

https://uahhockey.com/blog/2018/06/20/widespread-conference-schedule-exemption/

GO TECH GOLD!
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DTP: I like this scenario even better than your two regions within the current WCHA.

With three regions, you could play the 3 teams in your region home and away for 12 games. Home series against 2 teams from each other region for 8 more games. Road series against the other 2 teams in each of the other regions gives you a full 28 game league schedule. Next year travel to the schools you hosted this year and vice versa.

You could use a PWR using only league games for post season seeding.

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Of course you are ignoring the fact that schools and conferences do what they think is best for them. In the case of Air Force have they given any indication they want to leave Atlantic Hockey and join the WCHA? As for Atlantic Hockey, if I recall correctly, someone posted their commissioner said they were actively pursuing a new member.

Sean
 
joecct said:
Don't forget Liberty and Navy into AHA!!
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Why doesn’t anyone ever mention Delaware when it comes to Atlantic Hockey expansion? Two rinks on campus with their main one holding over 2,000 fans. Location is closer than Navy. Strong history with their ACHA program. Seems like a no brained to me. Wonder if anyone has ever reached out.
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Of course you are ignoring the fact that schools and conferences do what they think is best for them. In the case of Air Force have they given any indication they want to leave Atlantic Hockey and join the WCHA? As for Atlantic Hockey, if I recall correctly, someone posted their commissioner said they were actively pursuing a new member.

Sean
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for sure... but AF does not need to be in a bad or unhappy situation to get, to want to get, into a better one. the proposal is just an idea... and sometimes, these ideas get people thinking - including teams and/or conferences. and yes, i heard gossip in regard to AHA pursuing a 12th team... if its a current D-I team, UAH would be my guess.

GO TECH GOLD!
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Sean Pickett said:
Of course you are ignoring the fact that schools and conferences do what they think is best for them. In the case of Air Force have they given any indication they want to leave Atlantic Hockey and join the WCHA? As for Atlantic Hockey, if I recall correctly, someone posted their commissioner said they were actively pursuing a new member.

Sean
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It has nothing to do with what the schools and conferences think what's best for them. It's all about the fans and where and who we want to see our favourite teams play.

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Re: WCHA + AHA + ASU = BETTER (for all)

I would also expect AF to provide transportation for all WCHA teams as part of this deal. Not going to be a lot of frills, but cheap flights.

LINK: <a href="http://www.diehardsport.com/hockey/air-force-hockey-team-rides-c-17-hockey-game/">WCHA Transportation Plan</a>
 
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Personally I’d enjoy some kind of WCHA-AHA scheduling alliance. Beats getting our collective **** pushed in by the NCHC every year.
 
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Squarebanks said:
Personally I’d enjoy some kind of WCHA-AHA scheduling alliance. Beats getting our collective **** pushed in by the NCHC every year.
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there is something to this...

while winning against 'stronger' teams (e.g., NACHO) is great for PWR, winning still is the most important thing no matter the level of competition.

meaning that if you are going to most likely lose, your best bet is to play against teams of your caliber.

you don't 'get points' for losing to any one... no matter how good the team that beats you is!

just need to find a way to work into the equation that playing better teams, will make you better.

hmm... be a fun project to run some kind of monte carlo simulation on this...

...someone has probably done it.

GO TECH GOLD!
 
DrunkTrainPolka said:
there is something to this...

while winning against 'stronger' teams (e.g., NACHO) is great for PWR, winning still is the most important thing no matter the level of competition.

meaning that if you are going to most likely lose, your best bet is to play against teams of your caliber.

you don't 'get points' for losing to any one... no matter how good the team that beats you is!

just need to find a way to work into the equation that playing better teams, will make you better.

hmm... be a fun project to run some kind of monte carlo simulation on this...

...someone has probably done it.

GO TECH GOLD!
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Penn State loads up with AH schools, and it got them to one NCAA tournament and close to another
 
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Squarebanks said:
Personally I’d enjoy some kind of WCHA-AHA scheduling alliance. Beats getting our collective **** pushed in by the NCHC every year.
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Personally I'd enjoy seeing WCHA schedule and beat a lot of Nacho and B1G teams.

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There was a proposal floated some years ago at the coaches convention to take the WCHA/CCHA “leftovers” and AHA and form 3 7 team conferences, play each team in your conference 4x for 24 and a member of each other conference 2x. It was something along the line of
UAA, Bemidji, Mankato, Tech, NMU, LSSU & Ferris in one, UAF, BG, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst, Canisius, Niagara, UAH in another and RIT, AI, Bentley, Sacred Heart, Holy Cross, Army and Air Force in the third. Not exactly those groups, but very similar. It made far too much sense to get any real traction outside the coaches.
 
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davyd83 said:
There was a proposal floated some years ago at the coaches convention to take the WCHA/CCHA “leftovers” and AHA and form 3 7 team conferences, play each team in your conference 4x for 24 and a member of each other conference 2x. It was something along the line of
UAA, Bemidji, Mankato, Tech, NMU, LSSU & Ferris in one, UAF, BG, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst, Canisius, Niagara, UAH in another and RIT, AI, Bentley, Sacred Heart, Holy Cross, Army and Air Force in the third. Not exactly those groups, but very similar. It made far too much sense to get any real traction outside the coaches.
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I could get on board with that.

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davyd83 said:
There was a proposal floated some years ago at the coaches convention to take the WCHA/CCHA “leftovers” and AHA and form 3 7 team conferences, play each team in your conference 4x for 24 and a member of each other conference 2x. It was something along the line of
UAA, Bemidji, Mankato, Tech, NMU, LSSU & Ferris in one, UAF, BG, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst, Canisius, Niagara, UAH in another and RIT, AI, Bentley, Sacred Heart, Holy Cross, Army and Air Force in the third. Not exactly those groups, but very similar. It made far too much sense to get any real traction outside the coaches.
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I think similar ideas were floated, glad to hear it was actually talked about.

The WCHA, CCHA, and ECHA. What could have been.
 
DrunkTrainPolka said:
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west - UAF/UAA/AF/ASU
central - MNSU/BSU/MTU/NMU
east - LSSU/FSU/BGSU/UAH

play most of your games within your region and make sure to schedule games with the other two with a rotation every year. keep things simple opening up more (then now) NC games with teams around you. as an example west could play DU and CC, central can play UofMN and SCSU, and east can play MSU and MIAMI.
GO TECH GOLD!
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What about tUMD, you dick? Don’t you remember when we used to play 2 series/year in WCHA? What are we, chopped liver?
 
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